0895 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) Joe, it may have come out wrong. I meant to imply that there are a lot of bourbon boomers (a pun on the thread title) around (people newly into bourbon because it’s the In thing), many of whom will probably disappear when the bourbon boom fades, only to chase the next new thing. Anyway, it was funny in my head Edited July 21, 2022 by 0895 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.B. Babington Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 EC18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnbowljoe Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 1 hour ago, 0895 said: Joe, it may have come out wrong. I meant to imply that there are a lot of bourbon boomers (a pun on the thread title) around (people newly into bourbon because it’s the In thing), many of whom will probably disappear when the bourbon boom fades, only to chase the next new thing. Anyway, it was funny in my head It didn’t come out wrong Eric. The devil () on my left shoulder won out over the angel () on my right shoulder. Thus I was compelled to give you a ration of . Dayum! Am I starting to sound like @GeeTen? Biba! Joe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulO Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 When the boom ends and everything goes back to how it was before, my go to will be: HH 6 year BIB, Old Fitz BIB, VSOF 12, EC 12, OWA 7 year, W 12, Centennial, ETL 107, WT 12, and many others. All at pre boom prices too, just sitting on the shelf. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnbowljoe Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, PaulO said: When the boom ends and everything goes back to how it was before, my go to will be: HH 6 year BIB, Old Fitz BIB, VSOF 12, EC 12, OWA 7 year, W 12, Centennial, ETL 107, WT 12, and many others. All at pre boom prices too, just sitting on the shelf. Biba! Joe 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0895 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 On 7/21/2022 at 4:06 PM, PaulO said: When the boom ends and everything goes back to how it was before, my go to will be: HH 6 year BIB, Old Fitz BIB, VSOF 12, EC 12, OWA 7 year, W 12, Centennial, ETL 107, WT 12, and many others. All at pre boom prices too, just sitting on the shelf. You had me at EC12. I miss this so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Ooh, EC12. I'm changing my vote to this. In fact, think I'll have a pour right now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamMatt Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 About a year ago I stumbled on little liquor store with 3 old bottles of EC 12-yr Small Batch mixed in with the current stuff. They came home with me. First taste was like drinking current EC SB with a Werther's caramel in my mouth. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBarnes33 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Not sure if you guys are paying much attention to the commodities to make the stuff. Gonna be a massive shortage of grains and corn just an fyi. Prices could easily double and triple from here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remocap Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Been watching this for years and absorbing information. 2012 was a horrible drought and that’s part of the problem with aged bourbon. We are farmers in southern Indiana that supply Beam with close to 300k bushels of corn every year. This year isn’t close to as bad as then so far. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnbowljoe Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 38 minutes ago, JBarnes33 said: Not sure if you guys are paying much attention to the commodities to make the stuff. Gonna be a massive shortage of grains and corn just an fyi. Prices could easily double and triple from here. Maybe. Many distilleries have been getting their grains from the same domestic sources year after year. They probably have long term contracts in place. Grain shortages from overseas are probably not much to worry about right now. In the coming years??? A bigger problem might be the continuing crazy weather. In the past, flooding and drought, amongst other things have impacted the crops here. Biba! Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remocap Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Also grew up with the good stuff on eye level on the shelf. Shouldn’t be a shorted of BTAC/ Buffalo trace 70 miles away! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnbowljoe Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Remocap said: Been watching this for years and absorbing information. 2012 was a horrible drought and that’s part of the problem with aged bourbon. We are farmers in southern Indiana that supply Beam with close to 300k bushels of corn every year. This year isn’t close to as bad as then so far. Speak of the proverbial devil. Nice timing. I just posted about distilleries having on going contracts with domestic grain producers. Thanks. Biba! Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FasterHorses Posted July 25, 2022 Author Share Posted July 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, fishnbowljoe said: Maybe. Many distilleries have been getting their grains from the same domestic sources year after year. They probably have long term contracts in place. Grain shortages from overseas are probably not much to worry about right now. In the coming years??? A bigger problem might be the continuing crazy weather. In the past, flooding and drought, amongst other things have impacted the crops here. Biba! Joe Doesnt BT grow their own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remocap Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Also a Weller fan from years back. Had to get my sons living in Texas to mule back my local favorites. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remocap Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, FasterHorses said: Doesnt BT grow their own? Makers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnbowljoe Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 minute ago, FasterHorses said: Doesnt BT grow their own? Some of it for sure. I’m not sure how many acres of “the farm” is being used for corn or other crops. I will say that I think that thirty warehouses probably takes up a lot of the ≈300 acres. Biba! Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remocap Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Until a few years ago, most of the corn for bourbon came from southern Indiana. Prices went up and the horse pastures turned into corn fields. Kentucky Proud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remocap Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Remocap said: Until a few years ago, most of the corn for bourbon came from southern Indiana. Prices went up and the horse pastures turned into corn fields. Kentucky Proud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnbowljoe Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Remocap said: Makers Hmmmmmm. For their corn or red winter wheat? Biba! Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remocap Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Most of Makers wheat is grown around their facility by one fam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnbowljoe Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Remocap said: Most of Makers wheat is grown around their facility by one fam Okay. Then it must be the corn they get from Indiana. Or at least they used to. You mentioned you supplied Beam with corn. Does that include MM since they are owned by Beam Suntory? Not being a jerk. I honestly would like to know. Biba! Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camduncan Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 On 7/21/2022 at 6:44 AM, fishnbowljoe said: I’ll probably keep on doing what I’m doing now. Enjoy mid-shelters, and hope to fill in here in there with something special. Biba! Joe Couldn't agree more Joe... though the difference in our Australian market to your US market means what I consider mid-shelf would be very different to you... or it may be the same, with my prices significantly inflated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnbowljoe Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, camduncan said: Couldn't agree more Joe... though the difference in our Australian market to your US market means what I consider mid-shelf would be very different to you... or it may be the same, with my prices significantly inflated Cam! Long time no see. How have you been? Biba! Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remocap Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 All of our corn goes to the Boston and Clermont facilities of Jim Beam. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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