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06-02-2003, 11:15
As you're sitting here reading these posts, what are you sipping on? Let us know what you fancy right now! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

06-02-2003, 16:19
Old Charter Proprietor's Reserve http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif


06-02-2003, 20:19
Had a long day at work http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif ....I am unwinding with some EWSB '93 http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif


06-03-2003, 16:12
Ezra B Single Barrel 15 year old. (Barrel 57, bottled 1/02.)

I need to dig out a past copy of The Bourbon Country Reader, in which I know Chuck Cowdery reviewed this bourbon; I just don't remember what he said about it. I hope I'm supposed to like it as much as I do. (I'd bet he also commented on the odd proof -- 99 -- and the fact that it is bottled in St. Louis.)

I know that someone recommended EB15 as an alternative to Elijah Craig 18 year old for those of us who think the EC18 is a bit too dry and woody. The Ezra B certainly fills that bill. I find it very caramel-like, with just a hint of dryness. Mainly, it coats the mouth in a very pleasant way, with none of the repeated, involuntary swallowing that sometimes accompanies the finish of a bourbon that I consider to be overaged.

The only bad thing I can say about it is that the design of the label makes it look off-center, making me fight the urge to try to straighten it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

06-04-2003, 16:40
Ancient Ancient Age 10 Year old. I like it with tonic water or straight up.

06-05-2003, 18:52
ORWV 10yo 107 proof and a Pappy Van Winkle cigar! One hell of a combination http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gifJulian doesn't do anything half-assed. I'll post a review of the cigar in a day or two. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bandit.gif

06-07-2003, 19:20
Baker's 7yo 107, in a nosing glass from Binny's. Methinks I'll get another bottle while Joe C. still has it priced at $24. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif I'm liking this pour!

06-07-2003, 19:45
Pappy 20. Man, this stuff is absolutely spectacular! I'm really looking forward to the (re)introduction of the 23 in December!

06-07-2003, 22:37
Weller Centennial for me right now http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif. Although I love it http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif, it doesn't seem as great as the bottle I bought in '94 http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif. Has the bourbon changed or is my recent experience with VW 107 10yo http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif influencing me?

06-08-2003, 06:57
Not to mention that the 23 coming out this December is a 23 year version of the wheater. The past 23 year old expression was more rye based. This December's 23 should be spectacular! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif To all of Julian's products... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

06-08-2003, 09:46
Let's see, Four Roses Single Barrel in August or so, 2 Lots of Old Forester Birthday Bourbon on Sept. 2nd, More Stagg , something from Barton, and a Christmas gift from Julian. Wow! This year is shaping up well! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smoke.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

06-08-2003, 10:37
A fine fall crop is on the horizon, indeed!

06-08-2003, 11:38
I'm enjoying a pour of WT 101/8yr. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif Went to Canada last week and bought this bottle at the duty free shop. $17 for a 1 liter bottle and they gave me a bottle of Wild Turkey BBQ sauce as a bonus. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif I like the WT101, good rich
flavor with a long finish. Haven't tried the BBQ sauce yet.

06-08-2003, 15:50
Wild Turkey 101 in a Glencairn blender's glass with a gurgle http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif of water. (Note: A gurgle is the amount of water that flows from a half-full Arrowhead Pure Mountain Spring Water dispenser during the time it takes to say the word "gurgle". If I were a slow-talking Kentuckian, I'd probably go with a splash, instead. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif)

Am I just in an extraordinarily bourbon-receptive mood today, or does this concoction taste as fine as any WT bottling I've ever tasted?

In the past I was put off by the metaphor "unlocked" to describe the effect on flavor when adding water to bourbon. The word just didn't seem descriptive enough to be convincing. Nevertheless, I have learned by experimenting that there are times when I enjoy a bourbon more with some water added. (Am I headed down the road to becoming a Basil Hayden's drinker? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif)

It still seems counterintuitive to me to think of dilution leading to more flavor. So, what gives? I'm thinking that sometimes there's just too much flavor for our taste buds to handle and that adding water reduces the intensity to a level that is compatible with our taste and aroma sensors.

Similar situations exist with our other senses. Music can be too loud (well, for adults, anyway); light can be too bright for comfortable reading; a touch can be painful if it is so heavy that it becomes a blow.

As with our other senses, the level of intensity that tastes good won't be the same for everyone. Here's to drinking it the way you enjoy it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

06-08-2003, 20:07
It still seems counterintuitive to me to think of dilution leading to more flavor. So, what gives? I'm thinking that sometimes there's just too much flavor for our taste buds to handle and that adding water reduces the intensity to a level that is compatible with our taste and aroma sensors.

Dave, it is my understanding that it is not simply a matter of dilution. The articles I recently referred to reading several years ago concerning single malt scotch and water said that adding water to whiskey results in the release of esters and other aromatics. The implication was that this release does not occur when tasting uncut whiskey.

I am not a chemist, so I have no direct knowledge of what I'm saying, but the source I took it from seemed to be knowledgeable. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bs.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif


06-10-2003, 17:20
I haven't been a big fan of Baker's in the past, but it was mighty fine about a week ago. I was in Atlanta for Supercomm. I had dinner with a young cousin of mine on Wed night. We started out at Fogo de Chao (excellent Brazilian restaurant - the experience is worth a whole thread in the off topic forum) with lots of meat and a bottle of wine.

We ended up the evening at the Park Tavern overlooking Piedmont Park and the Buckhead skyline. Four Baker's later, I must say I had a wonderful time swapping family stories and getting to know my younger cousin. Thanks to the large meal, I only had a pleasant buzz and a sound sleep that night.

06-10-2003, 17:22
A weller 12yo and a Weller Centennial for comparison. Two good quality bourbons, each with their strong points. I will post a formal copmparison in a couple of days, but I think for the money, Weller 12yo is the better bet http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif. YMMV

06-10-2003, 17:26
I spoke earlier of being in Atlanta last week. On Tuesday night, I shot some pool at Smith's Old Bar with an old friend of mine who has moved to Atlanta. I brought along a co-worker who was also working the trade show. We all had a great time.

I suggested Joey D's Oak Room for dinner as I had heard here at SB.com that it has a great bourbon selection. I offered to buy the first round. I ordered 20 yo Pappy. I was shocked when my previously non-bourbon drinking friends said they were inspired by me and ordered the same - neat in a snifter!. I did not say a word to them about the Pappy being $11/glass. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

My co-worker really enjoyed his glass. I may have found a new bourbon buddy. My friend said he had to drive and didn't finish his. I obliged and finished it off. I'd say a win-win in both cases. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I later told them about the price and we had a good laugh. I jokingly suggested that next time they wanted to experiment, they should warn me up front. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

06-10-2003, 18:02
For the first time in four years, I am out of ORVW 15 yo. None in the bunker. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif But, there's a very good reason for that. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I was attending a neighbor's surprise 40th birthday party this past Saturday. The joke, though, was on me, my wife, and another couple. The surprise birthday party was a disguise for a 20th wedding anniversary party for my wife and I and the other neighboring couple. Yep, we were definitely surprised.

So, I figured this was a night to celebrate and had my kids run over a nearly full bottle of ORVW 15 yo. (My first thought was GTS, but at 137 proof, I didn't think that would be a kind thing to do to the other guests who wanted to share.) I behaved myself and paced myself quite well, but, alas, the bottle, even though it was hidden behind the host's JB white, didn't last the night. I didn't care, I can always buy more. The best part was that I heard that an s-word neighbor tried the ORVW and fell in love with it. Another convert? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

We all had a great time. The wives wore their bridesmaid's dresses and the husbands wore suits. Lucky me - I couldn't dress up cuz it was a surprise - I was comfy in the geek's business uniform - a polo and khakis. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

The local (relatively) small town paper covered the event. The reporter hung with us for four hours! Is that small town? or did she need a life? or were we that much fun? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif The article is supposed to be in the paper tomorrow (Wed). If the article is online, I'll post a link.

06-10-2003, 19:21
Darn right, we expect pics, press, all the bells and whistles, CL. Congratulations!! Toasting you with VOB, tonight!!

06-13-2003, 22:43
Tonight Kentucky Spirit. A robust flavored single barrel and at a (suprisingly smooth) 101 proof! An exquisite experience, not for the "faint of heart" YUMMY!!

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gifTomC http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

06-14-2003, 06:39
Well, it was last night ... but we had company and I couldn't hang out on the computer.

Four Roses Single Barrel. This stuff has an incredibly distinct flavor profile. Very tasty, but I switched to beer after a couple ounces. I could (and probably would) drink the FRSB till the party reached it's inevitable conclusion http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/falling.gif

06-14-2003, 08:39
Last night: Manhattans made with Wild Turkey Rye.

06-14-2003, 12:53
This afternoon I was trapped for the second weekend in a row, in a thunderstorm. Last week on the Yamaha Seca, this week on the Buell. Again, when I finally got home, the rain had stopped and Patty said, "How'd you get so wet?" I poured out my boots, poured a Buffalo Trace and drank till the wrinkles were out of my feet. Took off the chill. I gotta remember to carry my rainsuit http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif

06-14-2003, 16:52
Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye 13yo. I am getting dangerously close to proclaiming a new favorite whiskey http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif. I will, however hold off on that declaration until the end of this bottle, say probably Tuesday http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif, to make sure it's not just an infatuation, a passing fad, a phase mind you; but I doubt it.

06-14-2003, 17:17
Well I have in hand my 12 yo VanWinkle Rye Manhattan. Nice very nice. Of course if there's a way to screw it up I'll find it, Well not exactly but I did use a few drops each of 3 different bitters that I use. ( Peychard, Angostura, Orange bitters) I suppose if I want to compare this to my strongest recollection of a Manhattan I should use Angostura only . It's no worse for wear, I'm not going to pour it out and it is easily the best I've had. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

06-14-2003, 18:03
Re: Bitters. See section of the Esquire write-up on Manhattans and bitters.

Shake well with cracked ice: (Some insist that a proper Manhattan must be stirred, so as to prevent "clouding" or undue fraternization between the whiskey and the vermouth; Esquire says, let 'em mingle.)

2 oz good rye
1 oz Italian vermouth
2 dashes Angostura bitters

Strain into in chilled cocktail glass and garnish with twist or, of course, Maraschino cherry (which is subject to the same challenge re: purity as adding an olive to a Martini).

Of course, human beings, being human beings, can never leave well enough alone. Here, then, are the obligatory variants.

First, a few you can make by monkeying around with the bitters: lose the Angostura and pitch in a splash of Amer Picon and it's a Monahan; a splash of anisette and it's a Naragansett; two dashes of cherry brandy and a dash of absinthe and you've got a McKinley's Delight. Leave a dash of the Angostura in, add a dash of orange bitters and three dashes of absinthe: a Sherman.

Or you can tinker with the vermouth. Replace half the Italian vermouth with French for a so-called Perfect Manhattan. Equal parts of rye, French vermouth and Italian vermouth: a Jumbo. Make that with bourbon: a Honolulu (no bitters at all in those last two). Cut the Italian vermouth entirely and make it half bourbon and and half French vermouth: a Rosemary. To turn that into a Brown University, just add a couple dashes orange bitters. Coming almost full circle, if you make your classic two-to-one Manhattan with French vermouth instead of Italian and a dash of Amer Picon and one of Maraschino, you're in Brooklyn. And there are more--the Rob Roy, for one, but we gotta stop somewhere.

06-14-2003, 18:18
And I'm on my third 13 yo Van Winkle Rye Manhattan. I used Angostura bitters and Gallo sweet vermouth, and had to add a cherry... from a jar I keep in the fridge always soaking in bourbon. What kind of bourbon? Well, since I read a long time ago about Bobby always keeping some bourbon soaked cherries around, I thought it would only be right that when I did it to use Stagg. So let's just say that this is the best Manhattan I have had! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

06-14-2003, 18:30
Gee Mark , I don't know what to say....... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I have mine in some of Mr. Russells' finest, They go fairly quick, I think George T would do them proud! I would like another but I cut myself off, of course that could change too. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

06-14-2003, 23:01
Tonight I went front porch sippun' on the first decent night in forever, with a rather copious (sic??) glass of AAA 10 year. . . .aaaaah summer is FINALLY here. . .

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gifTomC http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

06-15-2003, 23:06
I am getting dangerously close to proclaiming a new favorite whiskey .

Well here's mine. Tonight I had another small pour of my exquisite Eagle Rare 17 and if someone held an assault rifle to my head and demanded a favorite whiskey from me, this is what I would declare. (thats about the only way you will get a declared favorite outta me anymore, except maybe "whats in my glass right now").

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gifMMMMMMmmmmmmm. . . . http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Jeff, are you . . . possoibly. . . .implying that there could be something (*GASP*) even slightly better than the Stagg!?!?!? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif. SHOCKING!!!! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

06-19-2003, 23:28
The last few drops in my bottle of Wild Turkey Rare Breed. If there is a quicker way to bring a tear to a mans eye I am not sure I know it. I now have no more Rare Breed or Russells Reserve left now!! BooHoo! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif All kidding aside from the standard 101 bottling on up it is hard to argue that anyone makes more consistantly outstanding whiskey (dare I say, In the WORLD!!) than the fine folks at Wild Turkey. Thank goodness for them http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif!


06-20-2003, 14:58
Old Forester Birthday Bourbon. It is awesome, maybe the very best. I splurged with a big drink of it because I just found a new bottle at $4 off. So, I now have two full bottles in reserve.

06-20-2003, 15:05
I totally agree, Tom! In addition to the OFBB I just got today, I also got a new bottle of Russell's Reserve at $2 off. So, I am set for a while. I have an open and two new bottles of OFBB, a new bottle of RR, and an open and a new bottle of RB.

I try to never run out of Rare Breed. I am going to change my longtime stance, though, and knock it down from #1 all-time favorite. I now rate RB as tied for #1 with Old Forester Birthday Bourbon. And, I had made that decision before I logged on to sb.com and saw that quote you gave.


06-22-2003, 15:37
Jeff's fave - Weller 12 yo, from my May trip to L'ville. I love this stuff. When I return to L'ville in July for a wedding, I am buying several 1.75L of this stuff. I will be driving this time and will have the room for a haul. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

BTW, Jeff's other fave and my former daily pour - Old Forrester 100 - has fallen off my short list. I don't know why it just doesn't taste as good as it used to. It seems too harsh now. This is a shame because I can get OF 100 in NC.

BTW, my "what are you drinking now?" last week was WT RB and GTS. I was on vacation at Lake Gaston in NC/VA. (I never did get to a VA ABC store.) I bought WT RB in NC and had brought along the GTS for good measure. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

06-23-2003, 16:27
I don't know why it just doesn't taste as good as it used to

You know, I had the same experience with my last bottle of OF100. Seemed rather hot and harsh. I thought it might have just been that day, but I tried some again a couple nights later and I had the same experience. I hope it's a bad batch and they're not messing with the formula. Mabe that's what happens when you pull too many of the "honey barrels" out of the mix to make the premium stuff (i.e. birthday Bourbon and Woodford Reserve).

06-23-2003, 20:09
My last two bottles have been hot and harsh. Until your comments, I had thought my taste buds had changed. Now, I am not so sure.

I first noticed the difference two bottles ago. Because of the "different" taste, I didn't drink the first bottle very often and it lingered on the shelf for a while. I finally finished it and then got a second bottle. I was hoping that my "phase" was over, but the second bottle had the same heat.

I had been thinking that the most likely reason that I thought OF100 was hot was because lately I have been drinking more mellow and/or more smooth bourbons. I bought several new bottles in Chicago in April and in L'ville in May (Old Fitz BIB, Old Charter Classic 90, OCPR, Old Weller Centennial, Old Weller 12 yo, more ORVW, etc.). Maybe that's it. Who knows? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

06-23-2003, 20:58
Mabe that's what happens when you pull too many of the "honey barrels" out of the mix to make the premium stuff (i.e. birthday Bourbon and Woodford Reserve).

I don't have any numbers but I think that effect would be about the same as pulling 2 cents out of 20 bucks. ( negligible) Besides they should be filling their Woodford warehouses with pot still and one would think the Old Forester taken to L&G has stopped. Birthday is such a small amount it isn't even a blip on the radar screen. BF should have as much whiskey aging as most any one else ( Barton , HH, Four Roses, I would think they would have less than BT or Beam) .

06-24-2003, 13:19
I'm sure you're right Bobby, but something seems to have changed. Definitely not the same bourbon that I once proclaimed my favorite (BS - Before Stagg). I just hope they don't go tinkering with a good thing. And who really knows for sure what they will end up doing with WR. If they really are going to try and keep the flavore profile the same, that might call for mixing some pre and post pot still whiskey. I'm guessing here. Right now I'll just chalk it up to a bad batch. Are there batch numbers on the OF bottles? I haven't noticed.

06-24-2003, 18:42
I haven't got to a stinker bottle of OF yet. I will think that that's possible. I can't see what they might gain by screwing around with Old Forester. In the book Nothing Better In The Market. They made it clear that at that time at least the quality of OF was guarded closely . In fact they even cut a dealer off for 2 years just for selling OF below the suggested price. I know we all look for the good deal and I think the market can take care of itself to some degree. Don't know about batch numbers , there should be a julian date somewhere, maybe the cases.

06-25-2003, 06:38
Quick Old Forester FYI for the Kansas/Missouri/Nebraska bourbonia members.

O.F. has a rebate going on for us right now (maybe the rest of ya, too, for all I know, but the neck-hanger lists these states), and it ends next week. I just bought a 1.75L of O.F. 86 on sale at Royal Liquors in KC for $17.99, the $3 rebate will drop that price to $14.99. ~ $7 for a 750 at that rate, and mighty hard to beat at that price.

06-26-2003, 18:44
Elijah Craig 12yo. One of the staples of my cabinet. This ranks up there with Weller 12yo for the best bourbon value award. I think 12 years is when bourbon really transforms into something special. There are great younger bourbons of course (i.e. Kentucky Spirit, Rare Breed), but most of my favorites are upperclassmen: Stagg, EC 12 &18, Weller 12yo, ER 17, OCPR 13yo, Pappy 20 & 23, etc.

06-27-2003, 16:54
Henry Mckenna Single Barrel 10 Years Old, Bottled In Bond. You don't hear a whole lot about this bottling on here but I found one in NH for like $16, so I thought I was a reasonable risk to take a crack at. It is rather good in a workmanlike way, i like that it is 100 proof that is the strongest Heaven Hill whiskey I have tried. It is darker and richer and has a little more of a fuller wooden taste t it than the EWSB's I have tried, but it is definately an HH bottling. Good over a coupla ice cubes, I am glad I bought it.


06-27-2003, 19:32
In my younger days (early 70's), Henry McKenna was one of my favorite bourbons. Not single barrel, of course. That being 30 years ago, I can't give any meaningful comments, other than that I really liked it and bought it, often.

I haven't seen any in years, though.


06-28-2003, 00:34
Take a look at my first impression (http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=General&Number=15720&F orum=All_Forums&Words=henry%20mckenna&Match=Entire %20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main= 15065&Search=true#Post15720) of this bourbon, and tell me how your impression compares. (I haven't revisited this one yet. So many bourbons; so little time and liver.)

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/usflag.gif

06-28-2003, 03:35
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gifHi everyone,
This Henry Mckenna Single Barrel 10 Years Old, Bottled In Bond,sounds great.But I don't think it was never sold in Japan,can somebody post a picture of this bottle(or Jug)for me.If I can't drink one I will imagine it.

There are three Henry Mckennas you can get in Japan right now,two are from Heaven Hill,one 80p clear bottle,other is in a Jug 80p,it says it comes from Bardstown.The third bottle comes in a same clear bottle as the first but on the bottom it will say Lawrenceburg,80p and is made by the Four Roses Distillery,they are both light but good bourbon,I keep all three around me. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drinking.gif


06-28-2003, 05:36
Koji, w/o retaking a pic of just the bottle... here (http://home.si.rr.com/paradox7/10.JPG) is a pic where the bottle is shown in the background, you can see it with a green foil top, and a label on the front saying Henry...

06-28-2003, 07:59
Yeah thats sounds about right, noting that barrel presence seems a little more noticable in the HMSB (LOL http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif) than the other two.


06-28-2003, 21:55
Tonight, booker's! It is good and suprisingly sweet, but overall it gives the impression of bourbon mixed with rocket fuel!


06-30-2003, 18:04
Tonight It is a tall glass of Ezra B Single 15.... after a long long long day of playing the wannabe farmer on my lil' 20 acre place this is something to come home to ... only thing better is ORVW.... But this bottle has been open to long so I finished it off if a second is needed then VW will more than do , ..it's fine stuff ,,,
Bill G. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

06-30-2003, 19:03
The last few nights it has been anything will less than two drinks left in the bottle. Damn, the recycling garbage men will wonder what fun I had this week when they pick up the glass bin from my curb! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I just took a trip to the recycling bin to check it out empties of

* WL Weller 12 yo
* Old Fitz BIB
* Wathens
* ORVW 10 yo

Can you guess that I am cleaning out the cabinet making room for my next trip to L'ville in 10 days? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

For the record, tonight it was a drink of Wathens after dinner and then a drink of ORVW 10 yo just a few minutes ago. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

06-30-2003, 19:25
Bill: For the last two years, Randall's has sold the Ezra Brooks S.B. for $15 a bottle during their annual January sale. Let's hope George does it again in 2004!

06-30-2003, 19:27
I was thinking the same thing BP. That's when and where I got my last bottle, and really took a liking towards it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

07-01-2003, 11:22
Hey if you are up for a bit of a road trip, New Hamphire state liquor stores sell Ezra B quite reasonably ($18.99 and no added tax!). I asked at the store in Nashua I went to and they said it is widely availabel across the state.


07-01-2003, 17:17
While we're on an Ezra pricing kick, I must chime in that I observed this past weekend in Seattle that Old Ezra 7yo 107 sells at Washington State LCB stores for $13.95, including all taxes. Old Ezra's a fine bottling to have around at all times!

07-01-2003, 18:34
Not a good day ,,,,loss the fuel pump on the ol' truck .. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif
A Double of Ezra B, 15 year , just can not bring my self to polute ORVW 10 or even the 15 year with a shot of ginger ale ....
Bill G.

07-01-2003, 18:52
Bummer, Bill. In one year not so long past, I lost the fuel pump on my Alfa Milano the very week after the extended warranty died. Of course, replacing a fuel pump on an Alfa Milano requires no less than a full day of shop time, so I was not a happy camper.

I'm pouring an Ezra S.B. to you tonight. Hope tomorrow's a better day.

07-01-2003, 19:18
One positive of being in Ohio, the state price on Old Ezra 7/107 is a damn fine $11.95, all taxes included. It is often my everyday pour!!


07-01-2003, 19:20
Amen to that, I will pour my last drink of Ezra B in your name as well.


07-01-2003, 19:50
At $11.95, Old Ezra has few peers in the everyday pour category. I'd better visit Ohio again soon!

07-02-2003, 13:10
I recently finished my first bottle of rebel yell and I was very pleased. The smell was very intriguing. I couldn't keep my nose out of the glass. My wife thought I was a nut.

Just started on my first Old Overholt. Very nice over ice.

I have always been a loyal Tennessee whiskey drinker but am now doing research in Ky.


07-02-2003, 13:25
Today I had a taste in the third of the three bottlings I picked up while on vacation, OGD 114. It is definately a good bit drier and spicier than most of the other bourbons I have, but I dont get any of the rockiness in the finish (maybe a little on the tongue) that some people do. I was moving away from having my bourbon on the rocks, but this one (as well as the Henry McKenna SB & Booker's I got on my trip) seems well suited to it. I bet it wwould make a great manhattan, I might just have to try it http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif.


07-02-2003, 14:07
Wild Turkey Rye from my Wild Turkey shot glass, neat.

It lacks the smoothness and subtlety of the best in class (do I need to ID it?), but it is quite drinkable neat, perhaps more so than WT 101. (To my taste, I can't say the same about Jim Beam rye or Old Overholt.) It also has enough pungence to make its presence known when mixed with ginger beer.

Someday as an experiment, only one time, I promise, I will try VWFR rye with ginger. My guess is that the ginger would overpower the rye.

If it turns out that way, would that make Wild Turkey rye my all-around favorite? Probably not, because I drink rye neat about five-to-one over mixed.

BTW, I managed to break the cork of the WT rye bottle. I have just a little nubbin of cork that barely closes the opening without falling through. That's never happened to me before.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

07-02-2003, 18:01
EC 12 yo. I was formerly in the camp that that did not care for this bourbon. But, when I was in B'town in early May, I had a glass in the presence of our own Bobby C and Bettye Jo. How could I not order a HH product after Bettye Jo had given my family the red carpet treatment? Bobby provided the same royal treatment, but he doesn't work at HH. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif That drink that day tasted mighty fine, the first time I had liked EC 12 yo.

Today, I bought a bottle of EC 12 yo ($14.15 before tax). I still like it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I've been looking for a new daily pour since Old Forrester 100 fell off my short list. I think I have found it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Call me converted. I now really like the EC 12 yo flavor. It no longer seems medicinal. It seems rich and complex.

There is one difference, though. Being summer time, I have changed over to "one cube only" in the snifter glass. Maybe this had something to do with it. I am at my parents' house in WV tonight, so I only have one snifter. When I get home to NC, I may need to do a side to side of EC neat and EC with a cube.

07-02-2003, 19:34
I'm also enjoying a glass od EC12. Unlike you I have enjoyed this one from the beginning, so I'm glad you have come around http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

I think you'll agree with me that with EC12 and Weller 12, you're covered for most of your daily needs http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

07-03-2003, 23:20
Tonight Blantons in honor of Paradox's promotion!!


07-04-2003, 07:27
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif I started the night with a pour of Stagg, but after that it was Blanton's all the way as well. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

07-04-2003, 07:27
Finally managed to get my hands on some George T. Stagg!!
Happy 4th July chaps.

07-04-2003, 14:28
Hell, just finding some is cause for celebration! Enjoy http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

07-04-2003, 14:57
Tonight Blantons in honor of Paradox's promotion!!

Mark's promotion? Lord, hide your stash and lock up your women! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif

07-04-2003, 23:59
Blanton's (barrel no.63, warehouse H, Rick No. 6) 132.7 proof, unchillfiltered. I picked this up today at a gun show because I thought (correcty) it would be a great item to open for Independence Day. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif The nose is incredibly complex and evolves much more than the standard Blanton's. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif The palate is a bit hot compared to Stagg, but not so much as Booker's. I intend to follow this with some Stagg. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

07-05-2003, 04:33
I picked this up today at a gun show...

I definitely picked the wrong state to live in! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif
In Nevada you can buy rare bourbons at a GUN SHOW!?!? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bandit.gif

07-05-2003, 06:49
Having a break from drinking for now. I'm being a good boy at the moment and quaffing my "vitamin" drink. Some of you may have heard of it - George Dickle.
Gives me a wet nose and shiny coat to boot. Good grief I feel great!

07-05-2003, 08:07
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07-05-2003, 09:53
I was wondering if anyone would question that... I actually had to order this bourbon from Europe. The retailer's courier would not ship to Nevada because I could not produce the "required" liquor license or import permit. I talked with the Nevada Department of taxation who directed me to the code section which clearly exempted my personal consumption from these requirements. I emailed the retailer the link to the appropriate Nevada Revised Statutes, the email address of the contact person and her phone number. The still said they "couldn't" do it. I had them send the shipment to a friend of mine in Southern California a couple weeks ago. He called me this week to say a friend of his would be doing a booth at a gun show here in Las Vegas this weekend and could bring the shipment. So I went to his booth as he was setting up, and "picked up" my shipment. Long story, but I figure for Blanton's at cask strength (on Independence Day) it was worth it!

07-06-2003, 17:55
Old Rip Van Winkle Old Time Rye, 12 years old.

This came in my Binny's order about a month ago. I had forgotten about it until it came to hand as I was rooting around in the box of styrofoam (TM) to see what was left of that shipment.

Is this really younger than the VWFR 13 year-old rye? It tastes much more barrel-like than the 13, IIRC. I'm not sure which I like better, and I guess it doesn't really matter, since the supply of the 12 is supposedly now exhausted. (Didn't someone here say that recently?)

In any case, chalk up another one (excellent whiskey, that is) for Julian.

Yours truly,
Dave "Had four drinks; gotta stop now" Morefield

07-06-2003, 18:03
Yes Dave, as far as I know the 12 year is all gone and not being bottled anymore. I think I'll have to do a side by side one of these weekends for both these fine rye's. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

While I'm here, a hefty pour of Wild Turkey 12 year. The perfect pour to finish off the perfect weekend! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/usflag.gif

07-06-2003, 18:55
"Good lord what are you drinking? It looks like a glass of treacle!" This is how I was greeted tonight, by the girl I live with.

"It's a glass of Stagg my dear."

"Oh so after waiting so long to get hold of it, you are straight into it aren't you!" she said/shouted.
Fair enough, because she did find my credit card reciept, so there is no bluffing her with the price. (What I paid for Stagg in England would make you guys shudder, trust me!)

"Smells like rum!" she said before sloping off to bed.

What so I'm the bad guy? After visiting this site and listening to those that know, I have to agree that the hype is true. STAGG RULES!! (Remember I am someone who does not run with the crowd. I like Makers, and have little time for Knob Kreek, EWSB, Elijah Craig, and other forum faves.)

Because I live I England I am miles/months behind you guys, however, now I have tasted Stagg I know what you were all on about.
It does live up to the hype but I can't say why - other than it is strong, CRISP, clean, and even better than http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif Rock Hill Farms and Bookers.
It ain't for pussies though!

Have fun guys - I know I am.

07-06-2003, 20:23
It ain't for pussies though!

Indeed! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

07-06-2003, 23:01
The perfect pour

Tonight i meandered through every luxuriant drop of my Glass of Eagle Rare 17 year. . .


07-09-2003, 17:24
Ancient Ancient Age 10yo. I am determined this week to clear out all of the "1 drink left" bottles that are cluttering my cabinet and this is my first victim. Nice medium body with hints of oak and sandalwood in the nose. Taste is nutty with some vanilla for good measure. Finish is slightly warm, but relatively smooth. Great value bourbon http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

Of course my housekeeping will be confounded by my desire to replace these empty bottles, so I guess the only thing to do is buy a bigger cabinet http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

07-09-2003, 18:36
OK, 1 hour later and a glass of Old Fitz 1849. This is a pretty good bourbon for the price, but I prefer the BIB and it's a couple dollars less.

Getting a little of that notorious acetone http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bs.gif in the nose along with a little honey and camphor. Taste is slightly astringent, but with some nice cedar undertones and a floweriness I can't put my finger on. Finish is a little hot for my liking. I probably won't replace this one as a standard.

07-10-2003, 02:45

So you're saying the 1849 finishes hotter than the BIB? How curious. I've found it to be quite the opposite. I agree, though, that the BIB has a fuller, less quirky flavor on the nose and palate.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

07-10-2003, 04:55
My own experiences with these two bourbons match up more closely with Dave's experience.

I normally keep a bottle of each open in my cabinet. I don't have them very often though because I can't buy them locally, so I take it easy on them to make them last. I don't stock them in the bunker, because they are good, not great bourbons. But, they are both go to bourbons when I want a relaxing, easy drink.

But, like Jeff, I think I will be letting one of them go. I need more room to fit that 1.75 liter of WL Weller 12 yo I plan to get this weekend in L'ville. ;-) I think I will drop the 1849, even though I like it's flavor a little better, because the BIB is cheaper, it comes in a 1 liter bottle, and its bottle takes up less room. (Sounds like politics in the liquor cabinet, doesn't it?)

07-10-2003, 17:37
I am in L'ville for the weekend. I drove from my parents' house in WV. My wife and kids flew in from NC. While I was waiting for their plane to land, I checked into the Galt House. I thought I had a great rate at $99/night. But, the first room was not cleaned. The second room was next to the ice machine. So, I called the front desk again and am now in a large suite for the same $99 price. ;-)

But, anyhow, while waiting for my wife's delayed plane, I headed up to the 25th floor bar with 125 bourbons. Damn, not open until 5 pm (it was 3:30 pm). I headed down to the lobby bar. Really poor. 5 scotches, 1 Canadian whisky, 1 Irish whisky, 1 Kentucky whisky, 1 mint julep, and only four bourbons, the best of which was Woodford Reserve, which is what I started with. I am already a fan of this bourbon, but I rarely buy it because of the price/value ratio.

After I picked up the family from the airport, the wife and I went to the 25th floor bourbon bar. I had Ezra Brooks 15 yo based on the comments here recently. Very good!

Then we ate at Deke's for dinner and I had a Kentucky Spirit to go with it. Honestly, I don't understand the hype, but I will give this one another chance.

Tommorrow it's a Maker's Mark tour followed by dragging the kids to the Getz to see their great grandfather's stuff. Then tomorrow night the wedding activities for the weekend start (my cousin's wedding).

07-10-2003, 20:36
What a week , I have been covering for vaction time since Sunday night , but also trying to get work done at the farm , ,,, well Wednesday morning my wife dropped the kids off at work , (we work for the same company , me nights her days ) and I was going to down to the farm ... well less than a half a mile from home I had a women with her two grandchildren in a 03' Honda Accord cut out in front of me from a stop sign , ,, I had time to see her start out and was on the breaks but we still hit , .. my front drivers side corner on her drivers side door ,, http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/hot.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif... I have a witness that say she pulled out in front and are amazed that for the impact there was not more damage , I am still driving mine such as it is (no airbag deployment ) and no one hurt ,, thats the best part of this mess , ...
Accident report by the police has her saying she did not see me http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif.... big blue Ram full size ? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif
Well after all the run around , today after work and before I went to sleep this morning it was a TALL glass of ORVW 107 , 15yr straight up http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif....
Once more all is fine and right with the world , Aaaaahhhhh.....

Bill g.
Just glad no one was hurt ,

07-10-2003, 20:41
Glad no one was hurt, Bill. A Stagg might have made a bigger dent, so you are a fortunate Boubonian.

07-10-2003, 20:50
The wife and kids konked out about 10:30 pm, so I hit the Galt House's 25th floor bar for some samples. They have a deal where you can get 1/2 oz of three bourbons. They give you a placard to write your tasting notes. The backside has tips on how to taste bourbon.

I chose to go for the unusual. I chose Rowan's Creek (100.1, 12 yo), Noah's Mill (114.3, 15 yo), and Corner Creek (88, 8 yo). For my second round, at the barkeep's suggestion to try more from the same distiller, I chose KY Pride (90 10 yo), KY Vintage (90, no age statement, but at least 10 based on the distilled date given), and Pure KY XO (107, 14 yo).

I was too relaxed and lazy to do any formal tasting notes. In fact, I need alot more than 1/2 oz and sometimes more than one night to judge a bourbon adequately. But, I will say of the first batch, the Noah's Mill was the most interesting, but I wonder if this was due to it's higher proof (114). Of the second batch, the KY Vintage surprised me with a stronger aroma and more robust taste than its 90 proof would indicate.

I will say, though, that none of these bourbons floored me tonight. But given my relaxed mood and the sensory overload trying to assess the 9 different bourbons I sampled today may have contributed to that.

Imagine having 9 different bourbons in one day and not getting a buzz. Sheesh, I am getting too serious about this stuff.

P.S. The Galt House is not what my older relatives think it is. This place has seen better days. It needs a complete renovation. The last straw was the pool overlooking the river was not open. So, we are checking out Sat morning instead of staying through Monday. We found a different place to stay. It's not downtown, but it's new and closer to relatives and very close to Liquor Barn on Hurstbourne, and close to Harper's on Hurstbourne (which has a very good bourbon selection).

07-10-2003, 20:52
Sorry to hear about the troubles, but I think you took appropriate actions afterwards. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

07-11-2003, 05:08
Since your're in town why not head to Maker's Mark on Saturday morning and run with us in the 3rd annual Distillery 5K?

07-11-2003, 14:53
Because I didn't read your post in time. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif Too bad, it would have been cool to meet ya, even if you were all sweaty.

Today's original plans were to head to the Getz and then to Maker's Mark, but on Friday night the kids negotiated a stay of execution. (They thought they would be too bored to go to Maker's Mark and didn't want the extra time in the car.)

But, I had a trick up my sleeve. I snuck in a tour at Four Roses on the way back from the Getz to L'ville. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif See the Distillery Trips forum for my report.

07-11-2003, 18:04
I am having my first taste of Weller 19yo http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif I was at Liquor Barn this evening and there was but one lone bottle on the shelf. Well I figured it was now or never so I forked over the $43 and now it's mine. I am initially impressed as I am getting lots of the flavor that I love in the 12yo, but with a nice creamy, buttery texture. Definately getting some barrel notes here that are quite pleasant. Nice and warm on the finish with a lingering presence in the back of the throat. Two thumbs up! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

07-11-2003, 21:12
For my last drink of the night OFBB. Folks I love this stuff. It's a good thing it is not $10 a bottle; I would be in trouble.

07-11-2003, 23:45
Yummy stuff, huh? I am glad you liked it. It seems to me everyone who is a real fan of wheated bourbon should get a chance to try this one.


07-12-2003, 12:08
After a nice stroll in Central Park with my two ladies, I'm enjoying a VOB on the rocks.

07-12-2003, 13:36
OFBB is in my top two, as well. I can't decide if it is number one or number two, though. It is probably number one, I just can't stand the fact that its a limited bottling that will soon be all gone. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif


07-12-2003, 19:59
Imagine having 9 different bourbons in one day and not getting a buzz. Sheesh, I am getting too serious about this stuff.

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif.....You're just a certified bourbon geek like the rest of us misfits! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

07-12-2003, 21:38
OFBB is in my top two, as well. I can't decide if it is number one or number two, though. It is probably number one, I just can't stand the fact that its a limited bottling that will soon be all gone. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif


OFBB is my best "Special bourbon" it is a bit high $$. But worth every penny. I know where I can buy 4 bottles and I think I will do just that.

07-12-2003, 22:51

07-13-2003, 05:59
Wise move: Regardless of how good the two 2003 OFBB bottlings are, you will be glad to have a stash of the 2002. It is, indeed, a fine bourbon and you'll be able to make comparisons with future BB bottlings for years to come, including the two new OFBBs coming in a few months. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/drink.gif

07-13-2003, 15:27
Tom it is a rare and glorious moment when you and I agree anymore. Tonight I'll have another drink in our honor http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

07-13-2003, 16:39
Eagle Rare 101 (aged ten years).

I thought I was ordering ER Single Barrel. My disappointment in not finding what I was hankering for, when I dug into the several-months-old, Sam's shipping box this afternoon, is countered by the fact that I get to try a new bourbon.

The back label contains one allegation of fact that I find interesting, to wit: "In the end, about one barrel in every 37 laid down is judged fine enough to become Eagle Rare."

Does anyone know whether that statement is accurate? If so, then what happens to the other 36 barrels? Do some of them become, let's say, Buffalo Trace? Is the ER single barrel picked from among those one-in-37 barrels?

My first impression of this bourbon is that it shares the cognac-like quality that I get from the ERSB. In addition, on the palate it compares very favorably with the Kentucky Spirit that I had a little earlier this afternoon. (However, the nose is almost non-existent by comparison.) I also note that it is smoother than WT 101, not that I automatically consider that a plus. The finish turns from sweet to bitter to somewhere in between. Fascinating.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

07-13-2003, 16:48
As posted earlier on "What you can do with out ..." it's a BIG glass of ORVW 15yr 107 ,,,, but what was a real eye openner was what my wife said about my bourbon supply /stash
And I quote " I will not say a word about YOUR bourbon I will get you cash , coupons etc , for your drink, just as long as you stay away from MY fabric ...." She is in to quilting and such ,,,, Hmmmm judging from my stock and the stock she has it looks like a shopping run is in ordrer to balance the stock piles ,,,, ? Bourbon War ...? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Bill G,
Got alot of shopping and tasting to do now ... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

07-13-2003, 19:14
Ummm, it sounds to me like you are in trouble. Usually, "I will not say a word...", translates to "You are not going to hear the end of this". http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/skep.gif

Good luck, Tim

07-13-2003, 20:14
Usually, "I will not say a word...", translates to "You are not going to hear the end of this".

Either that, or "I'm going to use this as carte blanche to splurge on EVERYTHING else."

07-14-2003, 17:37
McAfee's Benchmark. Neat. In my J.D. rocks glass.

I don't know why people bash this one. It's cheap. It's drinkable. (I'm not the only reviewer (http://www.greatbourbon.com/mcaffe.html) who thinks so.) It tastes like real bourbon to me. It has a nicer finish than OWR... and palate...and nose.

It's on the light, simple side (I defy anyone to taste exotic flavor elements in this one), but for the $10.99 price it's hard to beat in these parts.

Hell, I may replace this bottle before I replace my nearly empty Kentucky Spirit -- and I could do it four times for the same price.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

07-14-2003, 17:50
Hell, I may replace this bottle before I replace my nearly empty Kentucky Spirit -- and I could do it four times for the same price.

Shhhh, Jeff may hear you! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

07-14-2003, 18:53

07-15-2003, 14:12
Just polished off my first bottle of Van Winkle 13YOFR Rye. Could well be the smoothest whiskey I have ever come across, but I found the finish to be a little short and bland.
I think I may try Wild Turkey Rye sometime in the future, but for the moment back to Maker's Mark.
After a while away from Makers (getting stuck into Stagg, Van Winkle Rye and various Wild Turkey offerings) I can detect a floral, perfume edge to the nose that has escaped me before. Also I can taste lots of white pepper tonight, that again, is a first for me.
Has anyone else had a while away from a fave and noticed a different slant on things on their return?

07-15-2003, 14:22
Has anyone else had a while away from a fave and noticed a different slant on things on their return?

Most definately! As I kept (and still) continue to buy different offerings, my tastes are always changing and becoming more developed. Bottles I used to love, such as Makers Mark, now just don't do much for me. Makers Mark was one of the first 'better' bourbons I bought after drinking JD Black, Beam white etc... Back then it was so smooth and sweet, but since it has taken a place on the back burner to bourbon's I find more complex and unique. Every so often, I must admit, something still makes me go out and buy a small bottle of it for old times sake.

07-15-2003, 15:48
Has anyone else had a while away from a fave and noticed a different slant on things on their return?

You betcha! And it was Maker's Mark! Except for me it was something to do with the barrel char--something that never bothered me before and ever since I tasted it that first time that's ALL I taste. It's a real sooty used-cigarette-butt type of taste that overwhelms the other flavors. YMMV.


07-15-2003, 16:06
Every so often, I must admit, something still makes me go out and buy a small bottle of it for old times sake.

Last summer while staying on the Las Vegas Strip I was absolutely DETERMINED to find a good bourbon for the hotel room. I was somewhat restricted by not having a rental car, and it took a deliberate search to find anything worth drinking. I'll tell you--when you guys talk about there being "no other bourbon in the world", that night Maker's Mark was absolute ambrosia.

07-15-2003, 16:34
If Maker's tastes like used cigarette butts I'm having a pack of 20 tonight!
It's a great change of pace from Stagg and the rest, almost like a "lite bite" as opposed to the main course.
I remember being in Vegas in '96 on leave from the British Army. (We were on exchange with your troops in Fort Lewis.)
I had lost all my money in 30 mins at the blackjack tables and went to drown my sorrows with a couple of mates at a bar called "The Spotted Cow." It was right at the end of the Strip near the Sahara where we were staying. Spike the barman listened to my woes (as he had doubtless done with other people a million times before!) told a couple of funnies and then came the killer blow!!
"Guys, this ones on me!" A couple of large free pours of Wild Turkey later and all did not look so bad.
To explain; I had always watched films from the USA with the all seeing all knowing barman and wondered if it could be true. Could a barman really be as cool as in the movies? Well that day/night Spike was the man and then some!

07-15-2003, 18:58
The last sips of a bottle of Kentucky Spirit. Goodbye old friend, you have served me well.

07-15-2003, 21:59
I had KS today as well, in honor of your post!


07-16-2003, 16:26
Finished off my Blanton's last night and just now finally finished that rancid bottle of Basil Hayden's that was taking up room for WAY too long now... I think now I'll pop open a bottle of Rare Breed . http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

07-16-2003, 21:20
Homemade mint juleps! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif Fantastic!

After I got out of the hospital visiting my Dad, I headed out for a late dinner (9 pm) on Bardstown Road, north of Watterson in L'ville, KY. After dinner, I called up my Grandmother (who is a night owl) and my Aunt and Uncle who are staying at her house.

When I arrived, my Aunt (and Godmother) offered me a mint julep. I declined at first thinking of prefab mint julep mixes. My Uncle told me I wanted to try this. The drinks were wonderful. My Grandmother grows her own mint and makes her own syrup. She boils sugar and water and then adds mint stems to soak overnight. What is left is a syrup that she freezes for the times her favorite grandson http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif comes over.

Even after freezing, the mint seemed so fresh. It immediately took me back to my childhood when my Dad and many of my relatives grew their own mint. I remember as a kid picking leaves and chewing on them for a blast of cool mint.

For the record, the bourbon that graced the mint was Henry McKenna 80 proof. My Uncle told me that my Grandfather liked HK, so my Aunt had brought some to my Grandmother's house.

BTW, while we were sitting around talking, I asked my Grandmother about which Ripys that she and Grandpa were friends with in Lawrenceburg. She said that they were real good friends with Ernie Jr. and Neat Ripy. Ernie ran the JTS Brown distillery (which later was bought by Austin Nichols) where my Grandfather worked for a while after he worked at Old Joe.

The other Ripys that were good friends were Tom (Ernie's brother) and his wife Hazel. Tom ran the Lawrenceburg Transfer trucking company.

My Aunt and Uncle set my Grandmother up with a computer http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif and asked her to document all this history for us. I told her I would help. So, in the coming months, I hope (working in between helping my Mom and Dad) to have alot more Holman Bryant history.

07-17-2003, 08:11

My Grandmother grows her own mint and makes her own syrup. She boils sugar and water and then adds mint stems to soak overnight.

Your Grandmother is a a wise woman... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif That's the real way to make 'em.
I would be interested to hear her version of an Old Fashioned (in another thread, of course... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif). My guess is, she went to the Pendennis Club years ago.
Sorry I missed ya'll when you came thru town. Please send my good wishes to your Daddy.

07-17-2003, 10:20
Finishing off my bottle of Jim Beam Black.

It is too soft for my taste. I like that 101 or better that when you lean in to take a big wiff, your eyes burn. Now THAT'S whiskey...


07-18-2003, 16:47
To celebrate the new price and final bottling of some of the best bourbon still around I'm drinking A.H. Hirsch 16 yo http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif. I really hate to see this one go and know I'll never be able to get it again years from now...

07-18-2003, 18:51
This is a great whiskey, and stocks are limited, but at the price mentioned, it is a remarkable value. We must not forget the 20 year old version, which Sam's still carries too. I have half a bottle that I had purchased (of all places) in Calgary, Alberta. For those willing to lay out what the retailers are asking, it is a real treat. I know some people feel it is too woody, but truly it is not. It is more smoky (char) than woody. To me, woody means too much tannic acid - the Hirsch/Michter's 20 year old has no such edge, just rich smoke (a bit like JD Single in this regard), very concentrated, luscious taste, and (underneath) that unique Michter's taste which is even more evident in the 16 year old version (because younger, thus the keynote is less "disguised"). This is not quite a bourbon taste to my palate and not quite rye - it is just but no less than Michter's of Pennsylvania, which was a unique sour mash whiskey. The 16 year old is a much better value, but the 20 provides a once in a lifetime experience. Some bars still serve it by the shot, I saw the 20 (and 16) Hirsches not long ago at DBA's in New York.

By the way, the Johnnie Walker Blue Label is a very good whisky, but in that neighborhood of money I'd put mine on the Hirsch 20 year old any day. In Johnnie Walker, I feel the less costly (relatively) Gold Label is much better value than the fabled Blue - and frankly better tasting.


07-18-2003, 19:37
Weller 19yo. I'm really growing fond of this one. Figures that once I start to like it, it goes away. But such luck is typical for me http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif I think I'm getting a bottle of Pappy 20 for my anniversary http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif. I'm looking forward to a comparative tasting of the old wheaters.

07-19-2003, 18:25
Old Rip Van Winkle Old Time Rye, 12yo 90 proof. Having my first sips of this one as I write this, and all I can say is, "WOW." I happened upon a local liquor store that I don't often frequent and to my suprise this one lone bottle occupied the shelf. Well of course this was a no-brainer, as it is next to impossible to find. I wish there was more, but I'll take it http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif Rich and smooth flavor with stong apple notes in the nose and lots of vanilla on the palate. I look forward to a comparative tasting with the 13yo very soon. I didn't think any rye could top the 13yo, but maybe...just maybe.

P.S. I also stumbled upon about 5 bottles of Wild Turkey 12yo. When money permits, I plan to make them mine http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smoke.gif

07-19-2003, 18:40
Clogsdon and I started out our visit last Monday with the 12YO VanWinkle Rye. I didn't think to ask him how it compared with the 13. ( What say you, CL?) I have a few 13s Bunkered, But as yet have none open. Somehow I expect the thirteen to be better , but it doesn't have to be. I like the 12 a lot. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

07-19-2003, 19:15
I say the 12 yo rye was excellent. I can't say how it compares to the 13 yo, as I wasn't trying to think about that when I tasted your 12 yo. I wanted just to sip and enjoy.

In fact, since circumstances are keeping me in L'ville for many more days, I think I will have to make some drop in visits to various stores to try to locate some 12 yo rye.

07-19-2003, 19:21
Let me know if you find any and where. This stuff is definately worth an hours drive http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

07-19-2003, 19:45
Hell no. I am going to buy it all. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Oh, alright. If they have extra when I am done, I'll let you know. But for a finder's fee. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

07-19-2003, 20:37
this evening I went to a place none locally as "Fox and Hound"...30 beers on draft with another 30 or so in bottles....much better than average bourbon selection, not great mind you but better than average...had several Bakers ...in my mind the second to Bookers and the clear superior to Basil Haydens and Knob Creek... I wish you all well ........."may every bar have Buffalo Trace"

07-19-2003, 23:45
Is this in Ohio??

and where may I ask is it then??\


07-20-2003, 14:47
It's amazing how differently I approach the bourbon given this week's events with my Dad. Having a small bourbon is a comfort, not as in a crutch or an escape mechanism, but as a simple, quiet enjoyment of one of the simple things in life when so many discomforting and chaotic things are happening around me. At the same time, I could care less whether I ever had bourbon again as my mind is on more important matters with my Dad. It's a contradictory set of feelings.

Anyhow, I had an interesting selection of bourbons last night. After spending a long day with my Dad, I came back to my great uncle's house where I am staying this week. I had a small Wathens before dinner. Damn, it was good.

I then went out to eat dinner with my great uncle. I started with a Woodford Reserve. After having the Wathens, the WR didn't taste very good. It was too thin and bland. (I know many here never cared for WF, but at times, in the past at least, I have enjoyed it when I wanted a simple bourbon.)

So, for the next drink at dinner, I had Old Forrester 86. It blew away it's big brother, WR. It was delectable and nothing like the seemingly off bottles of OF 100 I have had at home in NC recently. Maybe I will try some OF 86 when I get home. The good news is that NC carries that proof in a 1.75L bottle.

07-20-2003, 19:05
I was just out at a restaurant and just tried Bookers for the first time. Possible the sweetest smelling and tasting bourbon I have tried.

07-20-2003, 20:56
While it's been a while since I've done it, many times I have ordered Booker's at a steak house to complement a filet mignon, on expense account, of course. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

I was accustomed to ordering the Booker's on the rocks and letting the ice melt some to cut the proof. I always found Booker's to go well with a steak dinner. It complements the grill flavor.

07-21-2003, 03:37
MurphyDawg..."Fox and Hound" is in North Canton...they had 10 bourbons the last time I was in there...the four in the small batch collection(Bookers,KC,Bakers,BH), the usual JB/JD/Turkey101/Makers plus Wild Turkey Rare Breed and Jack Daniels Single Barrel. As I said not a huge selection like you can get in KY but better than average for small-town Ohio. The bartender has told me that the manager is a S****H drinker who at least appreciates bourbon. (the S****H selection is even better...when was the last time you saw Macallan 12 or Knockando, Ardbeg, Laphroig, Balvenie etc in a draft house?) The nice thing is he doesnt always buy the same bourbons so there may be a different one every once in a while. "a perfect world would have Buffalo Trace in every bar"

07-21-2003, 12:18
right now- Bonded Beam 100 Proof.

Date on the bottle is 9-3-81.

07-24-2003, 23:38
I have found the spring of eternal life. After spending all day with my Dad in the rehab center, I ventured out to the local bars/pubs/restaurants for dinner. Actually, I have done this for over a week at the hospital and its vicinity, but now I am doing in the neighborhood where Dad's rehab facility is located.

I hit the gold mine tonight. I ventured into a place that didn't look like much from the outside, but their sign promised, if I remember correctly, a captivating menu (or something like that). It was Furlongs on Frankfort Avenue in L'ville in the Clifton neighborhood.

I walked in and saw a relatively new place (4 years old) with linen tablecloths and linen napkins. Immediately, of course, I knew this place had either class or attitude. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif But, then I saw the selection behind the bar - I fell in love. To the left of center stage was Ezra Brooks 15 yo SB, Buffalo Trace, Old Forrester, Wild Turkey, and Woodfood Reserve. On the bottom left shelf was Rebel Yell and Ezra Brooks.

To the right of center stage and on the bottom shelf was Jim Beam white, Jim Beam black, and Makers Mark.

At center stage was (drum roll please) Sazarac Rye, Pappy 20 yo, ORVW 12 yo, ORVW Family Reserve Rye, Bookers, Corner Creek, Bakers, Basil Hayden, Knob Creek, Blantons, Jefferson Reserve, EC 18 yo, Sam Houston, Elmer T. Lee SB, Rare Breed, JD SB, Gentleman Jack, and Evan Williams SB.

Wait, the best is yet to come. I ordered Pappy 20 yo, neat, in a snifter, at $9.50. Most of you are familiar with the habit where the bartender lays the snifter sideways and pours until the bourbon reaches the top lip. Shoot, with these snifters, that produced a half full snifter. I was shocked. This was at least two pours' worth, if not three. I happily accepted the glass. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

The theme of the restaurant is, of course, horse racing, but the menu has many Cajun dishes. I had the catfish stuffed with crabmeat, shrimp, and crawfish. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif

I ordered a second Pappy and got bold. I asked the cute barmaid what was up with the generous pours. She said it was house policy to pour to the lip (when sideways). I am definitely going back!

The only downside to this place is that it isn't old and doesn't have that neighborhood feel. But, I think I could forgive it for that, especially, if I could drag one of my SB.com friends to this place. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I highly recommend this place. So far, this is the best combination of food and bourbon I have found in L'ville. (Disclaimer - I have not been to the Oak Room at the Seelbach yet.)

07-25-2003, 05:15

I don't know if you are a man of faith, but as I read your story about Furlongs, I could picture you at its entrance, wondering whether or not to go inside. Just then, an unseen hand opens the door and gentle, soothing voice says: "You are a good son. Enter here and find a well-deserved respite."


07-25-2003, 06:58
Sounds like a much needed meal and drink! Glad to hear it and thanks for passing this along!

07-25-2003, 07:54
I found Furlongs on the web. Here is their blurb and here is a review of their restaurant <a=href"http://www.louisvillehotbytes.com/furlongs.shtml">http://www.louisvillehotbytes.com/furlongs.shtml</a>

Furlongs, creator Tommy Walters hails from Lafayette, Louisiana, where he grew up cooking alongside his father, noted Cajun chef Roland Walters. Tommy perfected authentic southwest Louisiana cooking and has brought his own signature dishes to share with Kentucky diners. Tommy opened Furlongs in Lexington, Kentucky in 1992 on the corner of Ashland and Main Streets. It was so successful that a second Furlongs opened in Louisville in November 1998, winning one of the city’s “Best New Restaurants” awards.

The Furlongs menu is filled with delectable options from seafood and pasta favorites to out-of-this-world chef’s specials. Entrees include several varieties of Blackened Fresh Fish, Soft-Shell Crab, Gumbo and house specialty Mignon Ecrivesse, a nine-ounce fillet topped with crawfish etoufee. Homemade soups change daily, and all the salad dressings are Walter’s original secret recipes. Prices range from $7.95 for Blackened Chicken Salad and $14.95 for Stuffed Catfish, to $29.95 for Steak and Lobster. Save room for dessert and try the melt-in-your-mouth Beignets, fried dough dusted with confectioner’s sugar.

Nestled in the heart of “restaurant row” on historic Frankfort Avenue, Furlong’s is housed in a restored 1890s home with beautiful, original mantels and pocket doors. The dramatic bar flows out to the covered porch and onto the open-air patio, and the sweet sounds of jazz and blues provide a wonderful backdrop for friendly conversations. Walters’ love for horses is mixed with original Louisiana art to create a comfortable, relaxed New Orleans atmosphere.

Furlongs is located at 2350 Frankfort Avenue near Ewing Street, and is brightly outlined with festive lights. Furlongs is open for dinner from 4 to 10 p.m. Sunday and Tuesday through Thursday, remains open until 11 p.m. on Friday and Saturday. The restaurant is closed on Monday. For information or to make reservations, call (502) 896-2610.

07-25-2003, 09:03
Furlong's is a great restaurant. The original is here in Lexington and I'm a regular. Check out the Courier Journal on Fridays. They may have a coupon for $15.00 off on one entree with purchase of two. Bourbon selection is awesome and pours are generous. I love the logo, a jockey riding a crawdad. Eat out and often.
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07-25-2003, 09:26
I could have used this information when I was in Lexington a couple of weeks ago http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif -- I'll know for next time. I'll try their Louisville spot when I can. THANKS

07-25-2003, 13:35
Bardstown Road in the Highlands is probably the most eclectic part of Louisville. The section of Frankfort Avenue which is on the East side of Downtown at the Clifton neighborhood , is experiencing some growth and emulates the Highlands. ( As Martha would say " A Good Thing") So I'm not too off topic , a touch of Stagg.

07-25-2003, 15:10
I W Harper 15 year from the Heritage Collection. I didn't think I would like this bourbon but it's not all that bad. It is fairly smooth and aged nicely with a clean finish. Although I think it would have benefitted being bottled slightly higher than just 80 proof. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif Still, a rare find and a decent pour! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

07-25-2003, 15:52
WT 101 on the rocks, with just a splash of last night's leftover Russell's Reserve (which I had the presence of mind to cover before retiring for the evening).

I find Wild Turkey puzzling on more than one level. I've yet to do a side-by-side with comparable whiskey from other bottlers where the WT came out on top, and yet I keep coming back to it, and I find it satisfying almost every time.

Their marketing is a curious mixture of inspiration and incompetence. I love their slogan "Not the latest thing -- the genuine thing."

On the other side is the RB Society, which I have lambasted elsewhere, and my recent discovery that their website contains information about The Bourbon Festival -- the one to be held in the year 2001! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Has some corporate marketing type decided to strip-mine the Wild Turkey image rather than build for the future? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

07-25-2003, 16:09
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/hot.gifI agree with you Dave that WT does have some disappointing aspects. I wish they had someone with some 'authority' that frequented this board to read our comments. After a few email's of a personal matter, the whole Rare Breed Society ( http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bs.gif)and those damn labels that I still have NOT received since mailing in their mailer last December ( http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/horseshit.gif)I am rather frustrated with a company the size of WT. I do like their line-up but Customer Satisfaction means alot to me and they have really failed in this department. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/hot.gif

07-25-2003, 16:39
Tonight it's a Manhattan made with VWFR Rye 13yo. I was a little torn on whether to splash vermouth into such a fine spirit, but I decided I wanted this one top notch. And yes, it DEFINITELY is!! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif

07-25-2003, 16:48
Well, in case anybody cares what I'm doing in my Igloo in the north, I'm actually drinking a fine homebrew beer. Yes beer. But it's really a CHASER. I warmed up the taste buds with an ElijahCraig 12yo then dove into a wee shot of Bookers, neat of coarse. Hmmmm. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

07-25-2003, 17:09
I was staying in the Upper Highlands the last couple weeks at my great uncle's. I would agree that the Bardstown Road area north of 264 is very electic. I visited a few places, but nothing worth writing about.

My Mom grew up right off Bardstown Road, near St. James Church, on Beringer.

07-25-2003, 17:27
Thanks for your kind words.

07-25-2003, 19:37
What keeps the "skeeters" at bay in B.C.? Let me know...they always like a sip of my heme! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

07-26-2003, 17:15
Sitting at the picnic table on the back porch with my wireless lap-top and enjoying the last of a bottle of Rare Breed. In the distance I can see about 30 hot air balloons as they slowly descend towards the large open playing fields of a local college. The last of the days light is nearly gone,a light breeze with seventy degrees....great day.

07-26-2003, 20:32
Old GD 114

Wow. Bought this in Texas while on vacation. If you have a chance give it a try. NICE! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif

07-27-2003, 06:21
Yes, Black85L98, OGD 114 is certainly in my top 10, maybe even top 5. I bought a bottle in Atlanta, last August, and I am still nursing it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif


07-27-2003, 14:55
Bought my first bottle of OGD114 this week. I like it http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I get a liitle burn, in the middle of the taste. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
Going to try it with a splash of water or a few chips of
ice. For the price i paid, its a good value Bourbon. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

07-27-2003, 17:25

Old GD 114 is now in my top 10 too. I do not have the patience to take it easy and have just about finished the bottle I bought in Texas last week. I will be looking for more. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

07-27-2003, 18:08
I'm in the minority as I don't really care for OGD 114, but out of curiosity... What's the general price you guys have paid for it? I do not see it often but saw many bottles of it this past weekend while on vacation in CT on sale for $21. I thought it sold for a bit more than this, but i could be wrong...

07-27-2003, 18:43
About the same, I paid about $22.


07-27-2003, 19:15
I bought mine in Penna. for $22 http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

07-27-2003, 19:16
Hell, that's a good price for a strong 'hitter'. I cannot blame you guys for placing it in your top 10. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif

07-27-2003, 19:34
I pay $19-20 for OGD 114 here. I always carry it when I go hiking (as if I needed an excuse). For the ounce-trimming backpacker, 4 oz of 120 proof bourbon = 6 oz of 80 proof.

07-27-2003, 21:25
I paid $24 in MA for mine.