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**DONOTDELETE**
01-28-2002, 05:26
OK Everyone! Have you a bottle? Let's do it! Here's the deal - everyone that has a bottle - post your tasting notes. Everyone that does not have a bottle must buy one and post their tasting notes. It's just that simple. Com'mon now anyone can do it!

It's very simple really - 1) buy some bourbon, 2) drink it, 3) write about it on the forum. See - it's the cat's whisker's.

Easy as SIN.

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

ratcheer
01-28-2002, 16:57
Sorry, Linn. I have seen RHF in my ABC store in the past, but not for quite a few months, now. Believe me, I would LIKE to buy a bottle and taste it with you.

Tim

porgymcnasty
01-29-2002, 12:10
all that I remember about RHF, was that I was not too impressed! I have AAA, not too impressed either. Why pay more for bourbon that does do that little bit extra. You know excite you, make you want to spend extra, instead of staying with your favourite brands all the time.

Hopefully, when I finally taste Blantons my opinion of Ancient Age will be corrected. At the moment it is rock bottom, let alone rock hill.

George!



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ratcheer
01-29-2002, 15:51
And why would tasting Blanton's change your opinion of AAA? Sure, they are both from the same distillery, but one is a $45 whiskey while the other is $13.

It would be like comparing a Corvette to a Geo. Just because the 'vette is great shouldn't make you like the Geo any more.

Tim

porgymcnasty
01-30-2002, 02:21
sorry, tasting blantons would change my opinion of AA (ancient age, the distillery, not AAA the bottling!)

George!

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**DONOTDELETE**
01-30-2002, 11:52
I'm in the same boat Tim. RHF is a 'special order item' at my ABC, and even though I have asked several times for it to be ordered nothing shows up. Richmond says they can't get it. Whenever it does show up I'll be sure to post some kind of tasting on it.

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

**DONOTDELETE**
01-30-2002, 12:01
Well George if Blanton's; Elmer T. Lee, or Rock Hill Farms doesn't make your heart sing then it just may be that Buffalo Trace whiskey isn't for you. After all you needn't like every whiskey.

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

cowdery
01-30-2002, 12:04
My love of Blanton's has made me interested in trying Rock Hill, which believe it or not I have never had (can't say that about many bourbons). My hope is that it will taste like a high proof Blanton's, but we'll see.

Buffalo Trace, formerly Ancient Age, has only recently started to make multiple bourbon formulas. For many years they made one. Blanton's was simply Ancient Age that had aged more successfully. It was different for that reason, but it was the same yeast and mash bill. Although I believe Buffalo Trace now makes something like seven different mash bills, I don't know which go into what products. They may very well still have a standard bourbon they use for most of their brands. It especially wouldn't surprise me if Blanton's and Rock Hill Farms have similar, if not identical, pedigrees.

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://cowdery.home.netcom.com>--Chuck Cowdery</A>

ratcheer
01-30-2002, 17:52
Okay, now I get it.

I bought myself a bottle of Blanton's for Christmas. It was somewhat "laid back" at my first tasting. I thought it was very similar to Evan Williams Single Barrel.

I had my second tasting this past weekend (it is too expensive for me to drink on a regular basis). I savored it very carefully and it does, indeed, have wonderful flavors lurking in there. This time, it reminded me more of Knob Creek, but with more refinement, not quite so bold.

I still rate it only my second favorite. It will take a hell of a whiskey to knock Rare Breed from my personal top spot.

Tim

ratcheer
01-30-2002, 18:02
Elmer T. Lee is the one I want to try, next. I have requested it at my ABC store, but, like you said, we almost never hear anything back from these requests.

Anyway, Elmer Lee, the master distiller of both Blanton's and ETL, has said that they are identical production but he selects Blanton's with a drier profile and ETL a little sweeter. He also says that he personally prefers the ETL. (I am not privy to his statements, I just read them in an interview article, somewhere).

So, I sure would like to get my hands on a bottle of ETL (and, Rock Hill Farms, too, for that matter).

Tim

**DONOTDELETE**
01-31-2002, 05:11
Tim they are all good enough to want to have at least one bottle of each around at all times. Sure there may be other bourbons that you like better and in your case it is Wild Turkey's Rare Breed. Being a BIG Turkey fan myself I always keep a bottle of Kentucky Spirit on hand.

The only problem I have with keeping these fine bourbons around is in forcing myself to drink less expensive brands and saving these for special occaisions like paydays.

Whenever I finish a bottle and must decide what to open I can hear them arguing amongst themselves. "Pick Me!" yells Elmer T. Lee. "No - Drink Me Next!" shouts the Blanton's. "Hey Linn" the Kentucky Spirit interrupts in a conspirital tone "You know I'm the best. Open me next".

That's why you have to keep all of the other brands guessing by introducing a new bottling into the house now and again. It makes 'em jelous and keeps 'em on their toes.

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

Hedmans Brorsa
01-31-2002, 05:22
Wow! Being used to lagging several steps behind the majority of the contributors of this forum, I suddenly find myself ultra-hip with my bottles of Rock Hill Farms & Elmer T. Lee. :o)

What with english not being my mother tongue ( I come from Sweden, the home of Astrid Lindgren & recent grand slam winner Thomas Johansson) I donīt think I am the right person to provide for spirited tasting notes.

For what itīs worth, I find RHF to be a somewhat heavier proposition than Blantonīs and Elmer, this fact, no doubt partly due to its higher proof. I also noted that the dry, sophisticated vanilla that (at least initially) dominates B. & Elmer is not very noticeable in RHF. The most prevalent trait in the latter, apart from an overall feel of "spiced caramel", is a light toasty oakiness which results in a very luxurious mouthfeel. Truly delicious! Iīm not that crazy about the nose, though, but this is something that I think is lacking in all the Buffalo Trace-products that I have encountered.

As for the differences between Blantonīs & Elmer T. Lee I agree. Blantonīs is decidedly drier. After a quite similar start, B. develops its trademark spiciness. Elmer, on the other hand, wanders into a more citrusey territory. But theyīre very similar.

Best wishes,
H.B.

P.S Linn : I got Kentucky Spirit & Russellīs reserve yesterday. Time will tell if they will rise above Old Rip 15 yo...

**DONOTDELETE**
02-01-2002, 06:02
Oh Yeah!! Get down with your bad self H.B.! Super Bowl Party at Hedmans house! He lives in Sweden so we don't need to bring any ice.

Thanks for posting your impressions of these fine bourbons. Whether or not they surpass your beloved 15 y.o. Old Rip in your estimation is an altogether different and totally personal aspect of bourbonic enjoyment. When we are talking high end single barrels and small batchers I just do my best to enjoy them all. Each individual bourbon has a personality all its own for you to enjoy.

Your other bottles will surely be jelous of the Wild Turkey newcomers. They taste as good as they look. Be sure to enjoy them with a big thick juicy beefsteak!

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

**DONOTDELETE**
04-09-2002, 16:21
Rock Hill Farms Single Barrel Bourbon

Proof: 100 -> Bottled in Bond

Price: $42 per 750ml bottle. Special order only at Virginia ABC stores.

Distiller: Buffalo Trace Distillery in Frankfort, Kentucky

Master Distiller: Gary Gayheart. Gary was born in the mountains of eastern Kentucky in 1939. He later attended the University of Louisville and earned a B.S. in Chemistry in 1961. Gary worked as chemist for the Fleischmann Distilling Corp. in Owensboro, Ky. Then in 1969 he took a job with the Schenley Corp. at what is now the Buffalo Trace Distillery. In the early 1980's he assumed masterdistiller's responsibility at Schenley's Berhiem distillery in Louisville, and split his time between the two distilleries.

Age: No Age Statement on Bottle. Gayheart states that " Rock Hill Farms is usually selected from barrels aged from eight to nine years. This seems to be the best age where to my taste the mellow bourbon character is at it's peak. After that a little more woody character than I like begins to appear."

Mashbill: This is the standard Ancient Age mashbill and is now known as 'BT#2'. It is a traditional rye recipe that is high in corn. They won't tell me what the exact ratio is, but according to BT President Mark Brown they believe that this mashbill dates back to 1870 when Col. E.H. Taylor and George T. Stagg started up the Old Fire Copper Distillery on this site. "We do know", says Brown,"that it is the same formula we produced during prohibition, since we have recently sampled some whiskey made here then - it was identical to our whiskey today."

Color; Classic amber with a burnished copper cast.

Body: FULL bodied and nicely mouth coating. Oily in a good way.

Nose: Delightfully complex. The sweetness of this bourbon comes through as fresh ripe ears of corn; honeysuckel blossoms, juicy pears, and hints of dark mollassas.

Palete: All of the rich aromas from the nose transfer to the palete in a wonderfully complex vortex of sweet delight. Well balanced and amalgamated the rye spicyness and oak are tart counterpoints. If you could drink Gershwin's 'Rapsody In Blue' it would taste like Rock Hill Farms.

Finish: 'Rapsody In Blue' continues in a long soul satisfiying finish that soothes away lifes stresses and smooths the path for tommorows challanges.

Overview: This is some of the very best bourbon that I have ever had. I put RHF in a three way blind tasting between Blanton's and my best bottle of Wild Turkey's Kentucky Spirit {the one I proclaimed to be the best bourbon on the planet}. All I had to do was pick the one I thought tasted best. What would turn out to be the Blanton's was eliminated in the first round. Then things got tough. The one I picked as best tasting to me was Kentucky Spirit, but Rock Hill Farms is so good I put it in the same league.

Pants Rating:There has never been a 'five pants' bourbon. Well there ought to be! Two of them in fact! Rock Hill Farms and Kentucky Spirit. Buy them both and see which one you like best!

PANTS AWAY!

Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

BourbonBlonde
04-10-2002, 11:53
It's definitely one of my favorites.

--Suzie

There is a hole in Misery's fence.
They cannot shut you in...

--Paul Gallico

**DONOTDELETE**
04-10-2002, 12:19
Thanks Suzie. You're too kind. Sorry I misspelled 'Rhapsody'. I really do try to catch that stuff.


Linn Spencer

Have Shotglass. Will Travel.

bluesbassdad
07-13-2002, 14:59
Tim,

Sometimes when I'm drinking, someone's comment will cause me to take an odd tangent. See the following.

I am the satisfied owner of a fully tarted-up Geo Prizm, which is actually a Chevy version of the Toyota Corolla, which, in turn, is a close but black-sheep relative of the Lexus.

If AAA is to Rock Hill Farms as Geo is to Lexus, then I'm for sure going to have to get me some AAA, not that I haven't been trying. I have several $30-plus bourbons right now that I thought I owed it to myself to try at least once; Rock Hill Farms is one of them. Yet when I consider the cost, I doubt that I will replace any of them when they are empty (well, maybe just one).

In the case of Kentucky Spirit and Rare Breed, as good as they are, I'm sure I can get by nicely with Russell's Reserve in their place. Perhaps AAA would serve the same role in regard to Blanton's and Rock Hill Farms.

The only problem is that I have yet to find AAA on the shelves in SoCal; nor have I found a mail-order/internet source.

I wonder; is Buffalo Trace from the same mashbill? Is its flavor profile similar to Rock Hill Farms?

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

MurphyDawg
07-13-2002, 19:18
Hey Dave,

I put Ancient ancient Age 10 on my version of you "Desert Island 5" , not Blanton's , or any other BT product. . . . .while not quite in Blantons Range, it is THAT DAMN GOOD!!! If it can be your everyday pour, then you are one spoiled individual, keep trying, find some, ITS WORTH IT!

TomC

bobbyc
07-13-2002, 19:37
AAA is a fine product , Blanton's seems to me to be far and away better but when you figure un the cost difference your not giving up much by selecting the AAA. Once I pulled out a plain bottle of Ancient Age 90proof and my buddy I was going to drink it with pulled out a Mountian Dew. I asked him why he said he needed something to drink it with. I said this Isn't Jim Beam you won't need that , and as it turned out he didn't!

ratcheer
07-14-2002, 07:55
Yes, back in the early 70's when I was a very young man and couldn't afford anything expensive, I fairly quickly found about three bourbons that were tasty and inexpensive. They were easy on the tongue, too. Those were AAA, Old Forester 86 proof, and Henry McKenna.

When I was younger than that, I had been used to pretty bad whiskeys such as Early Times (which was still actually bourbon, then), Rebel Yell, and Old Hickory (a Pennsylvania-produced straight bourbon). I suppose I thought it was just a manly thing that you had to suffer the burn and choke it down in order to get the desired effect, which at the time was drunkenness. We would mix with just about anything to try to make it easier to drink: Coke, Seven Up, orange juice, even apple juice.

When I was a freshman in college, a new friend from Kentucky saw me drinking Rebel Yell and suggested I try Old Fitzgerald, instead. Even though it was from the same distillery (Stitzel-Weller) and wasn't that much more expensive, it opened my eyes to the quality things in life. I have never gone back to the "cheaper or bigger is better" way of doing things.

Tim

P.S. - I filled in a request form at my ABC store, yesterday, asking them to stock some Rock Hills Farms bourbon. It is on the official state list, so it should just be a matter of them getting some in. Maybe in a month or two, I'll be able to taste some.

bluesbassdad
08-03-2002, 13:07
After a few days of dutifully (well, that's not quite the right word http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif ) drinking bourbons such as Old Forester 100, Old Fitz BIB (I'm still not sure about that one), Virginia Gentleman red label, and Wild Turkey 101 (IMHO, unbeatable at the price), this afternoon I broke out the Rock Hill Farms. No fancy-shmancy tasting, just drinking.

Even so I can't help but be intrigued by the flavors, some of which have become less obvious as the effect of the alcohol takes hold. Gingerbread? Could be. Has anyone else had that thought?

Oh, BTW, I don't see "Bottled in Bond" on my bottle, just pretty, gold horsies, and the legend "Single Barrel Bourbon".

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

**DONOTDELETE**
08-03-2002, 14:04
Check the proof on your bottle Dave, as there was once an 80 proof version. Try making Rock Hill Farms the first drink of the day and see if the gingerbread is still there. Are you keeping a small notebook of your tasting impressions? It's always interesting to look over old notes when revisiting a bottling.

bobbyc
08-03-2002, 14:09
When I saw this It seemed that something wasn't right. So I had to drop into the cellar to check something. My RHF has Bottled in Bond on a brown neckband , the chain that holds the little plate goes over this paper band so it would be hard to remove it . Maybe this is a touch they are now leaving off of RHF. Did you overlook it? http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif

bluesbassdad
08-03-2002, 16:02
Mine says "100 PROOF". It came from Sam's; so I assume it's fairly new stock.

***

No, I don't have the gumption to keep records, one of my lesser failings, really. I know I should, but no matter what the subject, any such attempt (motorcycle service, dog training, musical intruments) has always fallen into disuse within a few weeks.

Of course, as long as Jim keeps this forum going, at least I'll have a few records to refer back to.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

bluesbassdad
08-03-2002, 16:14
Well... It's been long enough since I opened this bottle that I really don't recall the answer to your question.

Right now all that's on the top portion of the bottle is a gold band with the letters RH inside a brownish circle. I certainly don't recall anything else, and I'm a sucker for neck hangers and such; I keep them all, even if they do get in the way while I'm pouring. (Well, to be honest, I did remove the airline bottle of Rare Breed that was hanging on the last bottle of WT101 I bought.)

IIRC, there was nothing but a transparent plastic seal around the matching flanges on the top of the bottle and the bottom of the stopper. It's a good thing it was there, too. The cork lining on my stopper is not well formed, making for a rather poor seal.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

MurphyDawg
08-03-2002, 18:31
Right On Dave! Thats Exactly what I was going to say. . . I have record to revisit here (an I have reread them while tasting the bourbon at hand) of almost all the whiskeys I have tried. Another reason this forum is such a GREAT resource to bourbon lovers.


TomC

jeff
12-30-2002, 13:48
Had my first taste of this the other night at Nicholson's. I am impressed with another quality bourbon from BT, but I must admit that to me the taste is identical to Eagle Rare 10yo SB. That is not a bad thing, but just the first time that I have experienced the situation. Maybe it is due to the high-corn mashbill, because I get a lot of "green" corn in both. Anyone else taste the similarities?

bluesbassdad
12-30-2002, 14:17
Jeff,

I had not noticed a similarity, but then it's been a few months since I've drunk RHF.

A few days ago, when I tipped my ERSB 10 for about the tenth time, I was struck by its cognac-like quality, whatever that means. (Perhaps the sweetness of corn more closely resembles grapes than it does rye.) I recall thinking, "This is the Macallan 12 of bourbons", meaning that it reminded me of the sherry influence that Mac is noted for. I also thought it similar to Buffalo Trace, which would be consistent with a similarity to RHF.

Now I'll have to have a few drops of my nearly empty bottle of RHF, which I have been saving for just such a necessity.

As an aside, I now have almost a case of assorted bourbon bottles, each with not more than two or three fingers left. My intent as I started my explorations a few months ago was to identify perhaps ten must-have bourbons, based on taste and value, and then not bother to replace the rest. I kept a little of each of the missed-it-by-that-much contenders, so I could give each of them one last chance.

When last I tasted RHF, I rated it very good, but not a great value at the price. Since then I have drunk a bottle each of WT101, Russell's Reserve, and Kentucky Spirit (and bought a new one or two of each of them), I've finished what may turn out to be my one and only bottle of Blantons, I've tasted Kentucky Pride, I've sampled George T. Stagg, and I've sampled Hirsch 20 year-old. With all of that palate-educating experience as a backdrop, It will be interesting to see whether RHF tastes even a little bit like I remember it.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

ratcheer
12-30-2002, 16:29
Dave,

When I tasted Eagle Rare SB I also noted a distinct similarity to cognac.

Tim

**DONOTDELETE**
12-30-2002, 21:15
Jeff did you perform a blind taste test between the two? To my palate Rock Hill Farms and Eagle Rare are very different flavor profiles. I buy Rock Hill Farms, but don't buy the Eagle Rare Single Barrel. I do like the 17 year old Eagle Rare very much and wish I could afford a case of that magic stuff. Ditto that for George T. Stagg.

jeff
12-31-2002, 05:33
No, and I guess I should the next time the oportunity presents itself. I had been drinking ERSB the night before. Ordered the RHF and based on my memory I thought I was drinking the same thing. Last night I was drinking a little BT and I could taste subtle similarities to the ERSB and RHF, so I guess it is just the similarities in the mashbill that made them seem the same on a different night in a different place http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif

bluesbassdad
01-02-2003, 14:54
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Anyone else taste the similarities?


[/QUOTE] Jeff,

I'm tryin', man; I'm tryin'.

I just got out my pair of Glencairn glasses (which I haven't used much lately for just plain drinking), and I poured about a half-ounce of each.

The nose is quite different between the two. Now I get to struggle with my vocabulary as I try to express the difference.

First of all, I am shocked to discover that initially I find the ERSB more pleasant to nose. I've previously described it as "cognac-like", but that's really an inadequate description. It's more like your "green corn", but with a substantial dose of caramel and vanilla, which, to my nose takes most of the "green" edge off the "green corn". I guess I can't get completely away from the grape connection; it really does remind me of the aroma of a recently emptied sherry barrel (a huge thing, it was) I smelled once on a winery tour.

I find that the RHF at first leans toward a more spicy, fragrant nose, perhaps lemon grass. With continued nosing I guess my smeller goes numb to that aroma, and the sweet, caramel, barrel aromas come to the fore.

On the palate the ERSB is more like your "green corn" than I expected from the nose. It is zestier than the nose suggested to me. That zest, for want of a more desciptive term, continues into the finish, fading without changing significantly.

On the palate the RHF is powerful, yet mellow, while carrying on all of the same notes that form the basis of the nose. The finish turns dry and wood-like, but in a subdued way that I find very pleasant. It fades to that oily, Walnetto-like taste that I have come to enjoy so much in other bourbons.

I would bet you a bottle of GTS that you would have no difficulty noticing differences in a side-by-side tasting. If you get a chance to do so, please write some notes for us. I hope you can make more sense of the differences than I have.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

jeff
01-02-2003, 15:36
Thanks for the notes Dave,

I am sure you're correct in your findings as I will discover soon I hope. I guess there is always the possibility that I got the wrong pour from the bar, as I was at Leslie's Christmas Party and wasn't paying attention. But I doubt it. I pick up strong similarities in all of the BT bourbons. They all have that subtle "green-corn" taste I have described. Some not so subtle. My glass of RHF followed a glass of Pappy 20yo, which was so different from bourbons that I have been drinking lately, that I might have picked up on the Mashbill notes more than I normally would have, and simply transposed the ERSB taste, which I had been drinking the night before, onto my palate. I need to taste RHF again with an unadulterated tongue. Maybe that well be my weekend project. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/tongue.gif

**DONOTDELETE**
01-02-2003, 21:07
Jeff I'm out of Roch Hill Farms at the moment, but do us all a favor and try this blind three way shootout - George T. Stagg; Rock Hill Farms, and Eagle Rare 17 year old. The single barrel version is good, but I think the 17 year old is much better and deffinately in the bourbon big leagues. Taster up! SteeeRike Bleeee! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

Ken Weber
01-08-2003, 07:54
Jeff,
You have made an interesting observation. When I am in the tasting lab, sometimes I have a difficult time telling the difference between various single barrel brands. Other times the differences are as obvious as day and night. I guess sometimes my taster and sniffer are in high gear and other times my A game deserts me! But to provide some additional information. The Eagle Rare 10 year old Single Barrel comes from our BT #1 "rye mash" bourbon recipe, while Rock Hill Farms comes from BT #2.

You are correct in your statement that both appear to have a high corn content. While I can not divulge the percentage used, I can say that they are within 8 points of each other. The next time we have the Straighbourbon Gang over, I will conduct a grid tasting. The first sample is our Rain Vodka, made from 100% organically grown corn. Talk about corn sweetness! The interesting point is that this corn sweetness is also present in our bourbons (though to a lesser degree). As the bourbon ages, this sweetness is diminished and becomes one of several layers making up the taste profile. The barrels also contribute a sweetness in the form of vanilla and caramel. The bottom line is that several components contribute to the sweetness of a bourbon. Our goal is to balance this flavor attribute with the right amount of oak, char, smokiness, and other contributing factors.

RHF is generally a bit younger than ERSB and it is pulled from different warehouse locations. So there is a similarity between the bourbons, but there should also be distinct differences.

Ken

jeff
01-09-2003, 19:02
Ken,
I need to do a side-by-side comparison and I think I would recognize the differences. IMHO all of the Buffalo Trace bourbons have simlar style; and I like it http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif Except for AAA. To me it seems to have a different taste profile than the other BT offerings. Tell me, why is it so hard to find the AAA 107 proof bottling here in Lexington? Is this still being produced?

bluesbassdad
09-14-2003, 11:56
Discussion seems to be on the wane right now, what with many of our most active participants preparing to depart their homes for the 2003 Bourbon Festival in Bardstown. Consequently, I decided to meander through old threads this morning, and this one caught my interest.

Could it be that the aforementioned grid tasting (I'm not quite sure what that means) will occur during the special StraightBourbon.com event at Buffalo Trace? I will eagerly await reports on that outing.

BTW, in this or some related thread I said that I probably wouldn't replace my first bottle of Rock Hill Farms, considering the price. I lied. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

kitzg
09-18-2003, 07:40
Well it was a good lie, Dave, since Rock Hill Farms is one of our (Jo and my) favorites. She even had me got buy one of the "old" bottles with the little chain around it and now she wants to save it and not drink it like our signed bottles.

A grid tasting does mean placemats with little cirles so you can mark each bourbon and compare straight rye whiskey with rye mashbill bourbon with wheated bourbon etc. That's what they did when we were at BT last year.

I am sorry to be missing the BT tasting this year http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
but I am very grateful to BT for hosting JO and I for about four hours earlier this Spring http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif. I'll catch up with our group on Saturday http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

WEG3
09-18-2003, 13:09
Well having heard good things about this pour , I found a decanter of RHF at a local bottle shop . In a weak moment I bought a bottle of Pappy 20yr , and this bottle of RHF. I found it to be very much like ORVW 10yr , 107 , but thinner and abit warmer in finish , a good change but not good enough to replace my much be loved http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif ORVW 107...

Bill G.

bluesbassdad
09-19-2003, 09:57
Bill,

I've read posts that mention different proofs for RHF, and BIB or not. Just out of curiousity, what proof is your bottle?

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

WEG3
09-19-2003, 20:00
It is the decanter with 3 scenes of horses in gold and ectchings, label on back 100 proof ...
bill g

bluesbassdad
09-20-2003, 02:41
Sounds like both the bottles I've owned.

Others have spoken of a lower proof version and a BIB bottling.

Yours truly,
Dave Morefield

ratcheer
09-20-2003, 07:13
I have only ever seen the BIB RHF.

Tim

kitzg
09-21-2003, 08:33
Dave, I've bought all of my Rock Hill Farms in Kentucky and it's all 100 proof. The older bottle has a gold chain around the neck and the neck band states "Bottled in Bond." The newer bottle has the engraved horses and while 100 proof does not carry the neck band -- but does state BIB on the outside box.

The distillery told me some time ago that a few years ago they ran out of bourbon for RHF. The took the pause while waiting to change the package. My wife, Jo, likes the old package so well we stopped at stores in KY until we found it and I bought a bottle for her. Now she keeps it as a collector and won't drink from that bottle.

Yet, just yesterday (9/20) I had a pour of RHF at Xavier's restaurant and bar in the basement of Spalding Hall, Bardstown. (Spalding Hall is the center of the Bourbon Festival.) They were pouring from the old bottle with the chain. So it is not a fast mover there.

I've never seen a RHF that was not 100 proof.

brendaj
09-21-2003, 15:04
Greg,
Doesn't the new packaging have a stopper that can double as a shot dispenser? At the GAZEBO the other night, someone (whoever you are, please forgive me...I had alot of fun... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif) on the forum told me the new stopper will hold a shot.
My bottle is older also. But, the one I saw at Toddy's a couple of days ago has a hollow top.
Bj

MurphyDawg
09-21-2003, 16:25
I know I mentioned the stopper to someone, So it mighta been me!


TomC

WEG3
09-21-2003, 20:53
Yes the stopper is hollow and I guess you can use it as a shot measure if you have to , ...but who measures ? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif My eyes still work ,,,,and that old clip of W.d. Fields and 3 fingers _&gt; http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Bill G.

brendaj
09-22-2003, 07:42
Bill,

and that old clip of W.d. Fields and 3 fingers


Booker Noe once said, "a real gentleman never pours more than 2 fingers of Bourbon in his glass at one time. It's lucky I have such fat fingers."
http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif
Bj

WEG3
09-22-2003, 18:33
LOL
Would you believe me the the bottom of the glass is one finger thick ? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
no? http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif ,,, did not think so ..lol
Bill G.