pepcycle Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 chuck, I'm sorry, its a double secret society and divulging ambassador information would subject an ambassador to drinking only MM, a punishment worse than death. Actually, MM ambassadorship is a marketing pyramid scheme, in which ambassadors nominate other ambassadors, who nominate other ambassadors ad nauseum. You can get to the website via www.makersmark.com. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Yeah, and we get to wear big, fuzzy horned hats to the secret meetings, "Ack ack a dack, dack dack a ack" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgonano Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 And I saved $10 on tickets to WhiskyFest; plus a nice set of aromatic coasters/jar openers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbutler Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 The coasters give off an odor??? Just when you place a drink on them, or all the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneCubeOnly Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 Actually, MM ambassadorship is a marketing pyramid scheme, in which ambassadors nominate other ambassadors, who nominate other ambassadors ad nauseum. I must be low man on the totem pole then, because I never even received that Ambassador letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgonano Posted October 6, 2004 Share Posted October 6, 2004 The coasters give off an odor??? Just when you place a drink on them, or all the time? Only when I place my Baltimore Colts rolypoly (courtesy of Shell Oil Co. ) upon them. It's the Irsay effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vision Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 I used to find the taste of JB black very similar to Booker's when you adjust for proof. Aren't they the same? I thought it was all the same barrels, but bookers was raw. They still taste identical IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 I don't know them to be the same, but maybe they are. They could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNbourbon Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 Actually, MM ambassadorship is a marketing pyramid scheme, in which ambassadors nominate other ambassadors, who nominate other ambassadors ad nauseum. I guess I got in easy -- I just filled out the little card handed out at the end of the tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff Posted October 11, 2004 Share Posted October 11, 2004 I just filled out the little card handed out at the end of the tour I hope you read the fine print very closely. I believe you owe me a kidney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNbourbon Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 I hope you read the fine print very closely. I believe you owe me a kidney Ever heard of IGA nephropathy, aka Berger's Disease. I've got it (In other words, Jeff, you don't want my kidney!). For the record, my colon is already removed, and a coronary artery stented. Fine print or no, you're better off leaving me alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brendaj Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 wear big, fuzzy horned hats to the secret meetings As long as those hats have been dipped in red wax... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepcycle Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 I got a "personal" reply to my web complaint, from Mr. Motlow, master distiller at JD. Patty also got one to her message. Each of the personal replies had the same content only the paragraphs were mixed up, so it looked like different content. I bet you didn't know this, but worldwide, JD drinkers usually mix their whiskey with water or some other mixer, so that means they WANT IT at lower proof. REALLY. I believe it. Lem said so. Its not about money. REALLY. I believe it. They even made it darker, so even though its more dilute, it looks the same as before. REALLY. I believe it. They even claim to be using older whiskey to insure the flavor is the same. REALLY......... OK, NOT REALLY. I don't believe it a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneCubeOnly Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 They even made it darker, so even though its more dilute, it looks the same as before.Artificial color? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian12069 Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I've heard Jack adds color. If it were bourbon you couldn't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneCubeOnly Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I've heard Jack adds color. If it were bourbon you couldn't do that.If that's true, why was it so hard to figure out why JD doesn't have to call itself "bourbon"??? This seems like an obvious deviation from the 'rules' to me! Who cares if the filtration step is additive or not? If they're adding color there's the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillman Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 But there is a plausible, alternative explanation for why the color is as dark as before the proof change: the product is older than before. This would explain the continued good color and (as some people have perceived) sweeter taste. If I have it right, this is what distiller Motlow told a poster inquiring about the proof change. Indeed the latest bottles of Jack seem to me somewhat sweeter, and smokier, than before. This is consistent with the assertion that older stocks are being used.However you cut it, I find the current JD Black very good at 80 proof; in fact, JD Black is better than ever, in my opinion.Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleblank Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 I just got back from my annual dove hunt near Cotulla, Texas on the Cochina Ranch. Several people on the hunt had heard of this 86 vs 80 proof brewhaha from their local papers. Guess what?....they had several 1.75's of the old proof...I told them they might have collector's items.....they poured them just the same. How about them Astros's?Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8erdane Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 What Astros? Oh, those Astros. Wish we could watch the NLCS series together Randy, but I promise you, whichever team wins, I will toast them with a pour from the Randy Blank Edition Lot B and a cold frosty Budweiser. NL Central all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_in_Canada Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 The opening page to Jim Beam website plays on the Jack "deproofing". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNbourbon Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 On the one hand, great. On the other -- well, JB Black used to be 90 proof, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcheer Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Bingo!Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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