cowdery Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Alcohol taxes are really job-killing taxes on the hospitality industry. Pass it on.Stop Hospitality Taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBOmarc Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Thank You for posting this. Making a profit goes along with assuming the hours and the labor that it takes to run a proper bar. Think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILLfarmboy Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Thanks Chuck. I filled out the information and clicked submit.I'm always up for fighting taxesUnder the section where it asks "who are you", meaning how is your occupation connected to the hospitality industry, based on the multiple choice, in the "other" section I put I just like to drink and eat out. I was tempted to put "Chuck sent me" :grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBOmarc Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 So in Essence, The Beastie Boy's were once again correct!I couldn't resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 The Boys were wise beyond their years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nor02lei Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 You are welcome to come here to Sweden and protest as well. The alcohol tax on a 75 cl 100 proof bottle is about 32 USD and upon that it is a 25% sale tax. If I try to find anything positive witch is hard, it would be that the alcohol tax is only the alcohol. That mean it is the same on a cheap spirit as on a very expensive one. I use to say that it is this taxes alongside our bistre climate and rush working climate that make more people die of suicide than car-accident here.Leif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 The Federal Excise Tax (FET), which is the largest single tax on liquor in the U.S., is also a tax on the alcohol itself, in that it is based on the alcohol content, not a percentage of the product's price, like a sales tax. The current rate is $13.50 per proof gallon. A "proof gallon" is one gallon of 100 proof spirit. That has been the rate since the mid-1980s and there are proposals to raise it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thesh Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I propose getting rid of all alcohol taxes will reduce poverty in this country by a significant amount. It would also lower the amount of money that is needed for welfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barturtle Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I propose getting rid of all alcohol taxes will reduce poverty in this country by a significant amount. It would also lower the amount of money that is needed for welfare.I would love to hear how you justify those statements.1. How would it reduce poverty?2. How would it lower the amount of money needed for welfare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barturtle Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 BTW...I guess this will quickly be moved to PRC quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thesh Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I would love to hear how you justify those statements.1. How would it reduce poverty?2. How would it lower the amount of money needed for welfare?I don't claim to have any facts nor do I claim to have given this subject any thought, however, the less money people make the larger percentage of their income they spend on alcohol. Two scenarios will result. 1) people drink the same amount and end up having more money for food and clothes2) people consume more alcohol due to the lower cost, resulting in more deaths from alcohol poisoning, lowering the number of people in povertyA lower cost would also mean that more alcohol would be sold nation wide, creating thousands of jobs.So the conclusion I make is that the alcohol tax is killing lower class americans by pushing them into poverty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barturtle Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 So the conclusion I make is that the alcohol tax is killing lower class americans by pushing them into poverty.But you wish to kill even more of them through alcohol poisoning?This is an interesting concept, and while I always enjoy a "strongest survive" scenario, I doubt this one would pass muster...Thing is...poverty level is based purely on income...it cares not what you actually spend that money on...if you want to spent your limited funds on caviar and champagne, the stats could care less....though after a day or two you'll be quite hungry. nor do I claim to have given this subject any thoughtIf you aren't bothering to give you statements any thought, why bother posting them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thesh Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Thing is...poverty level is based purely on income...That's an oversimplification.There is a statistical number that people like to put on poverty. It states that if you make $10,400 you are in poverty, if you make $10,401 then you are not.If you aren't bothering to give you statements any thought, why bother posting them?In the hopes I will create followers and one day have an army to help me take over the world. If I don't put thought into anything, no one can argue with me on an intellectual basis, and I can catch them off guard and turn them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barturtle Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 That's an oversimplification.There is a statistical number that people like to put on poverty. It states that if you make $10,400 you are in poverty, if you make $10,401 then you are not.I don't think it would be considered an oversimplification when it is the official definition of poverty in the US...not being willing to make the sacrifices needed to live on a greater salary doesn't make you in poverty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thesh Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=060914140645.wl9uakm4&show_article=1How about that then? Make alcohol cheaper, they will be more likely to drink and more likely to make more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barturtle Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 That same study shows that male widowers earn 20% more than non-widowers...does that mean that everyone should kill their wives? (Ladies don't bother to kill your husbands, you'll earn .4% less, actually you shouldn't get married at all, as you'll earn 9% less by saying "I do")The study also notes that it is contradicted by another study on the alcohol to earnings issue. The study also doesn't break down this supposed increase in pay by income levels. Maybe instead we should convert them all to being Jewish as they earn 35% more (15% for females) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorvallisCracker Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Maybe instead we should convert them all to being Jewish as they earn 35% more (15% for females)Oy vey!Okay, where's my raise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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