The Black Tot Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I got to try a pour of this at a bar. Then I bought a bottle. I thought it had a really great nose. A pleasant slow sipper. And I usually don't like Barton. If Barton could do this regularly for $40 I'd be up for that. I can see what you mean about the funky finish Clueby - that is a personal taste thing, I considered it "unique". I hope they break ground on the JR distillery soon, before the boom is over! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Loblaw Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Final Answer is I'm not going to pick up the ones I found. I passed on the initial release (bought for a friend) and was just circling back to see if anyone's opinion had changed. I am also not much a fan of the Barton Line. Full Proof in particular has way too much banana. I did enjoy the Sweet Wheat at $35 or whatever it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Tot Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 58 minutes ago, Bob_Loblaw said: I am also not much a fan of the Barton Line. For some reason they seem to sell all their very best stuff to independent bottlers, and save the worst for themselves. I guess the IBs are paying decent bucks for the privilege, but I'd really prefer to have an option to buy direct from the producer without a middle man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcpfratn Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 For some reason they seem to sell all their very best stuff to independent bottlers, and save the worst for themselves. I guess the IBs are paying decent bucks for the privilege, but I'd really prefer to have an option to buy direct from the producer without a middle man.I don’t know if agree 100% with that. I’ve had quite a few private selection Single Barrels of 1792 Small Batch and Full Proof that have been fantastic! So, I think they do sell some of their best stuff through their own brands, just maybe not always with the basic store shelf stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinjoe Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 hour ago, The Black Tot said: For some reason they seem to sell all their very best stuff to independent bottlers, and save the worst for themselves. I’m not sure I agree, here. I’m trying to think of very good sourced IB offerings from Barton that would represent their “very best”, and in contrast, that Barton releases their worst? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Tot Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I'm thinking Kentucky Owl Rye for a start. They had rye like that in the warehouses, and they don't even sell a rye! I'd rather have Cream Of Kentucky than anything I've tasted out of Barton's official releases. Guess I've stepped on some Barton lovers' toes. My apologies guys. I've had one great pick of Barton before. And I like Sweet Wheat. So far everything else has left me cold. Call me crazy but if you have to do a barrel pick to like the product, that's kind of what I'm talking about. One man's trash is another man's treasure and all I'm saying is most of the Barton I've tasted hasn't clicked with my palate. You and I ought to know that Joe based on your colorful rum reviewing. I'll keep trying with Barton. I want to love them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbrink Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 hour ago, The Black Tot said: I'm thinking Kentucky Owl Rye for a start. They had rye like that in the warehouses, and they don't even sell a rye! I'd rather have Cream Of Kentucky than anything I've tasted out of Barton's official releases. Guess I've stepped on some Barton lovers' toes. My apologies guys. I've had one great pick of Barton before. And I like Sweet Wheat. So far everything else has left me cold. Call me crazy but if you have to do a barrel pick to like the product, that's kind of what I'm talking about. One man's trash is another man's treasure and all I'm saying is most of the Barton I've tasted hasn't clicked with my palate. You and I ought to know that Joe based on your colorful rum reviewing. I'll keep trying with Barton. I want to love them. Pretty sure they are bottling Barton Rye as CEHT Rye, not that I don't prefer KO Rye 1 to it even with price factored in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulO Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Black Tot, have you ever tried Very Old Barton B.I.B.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Tot Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Just now, PaulO said: Black Tot, have you ever tried Very Old Barton B.I.B.? I think I've tried the 6yr, it was a long time ago. I'll totally have some BIB the next time I'm in Kentucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Tot Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 hour ago, kevinbrink said: Pretty sure they are bottling Barton Rye as CEHT Rye, not that I don't prefer KO Rye 1 to it even with price factored in. Ahhh, now that makes some more sense. If CEHT is Barton distilled, then they're not getting the reputation they deserve for at least THAT product. I also preferred the owl (this once! haha) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulO Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, The Black Tot said: I think I've tried the 6yr, it was a long time ago. I'll totally have some BIB the next time I'm in Kentucky. I'm a big fan of VOB BIB, not so much of the RR 1792 I've tried several times over the years. Finally, just decided I like VOB better. I have heard they are two different mash bills. Relatively recently, Barton decided to drop the bonded designation. Current release is 100 proof "crafted". I have not tried the "crafted" yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinjoe Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 11 hours ago, The Black Tot said: I'm thinking Kentucky Owl Rye for a start. They had rye like that in the warehouses, and they don't even sell a rye! Guess I've stepped on some Barton lovers' toes. My apologies guys. Barton offered Fleischmann’s Rye for years, before changing over to a “Rye Mash Whiskey. I think they may still offer that. Of course, distribution was limited to like 5 neighborhoods in NE Wisconsin... And, why on earth would you feel you stepped on any toes, and that what you said warranted an apology from you?!?! As your friends, we were just stepping forward to help you back on to the path of correct thinking, and keep you from further embarrassment with your obviously incorrect opinion. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Tot Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 hour ago, smokinjoe said: And, why on earth would you feel you stepped on any toes, and that what you said warranted an apology from you?!?! As your friends, we were just stepping forward to help you back on to the path of correct thinking, and keep you from further embarrassment with your obviously incorrect opinion. So much gratitude right now...I'm all verklemped At the very least you have motivated me to give Barton a more serious chance. Everyone who reads this, has some good Barton, and meets me - pour me the glass that sets me on the right path. Barton, if you're reading this - if you're making rye like Kentucky Owl (and even CEHT), make more of THAT, and release it somewhere. Also you need to distill about ten times the amount of Sweet Wheat. Termites have had more great Barton than me - and it's not for lack of trying! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinjoe Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Black Tot said: So much gratitude right now...I'm all verklemped Eh, don’t mention it. It’s what I do. I’m a giver. Now, Jeff...is just a bully. Edited July 9, 2019 by smokinjoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcpfratn Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Eh, don’t mention it. It’s what I do. I’m a giver. Now, Jeff...is just a bully. [emoji3] LOL! [emoji23]And Joe is just full of it...not sure what “it” is, but I think everyone that knows Joe understands what he’s full of! [emoji3][emoji850][emoji1634] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcpfratn Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 So much gratitude right now...I'm all verklemped [emoji4] At the very least you have motivated me to give Barton a more serious chance. Everyone who reads this, has some good Barton, and meets me - pour me the glass that sets me on the right path. Barton, if you're reading this - if you're making rye like Kentucky Owl (and even CEHT), make more of THAT, and release it somewhere. Also you need to distill about ten times the amount of Sweet Wheat. Termites have had more great Barton than me - and it's not for lack of trying!Paul, If you can ever find time in your busy schedule to make it back to Bardstown in April, I’ll be more than happy to pour you some good 1792 (Barton) to try and set you on the right path! [emoji3][emoji12] 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flahute Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 hours ago, lcpfratn said: Paul, If you can ever find time in your busy schedule to make it back to Bardstown in April, I’ll be more than happy to pour you some good 1792 (Barton) to try and set you on the right path! I'm targeting next year for a return so I think Paul needs to do the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnbowljoe Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 hours ago, flahute said: I'm targeting next year for a return so I think Paul needs to do the same. Promises, promises???? But seriously... it would be nice to see you again. How many years has it been now? Biba! Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnbowljoe Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 9 hours ago, smokinjoe said: Barton offered Fleischmann’s Rye for years, before changing over to a “Rye Mash Whiskey. I think they may still offer that. Of course, distribution was limited to like 5 neighborhoods in NE Wisconsin... I don't know for sure, but I believe Fleischmann's Rye is now "blended". Also and FWIW, I've actually found Fleischmann's Rye somewhat recently, at a couple of places outside of its normally small central Wisconsin area triangle of distribution. WTF? Biba! Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flahute Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 hour ago, fishnbowljoe said: Promises, promises???? But seriously... it would be nice to see you again. How many years has it been now? Biba! Joe LOL! It's been two years maybe three? The difference between targeting next year versus previous years is that I'm putting a priority on this over my group's spring barrel pick. I've done so many barrel picks at this point and will do many more. It's time to hang out with the SB family again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Tot Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, flahute said: I'm targeting next year for a return so I think Paul needs to do the same. These days I'm more targetED than targetING. The high seas have me by the throat. But I do need to get back to the gazebo. If I'm on land, I'm there. Edit: To put it in perspective, I missed this year because I'd been on a boat for two weeks already before the sampler... ...I'm still typing from that boat right now. Edited July 10, 2019 by The Black Tot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnbowljoe Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, flahute said: LOL! It's been two years maybe three? The difference between targeting next year versus previous years is that I'm putting a priority on this over my group's spring barrel pick. I've done so many barrel picks at this point and will do many more. It's time to hang out with the SB family again. And that’s what this place is all about. As others have said, SB isn’t just about bourbon. It’s about friends and yes, family. Can’t wait til next spring. Bib! Joe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flahute Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 4 hours ago, fishnbowljoe said: And that’s what this place is all about. As others have said, SB isn’t just about bourbon. It’s about friends and yes, family. Can’t wait til next spring. Bib! Joe I attended my first ever sampler as a relative newbie and you all made me feel enormously welcome as if I was a veteran. That's how SB rolls. Can't wait to come back and see you all again. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako254 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 On 12/26/2018 at 4:03 AM, The Black Tot said: 25oz/1.5oz = 16 x $20 = $300 a bottle plus a sip left over for themselves. Generous folk. Quite an "opportunity". For someone, at least. The mark up on beer is higher but I get your over all point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Tot Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Mako254 said: The mark up on beer is higher but I get your over all point. Not at the beer store it isn't. This was at a liquor store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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