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joe1974
04-20-2004, 19:42
i live in an area that is dominated by maker's mark. i like it but most people assume it is the best bourbon around. i strongly disagree. but i am absolutely amazed by the way people will do anything for a "collector's bottle" or some trinket dipped in wax. kudos to their marketing department but how do bourbon afficianados rate maker's mark. i apologize if this issue has been discussed before.

gr8erdane
04-20-2004, 20:00
Here in Missouri, we use Maker's Mark to thin paint, polish silver, and kill crabgrass. You mean you can drink the stuff? Just kidding. A lot of bars in my area have only Beam and Makers as call bourbons. I prefer Makers to Beam white label. Many on this site do like it, but find it to be rather bland compared to many similar or lower priced bottlings. Nobody disputes the power of their marketing though as it's top notch. But then maybe there's a reason they have to spend so much?

bobbyc
04-20-2004, 20:04
I don't think Bill Samuels Sr had any gimmickry in mind when he started a defunct distillery back up in 1954. He is the last person to pull that off, for that he has my respect. At the present time Beam , Brown -Forman( Labrot& Graham) or any of the other high rollers( all of them) could build a fire under an old still. Don't hold your breath to see any other up & comer to do that. Makers has distinct brand appeal. Even in Louisville where everyone knows the brand, the billboards on the interstate cry forth with red wax.

Most complaints lodged here regarding Maker's fall like this;
for what it is the price is a little steep. They sell all they can make so no help coming there.

Most would like to see things done with age and proof, a single barrel( Who could afford it if they did?) They would rather ride the same horse home that they won the race with.

Some of their claims are quite a stretch, ie reinventing the premium bourbon catagory. Don't ever believe that Pappy VanWinkle and Jim Beam himself only made rotgut that was passable and would have to wait till the mid 50s to follow Maker's lead.

pepcycle
04-21-2004, 07:55
The answer is YES!!
Good Bourbon, not great, somewhat pricey for a one horse show. Gimmick, YES. They've taken the marketing route as the shortest distance between the rick house and the bank. They deserve credit for being the springboard to premium bourbon for many enthusiasts. I am personally infatuated with the whole Wax Dipped Collectible thing. (A tragic personality flaw hat has me collecting porcelain insulators, Harley Beer, Beer steins, old lab glassware and anything shiny found on the side of the road)
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There are distilleries that skip the hype and put out good products. There are distilleries that put out hype and sell crap (Have you tried Old Whiskey River?) Half the fun is being able to tell the difference.
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angelshare
04-21-2004, 09:36
In our non-expert opinion, we would have to agree with the general sentiments that it is good but somewhat overpriced. Tina probably likes it more than I, but I like it quite a bit. I think it has one of the smoother finishes around.

Confession: we have allowed ourselves to fall victim to the gimmickry, too. We have a 375ml bottle that we dipped ourselves on a distillery tour as well as a blue label/white wax bottle signed by Bill Samuels, Jr. Still, when a Maker's Mark fan comes over, they make fun conversation pieces.

I think Bobby's comments above say it best in terms of summarizing all sides of the issue. Actually, I respect the philosophy of sticking with one predictable quality product. It's fun for us bourbon drinkers to try new stuff, but if a single barrel Maker's Mark experiment tanked financially, I bet we would foot the bill with our next purchase of "plain old" Maker's Mark.

As for the wax - I think it looks cool, and it's fine if you're not planning to drink it; however, I find wax covered bottles annoying. Sometimes the pull-tab breaks, wax crumbs fall everywhere, etc. I vote for a test run of waxless MM - how much could that cost? Ditto on EWSB, Bookers, etc.

TNbourbon
04-21-2004, 14:05
I'll quote myself from another thread here (not because I like the sound of my own voice, but because my sentiments haven't changed) about Maker's Mark:
It's not bad, not memorable, not cheap. I have to remind myself sometimes to taste it again, because there are many other brands I go to first. And, because I like the small-distillery mystique, its absolutely beautiful physical setting in Loretto, the tall-tale marketing, et al, I am almost always disappointed that it isn't better than it is.

angelshare
04-21-2004, 17:52
Reading this thread prompted me to pull out my copy of My Autobiography by Bill Samuels, Jr. and review it. When I read it initially about 2 years ago, I thought it sounded more like ad copy than autobiography. Heck, the last quarter is ads. Still, I enjoyed it for the interesting tidbits, some great pictures, and, well...some amusing ads.

After searching here, I find the MM phenomenon even more fascinating. Betty Jo posted an article here (hope I did this link right) that I really enjoyed:

Bettye Jo's Post (http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=history&Number=18857&Forum =All_Forums&Words=autobiography&Match=Entire%20Phr ase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=18857& Search=true#Post18857)

Thanks, Bettye Jo - VERY interesting!

Having said that, it seems that in a time when marketing triumphs financially, it is up to bourbon enthusiasts to keep up discussion of what represents quality regardless of the marketing. So, I have two questions:

1) If marketing raises bourbon awareness in general, is it redeemed, at least partially, as a "good" thing?

2) Bobby C: what are your thoughts on the taste of MM itself? We know that taste is subjective, but your wisdom and hospitality are exceeded by no one here, in our humble opinion, so we anxiously await your impressions.

Just to clarify once again, we have been sucked in by the marketing of Maker's Mark, so we are posting as "sinners," not "evangelists," when it comes to bourbon marketing.

bobbyc
04-21-2004, 19:40
1) If marketing raises bourbon awareness in general, is it redeemed, at least partially, as a "good" thing?




As long as you got to where you are on the bourbon journey, how it started is less important. The <font color="red"> Red Wax </font> is their version of the Nike Swoosh or the emblem on a Cadillac. They are counting on a new drinker to be overwhelmed by the choices on a good bourbon bar , and for that person to feel confident that choosing the bottle with <font color="red"> Red Wax </font> Puts them clearly in the know and that they are drinking a Premium Bourbon.



2) Bobby C: what are your thoughts on the taste of MM itself? We know that taste is subjective, but your wisdom and hospitality are exceeded by no one here, in our humble opinion, so we anxiously await your impressions.




It is I that is humble now, I appreciate the compliment.


What I said of Makers some time ago (http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&amp;Number=8204&amp;page=&amp;view=&amp;sb=5 &amp;o=&amp;vc=1)
As far as the Bourbon goes it is fine and I don't have a problem with it. It seems apparent to me that that their ad budget is massive. That in the end adds to the cost, I would like Makers more if it cost less.

I own several bottles of Makers .Each year since my sons 21st birthday I have given him a VIP Makers. All with the same lettering except his age and the current year. I figure I'll do 10 of them. He still has them all. I got a Seattle Slew bottle for my wife, complained that the store I bought it from stuck me for an extra 3 dollars from the first shipment he got to the second. I felt proud today when I saw them at Liquor Barn for $69.99. I remarked that I wondered if they would buy the one I have, Bad idea, according to Amelia!

As long as Makers bring people to the fold , that's a good thing, If after a trip around the block, one finds they like VanWinkle Bourbons a lot better, or that 12 year Weller is better and cheaper, then that's part of it.

My Grandfather worked for Bill Samuels Sr at TW Samuels. After that was sold he went to Jim Beam. I think he regreted that Bill was out at TW Samuels and wished it had went on. Once at Jim Beam, he never as far as I knew ever regreted being there.

bourbonv
04-22-2004, 06:17
The thing about Maker's Mark is that it has a fine reputation that at one time was well deserved. If you get a chance to open a bottle of Maker's from 20 years ago and taste it against the new Maker's and the difference is night and day. It was so much better back 20 years ago. Very full bodied (not thin like now) with lots of caramel and vanilla making it taste much more like a Van Winkle Stitzel-Weller wheated bourbon, but not quite the same. In that time it was probably one of the best bourbon's made.

What changed? I would say being bought by a corperation with lots of accountants. I would guess barrel proof increased, while time in the barrel decreased. It is still a good bourbon, but not great as it was at one time.

Mike Veach

pepcycle
04-22-2004, 09:31
Mike,
After sampling your 80's MM at the festival, I wholeheartedly agree. It seems that the popularity of brown liquor has forced increased production. (Higher proof in the barrel, shorter aging) In order for MM to get back on track, whiskey needs to become unpopular with the masses again. I suggest a ban on bourbon exports. Could you imagine what would happen to the industry if Japan put a ban on imported spirits?
We'd have more Four Roses Single Barrel than you could shake a stick at.
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NYtaster
04-24-2004, 18:25
Makers was an early favorite but I find that the more "better" bourbons I try the less I find MM to live up to its rep. The more I learn the more it seems like marketing, I also tend to agree that it has lost some quality over the years. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Too Bad!!

Tim

Master Distiller
06-28-2015, 00:50
I agree that Makers isnt a complex bourbon but then again if it was I may not like it as well as I do now. Makers Mark was actually my favorite bourbon until I tried Blanton's but I still keep Makers on hand and im actually drinking it now. Its my go to bourbon so I dont drink so much of my more expensive bottles. At $29.99 per 750ml I think is a fair price for such a tasty bourbon. I think Makers goes great with bourbon balls, any chocolate for that matter and even though Knob Creek has a strong chocolate nose to me I much more prefer Makers Mark. I enjoy it well enough I have a barrel that will be ready for bottling in a few years and since im purchasing the barrel it will be one of the very few single barrel Makers Marks and it will have my name on every bottle!

dcbt
06-28-2015, 05:50
Wow. An 11 year old thread gets revived.

TunnelTiger
06-28-2015, 06:36
Double wow. Just how many bottles do they estimate you'll get from your barrel?

flahute
06-28-2015, 09:07
Apart from doing a google search, how does one even find an 11 year old thread?

Also curious about the barrel. Since it won't be ready for a few years, does this mean that you had to select it when it was filled, meaning you haven't tasted what you will be buying, or, do you reserve a future barrel and get to select from a group that you taste before it gets bottled?

squire
06-28-2015, 09:12
As I understand the way it was done a decade ago was you bought a barrel (which you had no hand in selecting) and 5-6 years later got an aged barrel of their choosing. Basically you were buying the right to a barrel in the future but locking it in at today's prices.

shoshani
06-29-2015, 05:40
Wow. An 11 year old thread gets revived.

Complete with broken internal links because the structure of the forum software has changed! But yeah, usually these threads are auto-locked after a year of inactivity. Interesting phenomenon.

Smithford
06-29-2015, 06:42
Apart from doing a google search, how does one even find an 11 year old thread?
Scroll down to the bottom of the page, look at the "similar threads" section. There are threads down there older than this one.

Not sure why this one wasn't auto locked. Maybe something to do with the tinkering for the new forum software? In any case, kudos to Master Distiller for searching and posting in an existing thread rather than starting a new one.

glmg21
07-01-2015, 13:10
I love Makers Mark, for the record. Yes, you can do better, but for the price you can do a hell of a lot worse. It's my go-to.

fozzy71
07-01-2015, 14:10
I love Makers Mark, for the record. Yes, you can do better, but for the price you can do a hell of a lot worse. It's my go-to.

When I was Indiana they had Liters on sale for $20 (these are $40 up here) so I picked up a 200ml to make sure I still liked it as it had been a long time and it tasted fine to me. Then I went to a different location for the chain liquor store and saw they had 750ml of MM46 for $20 as well (also $40 up here) so I went with 3 bottles of the MM46 instead of the liter bottles of the standard expression. I haven't had the MM46 in a while either but I recall enjoying it very much at the time.

BourbonJoe
07-01-2015, 16:11
Maker's is a decent wheater. I know they can make it better because they used to. Remember the gold capsule 101 from the 70's? Great stuff.

smokinjoe
07-01-2015, 16:23
Maker's is a decent wheater. I know they can make it better because they used to. Remember the gold capsule 101 from the 70's? Great stuff.

Hell Joe, they all can make it "better". "Better", as in what we 1%er enthusiasts think that is. Problem is, back in those glory days people weren't buying that "better ", and distilleries were going broke and out of business. So , they changed things to give the market what it wanted...and really, still wants.

I'll add, though I enjoy older bourbons as much as the next guy here, I find bourbon produced today as good as ever. Definitely, more consistent. Most are just a lighter style than we saw back in the day.

Mr. Bourbon
07-01-2015, 20:24
The last bottle of MM was dominated by alcohol. Seemed like it was way too young, The whole bottle tasted the same.

I prefer Jim Beam white to MM.

Right now I'm drinking some BT...and makes me not want to even look at a MM bottle!

fozzy71
07-01-2015, 20:41
.......

Right now I'm drinking some BT...and makes me not want to even look at anything else!

fify

amen, u cant beat BT for the price

Master Distiller
07-02-2015, 15:02
When I found this thread on google it said this thread was locked but when I opened it in the tapatalk app it allowed me to post. At anytime I get to go to Makers Mark, recieve VIP treatment, and when my barrel is ready I get to taste it before bottling and if I dont like it I can try others that are ready until I find one I like. However thier tasters taste the bourbon every so often and keep me posted on its progress, im sure if something was wrong with it they would inform me and give me another barrel. Its estamated at 250 750ml bottles with my name on each bottle. It could be a few more bottles or a few less depending on placement in the rickhouse. Im only a 2 hour drive from Makers and many other bourbon distilleries. Im only 35 minutes from Old Pogue Distillery the only bourbon distillery still in operation today in bourbons birthplace, Maysville Ky which back then was Bourbon County Virginia.

flahute
07-02-2015, 19:25
MD, when you buy a barrel, do you have the option of letting it age for an extra year or two?

mbroo5880i
07-02-2015, 19:44
Back to the original question. MM is a gimmick. It will never last. Oh wait, its only been around for 61 years. I bet it becomes popular and is a mainstay in bars across the country.

ethangsmith
07-04-2015, 19:02
One of my first bottles of bourbon was Maker's Mark. It was good, but I still walked away from it for quite a few years because I wasn't into the wheated bourbon thing. Just recently, at my brother's urging, I picked up another bottle. I forgot how good it actually was. Here's the thing- all our tastes are different, so being labelled a gimmick simply on the basis of thinking it may or may not be marginal whiskey is pretty subjective. For me, Weller sucks and I KNOW I'm in the minority for that. I don't like Four Roses or Eagle Rare. I DO however enjoy Old Grand Dad, Old Overholt, Evan Willams 1783, and other whiskeys that could certainly fall into the "value" category. Heck, I'll go so far as to say I don't mind paying the price for Knob Creek! For me, Maker's Mark is a very good whiskey at a reasonable price. I don't expect everyone else to feel the same way.

Ravensfire
07-05-2015, 10:57
To me, Makers Mark is a solid bourbon. Being sweeter than most bourbon it's more approachable to the average person than a high rye bourbon. More importantly, Makers Mark has had excellent marketing and a really good distribution system. I can't think of a wheaten bourbon than more people know about in more places. With one of the most distinctive bottles in bourbon, it's easy to spot on the bar and all that marketing means you know what that bottle is so you order it.

Solid bourbon, easy to drink, great marketing and a very recognizable bottle combine to create what MM is today.

flahute
07-05-2015, 12:34
Maker's was my go to for years until I became obsessed with, errrrr........an "enthusiast" for bourbon. There are many other flavor profiles I prefer better now, but if I was to be at a bar or in someone's home and Maker's was the only option, I would not be sad.

chasking
07-06-2015, 10:27
I didn't take MM very seriously until some friends and I did a blind tasting (something I strongly recommend everybody do periodically!) of a handful of common brands and it did very well. As far as wheaters go, there really are not many options that are readily available. It made a nice step up from Old Fitz or Rebel Yell (given that the Weller expressions are so tough to find consistently). I think Larceny beats it, though, in approximately the same price category.

I've barely tasted MM46, but I'd be inclined to give it the benefit of the doubt.

unclebunk
07-07-2015, 17:40
Personally, I have always loved Makers Mark and always will. I think it is a high quality bourbon at an extraordinarily good price but suffers from being too "common" in the minds of many. To be sure, it is far from the most complex bourbon on the shelf but is nevertheless extremely consistent and delicious in my book. It also does extremely well in blind tastings with my friends, if wheaters are in your wheelhouse.

Golzee
07-07-2015, 18:14
Maker's is my preferred bourbon to use in a sour. On its own, I believe that it is a solid bourbon which doesn't get the respect it deserves. If it were in a Weller bottle who knows how much it would cost. As for it being a gimmick...nonsense. On the other hand, the limited edition colored waxes don't help their cause...

squire
07-07-2015, 20:42
Admittedly Makers uses gimmicks to market their product but so does everybody else, cheezy sales approaches go all the way back to the glass log cabins sold by E.G. Booze in the 1860s. Most of the Maker's marketing story is horseshit but so is putting the name Evan Williams on a label with the date 1783 as if there is any connection whatsoever with the current product in the bottle.

Makers is good whisky no matter how presented.

baxeaves
07-08-2015, 08:02
rumor has it that since the Suntory purchase, the barrels are not being rotated near as much.

smokinjoe
07-08-2015, 08:12
rumor has it that since the Suntory purchase, the barrels are not being rotated near as much.

Details, please? Do you know rotation schedule/process for "before" sale, as compared to "after"?
Thx.

squire
07-08-2015, 14:00
I heard a rumor that Obama is Elvis's love child but haven't seen any proof.

DonutsNBourbon
07-08-2015, 14:24
As for it being a gimmick...nonsense. On the other hand, the limited edition colored waxes don't help their cause...

I went into Binny's just to check out this blackhawks commemorative wax on the MM bottles... it's as if they didn't even put any effort into it and are just trying to make a sale off of the Blackhawks. I mean they just redipped the bottles into black wax after the red, they didn't even change the label. then I thought to myself, "wow, I can't believe I was even thinking of buying a bottle just cuz of the wax..."

so I guess the gimmick kinda works. either way, I don't think they need to resort to the gimmicks to sell their whiskey (I like the 46 and MMCS), but if it helps, I guess why not?

Harry in WashDC
07-09-2015, 09:58
I guess it's a good bourbon WITH a gimmick or two, but aren't most of them? Nods to Squire & Uncle Bunk & DNB for saying what I'm saying. Sometimes MM in a restaurant suits when I just want something simple but good. MMCS, which I just tried recently, is now a must-keep around (an ever-growing list). But then, MM already has me as a sometime drinker so they don't need to make their ads catch my eye.

fishnbowljoe
07-09-2015, 16:12
I guess it's a good bourbon WITH a gimmick or two, but aren't most of them? Nods to Squire & Uncle Bunk & DNB for saying what I'm saying. Sometimes MM in a restaurant suits when I just want something simple but good. MMCS, which I just tried recently, is now a must-keep around (an ever-growing list). But then, MM already has me as a sometime drinker so they don't need to make their ads catch my eye.

I agree too. It's a good bourbon, with slick gimmicks and/or marketing to match.

Time for me to expound on this some. :rolleyes: Yeah I know. But hey, it's been a while since I've posted something really long and windy. :lol:

First off, a parable. Many years ago when I was still really into fishing, I was always checking out the latest and greatest fishing lures that came out on the market. Fortunately for me, I got to know a really good guy that worked at the main sporting goods store I frequented. He helped me a lot, and gave me some great info over the years. I specifically remember one time when I visited the store he worked at. It wasn't very busy, and we got the chance to chat a little bit for a change. So, to cut to the chase here, his comment about fishing lures was this: "You know, pretty much all lures will catch fish, but (with all the colors, glitz, glitter, dohickeys and gimmicks) they're meant to catch fishermen first." :grin:

This kinda fits with bourbon too. Whether it's a cool bottle, fancy box, new label, different colored wax tops, or a great story, etc, it's all meant to catch us "bourbon fishermen" first. ;)

Strip away the veneer, and MM is a darned good bourbon at a pretty fair price. MM was pretty much my gateway bourbon, as it was for a lot of folks here. I've strayed away from MM numerous times, and went on to what I thought was bigger and better things. That being said, I will always have a bottle in my bunker, if not open. I keep revisiting it, and I'm never disappointed. I do wonder at times why I don't visit it more often than I do. Reckon I'll have to open a bottle soon. :crazy: FWIW, I really like the MMCS, although I would rather have seen MM try a 101 proof version first. Hell, now I guess I'm gonna have to open a MMCS soon too. :skep:

One last thing. For those that don't know, MM has done many different variations of the wax colors on their bottles. They've done that to celebrate many sports teams championships, amongst other things. I won't go into details on all they've done, but I will say that I have a Colts Super Bowl bottle. :cool: I got it signed by Bill Samuel's and Dave Pickerel too. :woohoo:

Cheers! Joe

shoshani
07-10-2015, 07:07
FWIW, I really like the MMCS, although I would rather have seen MM try a 101 proof version first. Hell, now I guess I'm gonna have to open a MMCS soon too.

I used an iPhone app and basically an eyedropper to bring a pour of MMCS down to 100 proof...and wasn't as impressed. They seem to have batched together barrels that taste best at barrel proof without dilution. It was still good, but a lot of the subtle nuances were gone.

dcbt
07-10-2015, 09:22
I actually do dilute my MMCS to 100 proof for regular sipping. Keep some in the bottle for more full bodied pours tho. But I do enjoy it at 100.

unclebunk
07-10-2015, 13:25
I used an iPhone app and basically an eyedropper to bring a pour of MMCS down to 100 proof...and wasn't as impressed. They seem to have batched together barrels that taste best at barrel proof without dilution. It was still good, but a lot of the subtle nuances were gone.

What's the app? It helps figure out proof?

dcbt
07-10-2015, 16:54
I know this is going to sound old school and ridiculous, but simple math and / or Excel will accomplish the same thing...

shoshani
07-13-2015, 07:37
What's the app? It helps figure out proof?

It's called Distiller's Toolbox.

gooneygoogoo
07-13-2015, 09:36
I enjoy all of the Maker's labels so I say good bourbon. I really enjoyed the "over aged" they used to have as part of the tasting at the distillery. Makes me wish they would release something with more age at some point.

unclebunk
07-13-2015, 10:22
I know this is going to sound old school and ridiculous, but simple math and / or Excel will accomplish the same thing... I know what you mean but I'm never in the mood to bust out a calculator or pen and paper to figure these things out when I'm drinking. There is a wonderful proof calculator right here on the SB home page, in fact, that I sometimes use but that requires going to my computer and punching in the numbers which takes a bit more time than a phone app which might give me the same info on the fly. Not a bad way to go when pouring a quick 2 oz. drink or reducing a pint to 100 proof when preparing to share some whiskey with a friend.

ebo
07-13-2015, 14:47
I recently had a pour of MM in a bar the other evening. I hadn't had any in a few years. My taste must have drastically changed over the last few years because it was all I could do to finish the pour. It was just awful! I like the 46 well enough, but I think I've had my last regular MM.

BCRich2204
07-13-2015, 14:56
I still consider myself a newbie, trying to find out what's what. Maker's is my North Star.

Every month I wander into a new store to buy something I haven't tried. Every now & then I lose my way & buy a bottle of Maker's to remind me what whiskey is supposed to taste like. There are others that I like just as much, some better... but the stores I visit don't always carry them. They always have Maker's.

Richnimrod
07-13-2015, 18:53
I recently had a pour of MM in a bar the other evening. I hadn't had any in a few years. My taste must have drastically changed over the last few years because it was all I could do to finish the pour. It was just awful! I like the 46 well enough, but I think I've had my last regular MM.

Just to point out a possible reason that 'bar pour' didn't come up to snuff.... It may have been adulterated; or may not even MM. I know, Iknow. ..."Poured directly from the bottle; I saw it!" However, there are unscrupulous bar owners/tenders who cheat like the devil just to make extra cheddar off unsuspecting patrons. ...Just sayin'........:bigeyes:

squire
07-13-2015, 21:28
There are others that I like just as much, some better... but the stores I visit don't always carry them. They always have Maker's.

There's that . . . and that's reassuring. Grand Dad is my touchstone and wherever I go I'll find it there.

Restaurant man
07-13-2015, 21:48
If makers mark bourbon was in a "old fitz/pappy/willett bottle people would be falling all over themselves to wax on about the perfection in that bottle. Haha

flahute
07-13-2015, 22:44
If makers mark bourbon was in a "old fitz/pappy/willett bottle people would be falling all over themselves to wax on about the perfection in that bottle. Haha
I think you are right. If it's a wheater and in a Willett bottle, it's the BEST EVER. For sale: $700 on secondary.

unclebunk
07-14-2015, 05:13
It's called Distiller's Toolbox.

Thanks for the info. Will check it out.

squire
07-14-2015, 08:23
I've long maintained if they had kept the Old Fitzgerald line going using Makers whisky most consumers wouldn't have noticed a difference.

JDSmith619
07-14-2015, 13:05
I enjoy MM regularly and will continue to. I've got a MMCS and will probably buy another. It does its job and I'm fine with that.

unclebunk
07-14-2015, 15:01
Picked up my first bottle of Makers 46 today (which joins regular MM and MMCS on the shelf) and looking forward to sampling it tonight while watching the All-Star game.

fozzy71
07-14-2015, 15:20
Picked up my first bottle of Makers 46 today (which joins regular MM and MMCS on the shelf) and looking forward to sampling it tonight while watching the All-Star game.

Good idea, I might join you. I have only had 1 or two bottles and that was over last winter so I went downstairs and grabbed one of the three I have bunkered from my IN trip.

ebo
07-14-2015, 15:35
Just to point out a possible reason that 'bar pour' didn't come up to snuff.... It may have been adulterated; or may not even MM. I know, Iknow. ..."Poured directly from the bottle; I saw it!" However, there are unscrupulous bar owners/tenders who cheat like the devil just to make extra cheddar off unsuspecting patrons. ...Just sayin'........:bigeyes:

Normally I would agree with that. But, this bar has only been open for a week. A co-worker opened it and asked me what bourbon/scotch she should have available that is a bit more upscale and readily available...... and that she could sell at a decent rate and price. MM was one of the bourbons I told her about. I know the bottle was new. I just didn't care for it at all.

drunkenjayhawk
07-14-2015, 17:52
I just finished a 750 of the standard and I will replace it. is the 46 worth the extra or no?

fozzy71
07-14-2015, 18:22
I am loving the 46 tonight but I got 3 of em recently on sale in IN for $20 so I am not sure it is worth the premium.

drunkenjayhawk
07-14-2015, 21:52
I might get a 46 next time at the store I go to most often. Rarely I see Makers products onsale around here. But I can hope!

camduncan
07-14-2015, 23:08
46 runs at $80 a bottle here in Australia (approx. $60 US).... To me it's worth every cent, but I sure wish I could get it for $20... or $30... or $40 :)

flahute
07-14-2015, 23:22
I came to really appreciate the bottle of 46 I had. I'll replace it eventually.

fozzy71
07-15-2015, 04:16
46 runs at $80 a bottle here in Australia (approx. $60 US).... To me it's worth every cent, but I sure wish I could get it for $20... or $30... or $40 :)

Price in MI is $40 so I am really kicking myself for only buying 3 bottles on my IN trip.

DonutsNBourbon
07-15-2015, 08:14
I am loving the 46 tonight but I got 3 of em recently on sale in IN for $20 so I am not sure it is worth the premium.

wow, 46 at $20... that's a steal. I usually see it for around $30 at the lowest. usually around $35.

TunnelTiger
07-15-2015, 08:54
I feel MM, MM46, & MMCS are all good bourbons and not gimmicks. I just enjoy it a whole lot more when I haven't had it in awhile. It's just not an everyday pour for me and I've never bunkered any.