BourbonJoe Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Is ORVW 15 - 107 in the squat (Frankfort) bottle Stitzel-Weller bourbon? Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillman Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 YesGary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BourbonJoe Posted July 27, 2005 Author Share Posted July 27, 2005 Is ANY Van Winkle product, 12 years or older, a Stitzel-Weller Bourbon?? Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNbourbon Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 No. The earliest Pappy 23s from Lawrenceburg, at least, were rye bourbons, probably from Boone Bros. (Julian poured some of his earliest Pappy 20, which was Boone bourbon, too, at the Gazebo following the Sampler). And, the last of the Van Winkle Lot B 12yo using S-W bourbon will be/has been bottled this month, according to Julian. Hereafter, it will be Buffalo Trace wheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BourbonJoe Posted July 27, 2005 Author Share Posted July 27, 2005 Tim, How about the later Pappy 20's and the ORVW-10's? Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNbourbon Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Yes on the Pappy 20s, maybe on the Frankfort ORVW 10s, currently and hereafter with BT distillate, but at one time S-W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CL Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 Sigh. If I was still imbibing, I would be in deep mourning. Heck, I am still mourning its passing. The Lot B 12 yo was my favorite VW bourbon. In fact, if I had had to choose one bottling of any bourbon to drink for the rest of my life, I would have chosen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasking Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 . . . the last of the Van Winkle Lot B 12yo using S-W bourbon will be/has been bottled this month, according to Julian. Hereafter, it will be Buffalo Trace wheat. No intervening Bernheim? Is the BT wheat bourbon that old now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleblank Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I'm quite sure Tim meant to say there will be Bernheim wheated whiskey in the 12yo until the BT wheated gets to be 12 yo. Somewhere on these boards I believe Julian stated when BT (re)-started distilling wheated bourbon and you can do the math to know when the change to BT might occur.Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNbourbon Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 ...No intervening Bernheim? Is the BT wheat bourbon that old now? You caught me -- geesh, after all these years I still need an editor! What I meant to say (yeah, yeah ) was 'BT-owned' non-S/W whiskey. Of course, like all the other knowledgeable folks here, you knew I meant that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasking Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I was not trying to be a smartass; sorry if it came across that way. I didn't recall when BT started distilling for the Van Winkles. I'm sure I could have found that somewhere on here. I know the 10yo ORVW is Bernheim, but I thought maybe there was some small amount of old BT wheat bourbon that had been saved for the small batch 12yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNbourbon Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I didn't take it that way at all. Was a little disappointed in myself that I didn't spell out the Bernheim connection myself. I deserved chastisement/correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyc Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I didn't recall when BT started distilling for the Van Winkles. Beyond, or before that, somewhere on these forums you will find a post by Ken Weber that BT produced wheated distillate for united and the conclusion that the Weller brands came full circle to BTs ownership and some had been produced by them as well. I think the same is true of Old Charter as well.That's the best I can do at the moment I don't have the time to search a link for the above statements' veracity, believe me if it's wrong there will be a pounce! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Weber Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Your contention is correct. BTD started distilling wheated bourbon for UD (United Distillers) in the early 90s. Our recently retired Master Distiller, Gary Gayheart, was making Old Charter Bourbon (long ago Schenley brand) decades ago.Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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