gr8erdane Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I see a lot of votes for Elmer T Lee here. I hope for all your sanity that you'd find the newer foil wrapped bottles rather than the old wax entombed ones. I envision a castaway on a desert island that finds a case of ETL washed up on the shore with the wax closure trying in frustration to open it with a coconut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelshare Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Guess we would have to go with AAA assuming we remained in VA. It's delicious and cheap - $12/liter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vange Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I am relatively new to bourbons, but here is my answer...I think I am overthinking the question, but if I had to only drink one bourbon for the rest of my life I think I would want it to be a higher end bourbon rather than a bargain bourbon. So, I guess my answer is PVW 20. I know that the pricing sucks as compared to the ETL or others, but I would want to go out knowing I went out with one of the best! No regrets!I tried the Elmer T Lee and the OF Birthday bourbon at the philly whiskey festival and I actually preferred the OF Birthday bourbon. Don't get me wrong, for what we pay for ETL, it's damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayton Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I reserve Stagg as my favorite pour, but it's not something I drink everyday. I have a bottle of ETL that is unopened (but won't be for long after reading all of these posts!). Until I check that out, I would probably take Weller 12 as a personal favorite. I agree with Camduncan though -- I would happily drink VW Rye the rest of my life, but this thread isn't about rye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbuzbee Posted November 18, 2005 Author Share Posted November 18, 2005 I am relatively new to bourbons, but here is my answer...I think I am overthinking the question, but if I had to only drink one bourbon for the rest of my life I think I would want it to be a higher end bourbon rather than a bargain bourbon. So, I guess my answer is PVW 20. I know that the pricing sucks as compared to the ETL or others, but I would want to go out knowing I went out with one of the best! No regrets!I tried the Elmer T Lee and the OF Birthday bourbon at the philly whiskey festival and I actually preferred the OF Birthday bourbon. Don't get me wrong, for what we pay for ETL, it's damn good. You're not overthinking this at all. And that is exactly what I was looking for. What is important, to you, assuming you couldn't go high end one day and cost conscious the next. What is you most driving desire (okay, with Bourbon!). Is cost YOUR deciding factor? Or taste? Or age, oak, smoothness?? Where would you balance these?? Pappy 20 is a fine choice if you can afford as much as you want to drink (or, to turn that around, if you'd be happy only drinking the amount you could afford!). For me, I wanted something I could have 5-8 oz a day and not file for food stamps.Angleshare - you don't have to stay in Virginia (though you certainly CAN). One of the criteria was you would have ample availability, but you'd have to pay whatever that Bourbon costs. If you can afford it, you can have it. But only one choice! So if you want to change from AAA feel free (but not compelled) to do so.Thanks everyone for playing by the rules. This one is hard if you really think it through. Lots of votes for ETL. Many for WT in one iteration or another. I figured Tim to go for a Weller, though I wasn't sure which one.Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward_call_me_Ed Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I am still not done thinking, but I did have an interesting thought. I might either Booker's or Stagg. Both of them are on my top shelf, and, while neither of them is my absolute favorite, their high proof would give me more range than a lower proof bourbon. My favorite proof, day in and day out is somewhere around 100, so most days I could cut my choice down to that. Some days 86 to 90 proof is what takes my fancy, and what the heck, some days I might want a glass of brown Zinfandel. Other days I want a really high proof bourbon in my glass. If I choose Elmer T Lee, which may be my favorite pour, certainly one of the top five, I wouldn't be able to drink a 120 something proof bourbon ever again. However, neither of these whiskeys has the powerful cinnamon note that I currently value the most. Stagg has it more than Booker's. Hmm. I have a bottle of Olde St Nick 20 that has a lot of cinnamon, it is 58% too. More expensive than the other two. But I don't think that expense is that big a factor for me. I buy whiskey much faster than I can drink it so I am spending more per month than I would be buying only what I can drink of a more expensive bourbon.Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobA Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 I too have given this some thought, and thought the same thing about Stagg and Booker's as you, ED. Then again, I believe that I've said in other threads that I'd probably miss OGD 114 most if it left the market, on its mix of proof, price, quality, and distinctive taste. If I was only buying one bourbon, I could afford Stagg, given my consumption; like you, exploratory purchasing outpaces my drinking. But then never to re-examine wheaters, or those drinks I like when I just want a simple pour, or when I want something oily, or dry? No RHF, or even OC 12?I have made my decision. I refuse to accept the premise.Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoste Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 This is a tough one for me to answer. I'm a neophyte to actually tasting and with limited product available in Canada, there is just SOOO much I have yet to try. My collection can't even rightly be called that yet as it's just too small.So, given my limited experience, I have to go with something that is nice but fairly simple. My two current favourites have been Beam Black and Wild Turkey Rare Breed. If it has to be only one of them, tonight, the nod will go to the Jim Beam Black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneCubeOnly Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Hmmm...a 'desert island' bourbon but you have to pay for it? If I can have Montgomery County pricing, I'll go for Blanton's. If I have to pay retail, give me standard Buffalo Trace.I guess I'm one of the rare folks who just doesn't get it with ETL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward_call_me_Ed Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Hi One Cube, It is interesting to me that you really like Blanton's but don't care for ETL. To me they are very similar bourbons. Real family resemblance. I guess YMMV. I know how you feel, I don't 'get' EWSB. I have had it in bars and bought a bottle while I was home. I didn't finish it, but I put a dent in the contents. Very nice. No wow for me. I really like the Even William's line, too. The black label is good. The 12 yo red label is excellent. I have had a 15 yo once in a bar, very good. As for the ETL, how many times have you had it? Under what conditions? I have to drink at least a bottle for my opinion to begin to stabilize.Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BourbonJoe Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 I guess YMMV. Ed YMMV ??? Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward_call_me_Ed Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 YMMV: Your Milage May Vary. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedVette Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 But today, the pressure is ON. If you don't select one you will be denied ANY Bourbon.....Then there is my answer. If I were limited to only one Bourbon, I am afraid that I would no longer be a Bourbon drinker. A major part of the enjoyment of Bourbon for me is the diversity of the product. I like finding rareties, I like finding bargains, I like drinking bad Bourbon so I have a benchmark to tell me what a good Bourbon should be. One Bourbon would be boring so I think I would just check out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musher Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 I guess I'd have to end up where I started then, and choose Wild Turkey 101. It got the right balance of sweetness and spice that I would not grow tired of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneCubeOnly Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 It is interesting to me that you really like Blanton's but don't care for ETL. To me they are very similar bourbons. Real family resemblance. I guess YMMV.I've heard ETL described as the "poor man's Blanton's" before, and I wouldn't even call it that. To me, ETL is a lot less esoteric, and in a whole different league. ETL has a bold punch of nutmeg/cinnamon which to me throws the balance off. I also find the sweetness a bit much.I can understand the great following it has though...it's aged longer than Blanton's and definitely has a take-no-prisoners in-your-face boldness. It's just not for me I guess.I know how you feel, I don't 'get' EWSB. I have had it in bars and bought a bottle while I was home. I didn't finish it, but I put a dent in the contents. Very nice. No wow for me. I really like the Even William's line, too. The black label is good. The 12 yo red label is excellent. I have had a 15 yo once in a bar, very good.I'm very much the same way with EWSB, but probably for a different reason. I 'cut my teeth' so-to-speak into the Heaven Hill lineup with EC12, which I thoroughly enjoy. EWSB seems to have the same tastes but in different proportions, so it has always tasted slightly 'off' to my palate. I absolutely LOVED the 12yo Red Label that Koji brought (and we also tasted during the VIP HH tour).As for the ETL, how many times have you had it? Under what conditions? I have to drink at least a bottle for my opinion to begin to stabilize.I finished a whole bottle, but the final third went into ginger ale. For $16.99 I can't complain though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmas Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Only one huh, ok, I gotta go with Old Rip 10yr 107. Love what's in the bottle, the price ain't too crazy, and, I love look'n at the bottle too. Tom V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBOmarc Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 If I can only buy one it would be so very tough. But....Eagle Rare 10 y/o SBQuestion? Can I have an occaisional sip of everyone else's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbuzbee Posted November 20, 2005 Author Share Posted November 20, 2005 Question? Can I have an occaisional sip of everyone else's? Sorry, with all the wonderful folks around here this would quickly become scenario abuse Suddenly there would be "gazebos" springing up all over the county functioning weekly (if not daily). It was defined this away in the premise to avoid having to call the scenario police! Nice try though. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward_call_me_Ed Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Hi OneCube, I see what you mean. One of the reasons that I like Blanton's is for the nutmeg/cinnamon note. The Blanton's that I enjoyed the most were the ones with the strongest cookie spice note. The bottle of ETL that I am working on now has that note in spades. It is a little one dimensional that way, which is fine with me, I like that dimension. Elijah Craig 12 was one of the first bourbons that I had after coming back to whiskey about a year ago. I had the same problem with the Evan Williams line for the same reason as you did. The notes I was looking for were there in the EW, but subdued. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barturtle Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 The original scenerio does specificaly say bourbon though, leaving a wide open gap for drinking all of the Rye, Corn, Irish, Canadian, Scotch, Wheat and Japanese whisk(e)y you could handle. I was counting on this loophole to save me I might be able to limit it to one of each, but no way I can go down to one whisk(e)y for the rest of my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbuzbee Posted November 20, 2005 Author Share Posted November 20, 2005 The original scenerio does specificaly say bourbon though, leaving a wide open gap for drinking all of the Rye, Corn, Irish, Canadian, Scotch, Wheat and Japanese whisk(e)y you could handle. I was counting on this loophole to save me I might be able to limit it to one of each, but no way I can go down to one whisk(e)y for the rest of my life. Oh exactly. I fully expect to still have a WT Rye, a Forty Creek Canadian and a Lagavulin Scotch for non Bourbon nights. I find I have the most variety with Bourbon making it a much more difficult selection process. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barturtle Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 I can see Van Winkle 13yo rye, Lot 40 Candian, Highland Park 18, Platte Valley Corn, Bernhiem Wheat(only one, so far, haven't had it but the chioce is there), Connemara Irish, and for relaxing times I'll make it Suntory time. If I really want to cheat Old Potrero counts twice according to the government's rules, once as malt whiskey(the younger) and once as rye malt whiskey(the older), of course at this point we also start running into blends and grain whiskies and non-straights, but that starts getting ridiculous to track. Talk about finding a loophole and running a freight train through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimR Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 If I had to pick just one..........it would be WT RB. Of coarse having at least one Irish and one Scotch would help me through it. In that case give me Black Bush and Highland Park. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1holegrouper Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 Thought about this one for a while:If money and availability were not considered it would definately be: PVW 20 (as good or better than Blanton's but not in a gaywad bottle)If reality (money and availability) were considered it would be: WTRB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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