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submarine
11-25-2002, 13:12
I sent an email to Buffalo Trace trying to locate the distributor in my area. In the reply they said;

"The 10 ten old Ancient Ancient Age is getting very scarce. It is currently available in Kentucky and only a few other areas."

I'm new to this and don't know how often brands come and go but those of you that enjoy AAA 10 may want to stock up.

Unless brands become "scarce" for marketing purposes, and even then you may want to stock up before the price jumps.

John F

**DONOTDELETE**
11-25-2002, 14:21
Jesus; Mary, and Joseph! I'm so used to getting AAA 10 Y.O. on sale every three months ($21/1.75L) I just wouldn't know what to do without it! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/crazy.gif Egads Man! All Monies on deck! BUY! BUY! BUY! Man your drinking stations! Man your drinking stations! BUY! BUY! BUY! Thanks for the heads up John!

MurphyDawg
11-25-2002, 14:51
Siphon some of that this way, my good man!!! A tavesty if I cannot get it any more!!


Tom ( http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif Depressed http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif ) C

Gillman
11-25-2002, 15:55
I was a big fan of Triple A for many years. I recall it being rich, deep, caramel-like. A friend bought me a bottle from North Carolina recently. It struck me as completely different than it was: spirity, harsh, with a cidery/hot edge.

"Is it just me", or have others noticed a decline? Could the barrels formerly chosen for Triple A be going into some of the currently popular premium brands of Sazerac?

bobbyc
11-25-2002, 17:29
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Could the barrels formerly chosen for Triple A be going into some of the currently popular premium brands of Sazerac?


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Let's see, if I were a betting Man........
This reminds me of a saying an acquantance used all the time, He 'd say " I've got Bad news and Good News , Bob"
"The bad news is Old Granddad is going up...........
The Good news is , They've got plenty of it!"

Is this like they are pulling out the honey barrels of a reasonably priced Bourbon and going to all premium Brands with it? Us poor smucks getting hosed again?
It's Linn and Murphydawgs fault , They can't log on without saying how good this Bourbon is/was.
Industry insiders read it everyday. " Damn boys thars gold in them Barrels!"
One last thing , Ten High, now that's a drink you can't get too much of! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
11-25-2002, 18:01
It's just you G.M.! I've been buying this bourbon for well over 15 years. It's always rich and wild and never fails to satisfy! It's; flavorful, comforting, and rambunctious! It flys; dives, and dances! Please don't buy anymore. O.K.?

MurphyDawg
11-25-2002, 18:08
Yep it pretty much kicks ass, I have found nary a problem with it so far.


TomC

MurphyDawg
11-25-2002, 18:13
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Industry insiders read it everyday. " Damn boys thars gold in them Barrels!"

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Yes Bobby its sad, you watch they will pull some stunt like taking the same AAA we know and love, kicking it up a few proof points (say 95 or so), repackaging it all fancy-like (like a lot of the BT products have been repackaged recently) and charging $25 for their "new small batch Ancient Ancient Age 10 Year". . . . . . . .I really hope this cynical rant is just that, and not the truth!


Tom (holding out hope) C

Gillman
11-25-2002, 19:05
Well I'll try it again. I do find the regular Ancient Agevery good, and probably today it is a well brand but it deserves better than that. I welcome products like Buffalo Trace (which is great) but one hopes the AA line will be maintained including both quality and extent of distribution.

Paradox
11-26-2002, 09:52
I just came back from a weekend trip to VA and at two ABC stores I visited they had a very nice supply of AAA and it was on sale! I'll be trying it tonight for a first. Just wishing now I had bought 2 bottles!

bourbonmed
11-26-2002, 09:59
Hiya Cypress,

Maybe you had the AAA 10 Star, not the AAA 10 yr. Check the label to be sure.
Omar

Blackkeno
11-26-2002, 11:24
AAA 10 yo is becoming scarce? http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/mad.gif I've never even seen it here in Las Vegas when it was "plentiful." http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif

Gillman
11-26-2002, 18:41
Hi I think it was the ten year old but I can't be sure now, the bottle was finished some time ago.

What is AAA ten star?

jeff
11-30-2002, 12:58
I would think that if supplies of AAA were getting "scarce", then the price would be rising in places where it is available. It is all over Lexington and the price is staying the same @ $11.99 for a 750ml bottle. I think they might have been trying to make you feel better about not getting any by telling you that most people aren't getting any (at least that is the excuse my wife uses http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif )

bobbyc
11-30-2002, 17:43
That's as good an indication we will get , and that's what the market prices are. This is my prompt to not worry until I see the Price start to creep.

Blackkeno
11-30-2002, 22:26
Here in Vegas, when a bottling is being phased out, the prices usually either stay the same or, right at the end, go DOWN as they try to clear out the discontinued item. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif

ratcheer
12-01-2002, 05:01
I would tend to agree with that, unless it was already a much sought after bottling, such as Wild Turkey 12-yr old. If an $11 bottling is being discontinued, it is because they can't sell enough of it to make a profit, even at the already low price.

Tim

bluesbassdad
12-01-2002, 11:00
As far as AAA 10 year is concerned, you're in the same boat (i.e., without a paddle) as we in SoCal, right?

I haven't even found a source in a state that allows shipment to out-of-state buyers. I'd be willing to pay the exhorbitant price from, say, a Pippin's one time just out of curiousity.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

submarine
12-01-2002, 12:30
Dave said;
"As far as AAA 10 year is concerned, you're in the same boat (i.e., without a paddle) as we in SoCal, right?"

It seems like it.
The thing I don't understand is why the standard AA is so abundantly available. If retailers here are buying/selling the AA why not have them toss in a few bottles of the 10 yr. in the order? I can't be the only one in Texas willing to pay a little more to get it.

I found the same sort of thing with OF everybody has the 86 but I had to search for the 100. I don't think the 100 is scarce nor do I think it would be a slow mover. I can't make any sense of it.

John F

kitzg
12-02-2002, 05:29
This is not a scarcity. It has long been the case that AAA 10 is available in only two states. According to Buffalo Trace president, Mark Brown, "There are 2 states that have the AAA 10 Year Old - Kentucky and Virginia (It is has been this way for years). We have adequate stocks to keep these markets going right along. In all other markets you can buy AAA 10 Star, which is a 6 year old, 90 proof product."

submarine
12-02-2002, 06:31
I guess the Prez. would know better than the guy I was corresponding with (K Weber).

All I had to go by was that he works at BT, answers their emails and "getting very scarce" is a quote from him.

The part they both seem to agree on is that I'm not gonna be getting my hands on any AAA 10 unless I take a 500 mile road trip, one way http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif

I've seen "Sams" mentioned here in other threads, are there a few Internet resources members here use when availability issues like this arise?

John F

kitzg
12-02-2002, 09:52
Ken is a great guy, friend of the forum, and helpful. Perhaps Ken's point is that they simply don't have enough to ship outside of VA and KY and still guarantee that customers in those states have a supply.

submarine
12-02-2002, 12:37
Oh man http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/blush.gif

Small world it is in the land of bourbon.

I sure wasn't trying to stir things up. Just trying to locate a bourbon and pass along the info I got along the way.

John F

bluesbassdad
12-02-2002, 13:22
I have placed a couple of orders with Sam's Wine &amp; Spirits (http://www.samswine.com/homepage.asp) and one with Binny's Beverage Depot (http://binnys.com/scripts/index2.cfm) over the last few months.

Assuming you are not in a state that makes it illegal to receive an interstate shipment, you can do the same. However, both of these sources are in Illinois and can't help with the AAA 10 y/o problem. (I've heard that Kentucky and Virginia both prohibit shipments from their retailers to out-of-state customers. That just about puts the cork in the bottle permanently as far as AAA 10 y/o is concerned.)

Another source that a friend of mine suggested is Pippin (of North Carolina), which has locations in many states. However, lately their website has not worked; they may have gotten out of that side of the business for all I know.

There's also Internet Wines &amp; Spirits (http://www.internetwines.com/spirits-bourbon.html). They list an AAA 107 proof 10 year-old, but at $31.25 it hardly seems like a bargain. In fact, their prices look high across the board to me.

BTW, I read in the past few days that there's a legal case working its way to The Supreme Court in regard to the conflict between the Commerce Clause and Amendment XIV (I think it is). However, the case deals with wine not liquor; I doubt that even a favorable outcome for wine would make liquor more easily available. (You Kentuckians may gain the right to buy wine directly from California wineries, but we Californians won't gain a similar right in regard to Kentucky bourbon.)

Since the case was brought by the wine industry, you can bet they won't address any elements that might in any way jeopardize the outcome in regard to wine -- and adding liquor to the discussion would probably do just that.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

Blackkeno
12-02-2002, 20:28
I don't use the internet for domestic whiskey purchases, but I do order from several retailers in addition to Sam's: Wine &amp; Liquor Depot in CA (ask for Howard), Town Wine &amp; Spirits (ask for Elliot). Also, near the back of Malt Advocate they have a list of retailers that carry the magazine. (They are grouped by the number of single malts they have) http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif I've found this list to be very helpful when trying to pick up a new/limited bottling. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif

CL
12-03-2002, 17:16
I understand the OF problem. I live in NC, where OF is not available. But, I was in Huntsville, AL over the holidays and went shopping. I love Old Fitz, but all I could find was the 80 proof at Windmill. ABC Beverages had closed it out and wasn't selling it anymore. (I was looking for the 100 prooof.)

Though, Windmill did have the 12 yo. I didn't want to pay $40 for it, but since they had nothing else I wanted, I did. Based on my memory of the 1849 and the 100 proof, the 12 yo is not worth the Alabama price.

I feel sorry for our Alabama brethren - the booze was certainly expensive there, at least compared to NC prices.

ratcheer
12-03-2002, 17:18
Well, I told you! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
Tim

CL
12-03-2002, 17:20
Really? AAA 10 yo in NC? I haven't seen it. Only the 10 star.

Unfortunately, the state price list isn't clear, but I have only seen the 10 star in my local store (a large one).

NC Price List (http://http://www.ncabc.com/reports/PB112202.pdf)

CL
12-03-2002, 17:20
You sure as hell did! But, that didn't stop me from trying! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif

hollywood
12-03-2002, 17:31
I have to ditto Rat! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif You guys just don't know how lucky you are! If I had kids...they would be in huge trouble...college tuition would be out of the question, because it would cut into my booze coinage! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif I couldn't afford putting them through the University of Alabama and have my vices too. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif See ya, H'wood http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif

cornsqueezins
12-03-2002, 21:19
Yeah, sadly, Huntsville doesn't have the greatest selection to choose from. I've also found Windmill to be pricey.

But if price is not a problem, check out Great Spirits next time you're in town. They have some hard to find items from time to time but will make you pay dearly for them. (I paid $75 dollars http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif for my first bottle of Bookers only because, at the time, I thought that was the only place it could be found. Man was I wrong, but the damage was already done. Even a fine bourbon like Booker's couldn't take the edge off that gouging!)

I haven't been able to locate Old Fitz 100 anywhere in North Alabama. Old Forester 100 is not easily found and is badly outnumbered by the 86 version....but it's around.

-Troy

ratcheer
12-04-2002, 16:49
You should always be able to get OF 100 at an Alabama ABC store. If they don't stock it, you can fill out a card requesting it.

Tim