View Full Version : Praise from a surprising place

02-10-2003, 19:22
I'd meant to post this when I first saw it, but I was a bit busy at
the time. On a scotch discussion list, (It's always good to spy on
the enemy, eh?) a poll was taken concerning peoples' favorite
distilleries and products.

Perhaps the most famous scotch collector of all time, Ulf Buxrud,
replied. If you read the Malt Advocate, you might recall a cover story
concerning a tasting of "100 years of MacAllan" or some such nonsense,
drawn (If I recall correctly) from his personal collection. In that list
of his favorite scotches, he could not help but mention one non-scotch.

Was that one non-scotch a rum? An Irish? Perhaps a pretentious cognac?

Recall, this is a man who will spend hundreds of dollars on a bottle
without thinking twice about it.

No one asked for non-scotch favorites, but he volunteered it anyhow.
Among the $300 bottles of scotch, the non-scotch that he couldn't
contain his enthusiasm for was:

Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye


02-10-2003, 20:44
Tim, was it the 12 or 13, or is that taking it too far?

02-11-2003, 06:07
I would guess Ulf means the 13yo, since I don't think the 12yo is called "Family Reserve Rye," is it? BTW, Ulf maintains one of the best (if not THE best) whisk(e)y links pages on the web. And, yes, it does include a link to Straightbourbon.com. It's listed as "All About Bourbon" under the Bourbon & Rye section. You can find his links page at:



02-11-2003, 09:48
>was it the 12 or 13, or is that taking it too far?

I had made a note of "VW Fam. Reserve Rye" in my Palm Pilot (which
is an 8 1/2 x 11" piece of paper folded into quarters and shoved into
my back pocket, with the words "palm pilot" scrawled on it), so I
was going off of that when I made the post. I have since looked up
Ulf's original reply:

My top 10 SMW distilleries follows, in no particular order. Behind brackets are
a few versions selected ad hoc from my list of favourites from the the distillery in question.

TOP 10
Ardbeg (DLaing OMC 1972/29 48.4%, G&M CC 1974/18? 40%)
Bowmore (Black Bowmore, all three but preference for the final edition)
Brora (RM 1972/22 cs, G&M CC 1972/ 40%)
Glenfarclas (Standard 25yr)


Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye (1985/16 50%)


I take this to mean that he likes the VW Family Reserve Rye in general,
and the specific bottling that came off the top of his head while making up
the list was a 16 YO version bottled in 1985 at 100 proof (???).


02-11-2003, 17:39
I have to agree about the 13yr fam res rye. its the best of the ryes in my opinion but when i can't find it i'll go with the 12yr old time rye. they sure are the best when your're in the mood for rye imho. Life is Good---den

02-12-2003, 20:43
The Van Winkle rye Ulf was refering to is a 13-year rye bottled at 100 Proof and unchillfiltered. I only sell it in Europe. Since it is not chillfiltered, I feel it is a better whiskey than the 13-year that is sold in the US, even though it comes from the same barrels.
Someday, I hope to bottle the same 100 Proof, unchillfiltered in the US.

02-13-2003, 06:03
Better than the 13yo that is sold in the US? http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif That's pretty hard to imagine! Where is it available in Europe and how do I get there? http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif