What bottle did you open today? - 2024

[mbroo5880i]

1 hour ago, 0895 said:

I find this to be a nice step up from WSR.

 

 

I have a friend who is an orthodox Jew who tells me this really isn't Kosher.  If I could find a bottle and the price was reasonable, I would buy it and offer it to him first to see if he still feels that way.  If not, then it would be his.  If so, then, I guess I would have to drink it.  

 

He tells me several of the "kosher" delis in the midwest are not really kosher.  He is a solid dude and is very on point so I have to believe him.  

 

Is the mashbill the same as Wellers?

Edited July 13, 2024 by mbroo5880i

[smokinjoe]

32 minutes ago, mbroo5880i said:

 

I have a friend who is an orthodox Jew who tells me this really isn't Kosher.  If I could find a bottle and the price was reasonable, I would buy it and offer it to him first to see if he still feels that way.  If not, then it would be his.  If so, then, I guess I would have to drink it.  

 

He tells me several of the "kosher" delis in the midwest are not really kosher.  He is a solid dude and is very on point so I have to believe him.  

 

Is the mashbill the same as Wellers?

What explanation does he give as to why it’s not Kosher?

[0895]

44 minutes ago, mbroo5880i said:

 

Is the mashbill the same as Wellers?

Yes ?

Maybe ?

 

I’m not drinking it for any religious reasons.  It’s just good stuff.

Kind of tastes like a mixture of Weller and ETL to be honest.

 

Edited July 13, 2024 by 0895

[Kepler]

I'm no Weller Whore but I haven't heard anything about BT adding a second wheat bourbon mashbill so I have to assume the mashbill itself is the same as Weller.  But what do I know.

[markandrex]

MMCS 23-02 into the decanter

[Kepler]

On 7/18/2024 at 5:26 PM, markandrex said:

MMCS 23-02 into the decanter

 

That's a very nice looking decanter.

[Kepler]

Looking forward to trying this one.

 

[MM818]

44 minutes ago, Kepler said:

Looking forward to trying this one.

 

 Curious to hear your thoughts. That’s double the time in barrel than their excellent single barrels. 

[Kepler]

2 minutes ago, MM818 said:

 Curious to hear your thoughts. That’s double the time in barrel than their excellent single barrels. 

 

I always like to visit a new bottle a couple of times before giving very much conclusive feedback to others ... in case they are looking to spend their money on whether to make the purchase or not.

 

Having said that, here are my "first pour" impressions on this bottle.  It's very oak influenced right up front on the palate.  The wood influence hits you like a freight train right off the bat.  Maybe too much for my ideal bourbon preference.  But on the other hand, the oak does not corrupt the finish like most "over oaked" bourbons do, that turn me away from them.  This bourbon is NOT over oaked.  There is zero drying tannin finish, so I'm very happy about that.   It just has a really strong wood influence on the palate, which I find a bit unusual.  I've noticed a similar "wood forward" approach on some of their private store pick single barrels (unlike their standard bourbons, which are better balanced in that respect).  But with the extra age of this 8 year, the wood influence is even more noticeable. 

 

As I get near the bottom of this glass, my palate has already adjusted to the unexpected blast of oak.  I can already tell there is a lot to like about this bottle.  I really like the finish, which has tons of the vanilla and caramel notes that we all enjoy with KSBW.  I paid $70 for this one and when it's gone, I'd buy it again for that price.  I don't think it's a "bunker" bottle (meaning I'd buy multiple backups).  But I'd recommend it to anyone who is already a NR fan.  I think for me, their standard SiB and BiB are probably still my favorite NR bourbons, considering the price and availability. But this bottle is a legit offering from New Riff that you should definitely pull the trigger on if you enjoy their other bourbons.

 

 

[b1gcountry]

10 minutes ago, Kepler said:

 

I always like to visit a new bottle a couple of times before giving very much conclusive feedback to others ... in case they are looking to spend their money on whether to make the purchase or not.

 

Having said that, here are my "first pour" impressions on this bottle.  It's very oak influenced right up front on the palate.  The wood influence hits you like a freight train right off the bat.  Maybe too much for my ideal bourbon preference.  But on the other hand, the oak does not corrupt the finish like most "over oaked" bourbons do, that turn me away from them.  This bourbon is NOT over oaked.  There is zero drying tannin finish, so I'm very happy about that.   It just has a really strong wood influence on the palate, which I find a bit unusual.  I've noticed a similar "wood forward" approach on some of their private store pick single barrels (unlike their standard bourbons, which are better balanced in that respect).  But with the extra age of this 8 year, the wood influence is even more noticeable. 

 

As I get near the bottom of this glass, my palate has already adjusted to the unexpected blast of oak.  I can already tell there is a lot to like about this bottle.  I really like the finish, which has tons of the vanilla and caramel notes that we all enjoy with KSBW.  I paid $70 for this one and when it's gone, I'd buy it again for that price.  I don't think it's a "bunker" bottle (meaning I'd buy multiple backups).  But I'd recommend it to anyone who is already a NR fan.  I think for me, their standard SiB and BiB are probably still my favorite NR bourbons, considering the price and availability. But this bottle is a legit offering from New Riff that you should definitely pull the trigger on if you enjoy their other bourbons.

 

 

Thanks! I had a chance to buy this from a lottery, but picked this as my second choice. I don't feel too bad about it. 

[Skinsfan1311]

On 7/20/2024 at 10:52 PM, Kepler said:

 

I always like to visit a new bottle a couple of times before giving very much conclusive feedback to others ... in case they are looking to spend their money on whether to make the purchase or not.

 

Having said that, here are my "first pour" impressions on this bottle.  It's very oak influenced right up front on the palate.  The wood influence hits you like a freight train right off the bat.  Maybe too much for my ideal bourbon preference.  But on the other hand, the oak does not corrupt the finish like most "over oaked" bourbons do, that turn me away from them.  This bourbon is NOT over oaked.  There is zero drying tannin finish, so I'm very happy about that.   It just has a really strong wood influence on the palate, which I find a bit unusual.  I've noticed a similar "wood forward" approach on some of their private store pick single barrels (unlike their standard bourbons, which are better balanced in that respect).  But with the extra age of this 8 year, the wood influence is even more noticeable. 

 

As I get near the bottom of this glass, my palate has already adjusted to the unexpected blast of oak.  I can already tell there is a lot to like about this bottle.  I really like the finish, which has tons of the vanilla and caramel notes that we all enjoy with KSBW.  I paid $70 for this one and when it's gone, I'd buy it again for that price.  I don't think it's a "bunker" bottle (meaning I'd buy multiple backups).  But I'd recommend it to anyone who is already a NR fan.  I think for me, their standard SiB and BiB are probably still my favorite NR bourbons, considering the price and availability. But this bottle is a legit offering from New Riff that you should definitely pull the trigger on if you enjoy their other bourbons.

 

 

Thanks for sharing!

I bought one during the pre-sale, but I won't get my grubby hands on it until football season.   I'm glad to read that it's not over oaked.     NR is doing great things and I hope that they continue to do so...

Edited July 24, 2024 by Skinsfan1311

[MM818]

This is a pretty robust whiskey. Took a couple minutes to even get the bottle opened. Lots of ethanol. Drinks a little hot. Couple of drops of water settled it down. I think this bottle just needed to open. The whiskey was getting restless. Looking forward to the journey with this one. 

[fishnbowljoe]

With regards to my “three down” post in the “Empty Bottle Support Group” thread. Three up!  
For actual transparency, the MM was refilled from an open 1.75.

 

 

[Kepler]

I also have Three up!

I opened these up to prepare for a future blind sbs of bib craft bourbons.  Sbs to happen later.

 

 

 

Edited July 29, 2024 by Kepler

[b1gcountry]

10 hours ago, Kepler said:

I also have Three up!

I opened these up to prepare for a future blind sbs of bib craft bourbons.  Sbs to happen later.

 

 

 

The wilderness trail is also pretty good. 

[fishnbowljoe]

And once again with regards to my post in the Empty Bottle Support Group…..not one, but two up!

 

 

 

[Anwalt]

Maybe it's the neck pour thing. I did not care for it. Seems flat, reminds me of Bernheim. Poured most of the Glencairn into a 2 oz bottle. Will let it and the 750 ml sit for a few months to see if it changes some. Otherwise give it to someone who likes it or use it for cocktails.

 

 

[PaulO]

10 hours ago, fishnbowljoe said:

And once again with regards to my post in the Empty Bottle Support Group…..not one, but two up!

 

 

 

Ah, the W12 with the embossed wheat on the bottle.  I bet that has to be at least 15, maybe 20 years old.  Deep into the bunker to pull that one out.  

[fishnbowljoe]

6 minutes ago, PaulO said:

Ah, the W12 with the embossed wheat on the bottle.  I bet that has to be at least 15, maybe 20 years old.  Deep into the bunker to pull that one out.  

Yes, pretty much so. It’s a 2009 Binny’s ps. Reportedly 13-14 yr old distillate. I had two cases at one time. A good number of them were shared with “others”.   I have one open, and one left in the bunker. Been a helluva ride.

[PaulO]

1 minute ago, fishnbowljoe said:

Yes, pretty much so. It’s a 2009 Binny’s ps. Reportedly 13-14 yr old distillate. I had two cases at one time. A good number of them were shared with “others”.   I have one open, and one left in the bunker. Been a helluva ride.

Around that time, I happened to be visiting Chicago and picked up several of those.  It was my first experience with W12.  (This was before a window of several years it was available in IN.)  Anyway, after tasting the Binny's version compared to the regular version, I'd rank it up there with some of the best batches of ORVW (no joke).  Not too bad what $20 odd bought you back in the day.  Exactly one bottle of this left in my bunker.

[fishnbowljoe]

1 minute ago, PaulO said:

Around that time, I happened to be visiting Chicago and picked up several of those.  It was my first experience with W12.  (This was before a window of several years it was available in IN.)  Anyway, after tasting the Binny's version compared to the regular version, I'd rank it up there with some of the best batches of ORVW (no joke).  Not too bad what $20 odd bought you back in the day.  Exactly one bottle of this left in my bunker.

Yes dear.

All kidding aside, mostly the same boat here. Fairly new to bourbon. An SB get together at Binny’s South Loop store. A stop at another Binny’s on the way to the South Loop store. Purchases of the Weller 12 at both.

[flahute]

On 7/30/2024 at 12:07 PM, Anwalt said:

Maybe it's the neck pour thing. I did not care for it. Seems flat, reminds me of Bernheim. Poured most of the Glencairn into a 2 oz bottle. Will let it and the 750 ml sit for a few months to see if it changes some. Otherwise give it to someone who likes it or use it for cocktails.

 

 

Resist the temptation to blame the "neck pour"! I'm going to say it was your palate.

Keep giving it a shot because this one has always treated me right.

[b1gcountry]

4 hours ago, flahute said:

Resist the temptation to blame the "neck pour"! I'm going to say it was your palate.

Keep giving it a shot because this one has always treated me right.

Barton has always been hit or miss for me. Sometimes I like it but other times it just tastes bleh. Same bottle, but my palette needs to be in the mood.

 

When I like it, it's similar to nice JD. When I don't, it's like Clyde Maye's. I've started just buying JD instead...

 

I know other folks love it, it just hits me odd sometimes.

[Kepler]

On 7/29/2024 at 6:44 AM, b1gcountry said:

The wilderness trail is also pretty good. 

Yes that one is pretty good.  I've emptied two of their wheated bottles, ... one BiB and one barrel strength. I don't have another Wilderness Trail on hand to compare now.

[flahute]

55 minutes ago, b1gcountry said:

Barton has always been hit or miss for me. Sometimes I like it but other times it just tastes bleh. Same bottle, but my palette needs to be in the mood.

 

Same for me with BT. It's weird.