jeff Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 Any discussion of new and innovative products would be lacking without mention of the Four Roses distillery. With their two mash bills and five different strains of yeast, the possibilities seem limitless. Though probably most widely known for their blended whiskey, which dominated production for decades, a sale of the distillery to Kirin, with their focus once again on bourbon whiskey, has been a renaissance for Four Roses and for the bourbon industry. First released was the ubiquitous "yellow label", sans the "blended" moniker (to the cheers of bourbon lovers everywhere). Several years later came the Single Barrel followed shortly by the Small Batch. Rumor has it that distribution is opening up, and more products are in the pipeline. That is good news for us, and more work for their competitors. Jim Rutledge and his staff at Four Roses are top-notch people and have been very kind to Straightbourbon.com. Let's show them a little love!This month we'll be discussing the American release of the Four Roses Single Barrel, but feel free to compare and contrast with the overseas release if you are lucky enough to have one. I realize that availability is limited on this bottling; distribution is the only reason we haven't been discussing Four Roses as BOTM until now. But, any bourbon drinker worth his/her salt should have by now visited KY and picked up a couple bottles to take home. :893drillsergeant-thSound off:893drillsergeant-th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggilbertva Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Hmmm...I've been putting off opening up my FRSB because I have so many other bottles open. Guess I have no excuse now. I'm headed to KY in Oct. so now I will be able to replace/replenish as needed.I'll pop open my lone bottle and provide feedback with my limited bourbon vocabulary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispyCritter Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 So far, my only taste of FRSB came courtesy of Chuck (thank you!), and I must say it's superb. This is one I fervently hope will come to Chicagoland... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadewood Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 I'll nominated this for BOTY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeK Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Marvelous stuff, a must have. Given proper attention and consideration, it can have one of the most complex noses I have ever encountered.For those poor souls who have not made a pilgrimage to KY to score some, here is a reasonable substitute. Try some Bulleit. Four Roses makes it and you can definitely taste the family resemblance. FRSB uses their high rye mashbill and a very floral yeast, so it has much more character, but the Bulleit is not a bad substitute. I have also found that Bulleit benefits a TON by some breathing. Split a bottle between two bottles so you have some nice airspace and then wait a week or 2 or 3. It is much improved.Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburlowski Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Very good pour and a definite buy. I'm glad to see they distribution is expanding so that those outside the Commonwealth can enjoy it as well.But in my book the Small Batch is even better; with more complexity ---- the Single Barrel (while excellent in its own right) seems one-dimensional in comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viperguy Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 I will be visiting louisville/lexington area in 2 weeks and will have 2 bottles of FR single barrel euro... if someone wants to trade??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 One of my favorite pours. Complex nose and palette, long smooth finish. It's smoothness makes it seem less than 100 proof. First I get a sugary sweetness similar to a fine aged rum, then the chocolate covered cherries come through. What amazes me is its consistency from barrel to barrel. Jim does an excellent job in selecting the barrels. I've had it from 5 different barrels and it takes a nose and palette superior to mine to detect ant significant difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Years ago Ova Haney, Jim Rutledge's predecessor, made it clear to me in the ever-so-polite way of Kentuckians that he thought the methods they use at Four Roses, which are the methods developed and practiced by Seagrams, are superior to the way other distilleries make whiskey. Now that we really have an opportunity to taste several different expressions of the whiskey from this distillery, one has to conclude that he was not too far off the mark. While other distilleries make good whiskey too, none surpasses Four Roses for consistent excellence, which I would describe as near perfect balance. The epitome of this is the single barrel, made more challenging because being a single barrel, it doesn't allow them to use their blending magic. This is pretty much everything you want a bourbon to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozilla Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Took a trip to Kentucky and toured both Four Roses facilities(Lburg and Cox Creek). The people are super friendly and thier bourbon is outstanding. Was privileged enough to try all the expressions. IIRC the single barrel uses the high rye mash bill and the spicey yeast, the small batch combines that and high rye with either floral or fruity, I can't remember which. Fruity was going through the still when I toured and I'll say that the first and second pulls off the stills were excellent as is. I would quickly buy all the bourbon distillet I could find if it were available. Also tried some single barrel at barrel proof.....was so smooth, didn't even burn in the slightist. Great tour and product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsh3406 Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 I was able to try both the single barrel and small batch at the tasting a few weeks ago. I loved them both and am still kicking myself for not bringing any home.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrispyCritter Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Well, a bottle of this somehow materialized in my bunker, so I'm having a pour. Mmmmmmmmmm. Two thumbs up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 Well, a bottle of this somehow materialized in my bunker... Hey, where's mine? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viperguy Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 so no one wants a bottle of the European release?:skep: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarV Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 With this being BOTM, I decided to open mine up last night.Brought it out with others for friends after dinner.We all agreed it out-classed everything else.The balance of spice and sweet is truly an art form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighTower Posted May 13, 2007 Share Posted May 13, 2007 so no one wants a bottle of the European release?:skep: I do Viperguy, but I live in Australia Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viperguy Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 I do Viperguy, but I live in Australia Scott humm... cant say i'm headed your way for awhile. that would be quite a drive:grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virus_Of_Life Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Marvelous stuff! I absolutely love both this expression and the Small Batch from Four Roses. I think they as a distillery have the most potential of what they could offer the bourbon community going forward and I hope that we as a community here at SB.com work to nurture that relationship. Unfortunately all the bottles of this that I brought back with me from Kentucky have been given away as gifts, the last of which is the one my buddy and I have been sipping all weekend here in Oregon - he also really likes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwrussell Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Any news or insight into how and when the distribution of this might be expanding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozilla Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Any news or insight into how and when the distribution of this might be expanding?news is that NY is first, which I believe has already happened. Second is a group that includes Fl,Ca and Tx. Should be within the next year and a half or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwrussell Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 news is that NY is first, which I believe has already happened. Second is a group that includes Fl,Ca and Tx. Should be within the next year and a half or so.FL! WooHoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob O. Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 news is that NY is first, which I believe has already happened. Second is a group that includes Fl,Ca and Tx. Should be within the next year and a half or so.Glad to hear it will be making its way to the Left Coast. :grin: Now if an online vendor would start carrying it we could all benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Rutledge has stated that Chicago metro may be next. Lush, a liquor store here that is owned by the same guys who own the Twisted Spoke bars, already carries it, but I think they accomplished that through some unofficial means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinjoe Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Rutledge has stated that Chicago metro may be next. Lush, a liquor store here that is owned by the same guys who own the Twisted Spoke bars, already carries it, but I think they accomplished that through some unofficial means. Bars, liquor, unofficial means...in CHICAGO?? :shocked: No way, can't be!!! By the way, do you know what the price is at Lush for this? My assumption would be a hefty mark-up? JOE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickynick Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Rutledge has stated that Chicago metro may be next. Lush, a liquor store here that is owned by the same guys who own the Twisted Spoke bars, already carries it, but I think they accomplished that through some unofficial means.Which Lush location? Both? How much are they charging for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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