View Full Version : A contest of sorts

05-25-2008, 15:34
Attached are a few pics I snapped recently.
There is no prize, other than getting the news about some new American Whiskey.

Here are the pics.

Can you guess?
1. What City and State
2. Who owns and will operate the equipement
3. What they will likely produce

The first pic is the smaller of two similar vessels that will be used together. The second pic are the reflux towers. The third is the access port to the smaller vessel.

Any takers??

05-25-2008, 16:46
I'll try.

1. Bardstown, KY
2. Kentucky Bourbon Distilleries and/or the Kulveens
3. Bourbon

05-25-2008, 18:20
Okay, lets see how crazy a guess I can come up with

1 Owensboro, Ky
2 Angostura

Okay, so that's not so crazy yet

wait for it

almost there

pretty soon

3 Whiskey in the Irish style

Irish Whiskey, made in Kentucky, by a company from the Caribbean.:lol:

05-25-2008, 18:30
Ed, my first thought echoed Timothy's, but -- knowing your soon-to-be neck of the woods, Tuthilltown in Gardiner, NY, also came to mind.
If the latter, they'll use it to make a wide range of whiskeys and spirits, as they're already doing.

05-26-2008, 03:45
We have the state.
It's Kentucky.
The city remains to be identified.

The style is exactly right. It will be Irish Style Whiskey.

When you get the city, the owner/operators become easier.


05-26-2008, 05:13
The city remains to be identified.

How about Owensboro?


05-26-2008, 06:25
Seems there was an operation being talked about in Paducah, KY, but I don't remember who was involved in it.

05-26-2008, 07:58
And isn't Laura Lee Brown (of Brown-Forman association) invested in a new development in Louisville that will include an operating distillery?

05-26-2008, 08:00
The Paducah operation (actually, nearby Hickman, KY I understand) is a venture of Memphis, TN attorney Ray Jamieson.

Could the Irish-sounding surname of Mr. Jamieson suggest he is setting up plant to make an Irish-type whiskey in addition to the previously announced bourbon? I don't know.


05-26-2008, 08:08
No Headway yet.

But Tim is closer, regionally, than anyone else.

05-26-2008, 09:25
Well, this is just a guess, but since Buffalo Trace in Frankfort will be releasing a rum soon under the BTEC banner, might this equipment be planned for the Irish-style whiskey mentioned?


05-26-2008, 10:29
Getting Warmer!!!

BTW: As far as I know, only one other person on this board has knowledge of this info.

This is really really new and all very techy.

05-26-2008, 10:35
I have no guess. However I will comment that although I am enjoying the thread content the Supreme Court has findings against cruel and unusual punishment...

05-26-2008, 11:25
I'll take one more shot at it:

Boston, and Beam.

It's about the only style of whiskey that's currently missing from their portfolio.

05-26-2008, 12:02
What's Dave Pickerell up to these days?:skep:

05-26-2008, 13:04
What's Dave Pickerell up to these days?:skep:

Pickerell the former Maker's Mark Master Distiller?
I read here on the boards that he will be distilling a wheater bourbon in Wyoming for someone.
Sounds like a great job for both location and job tasks.

05-26-2008, 13:12
Dave PIckerell doesn't have anything brewing with this deal.

But a former employee of Powers Irish Whiskey does.

He's considered a lion among his peers.

05-26-2008, 13:49
Versailles Brown-Forman

05-26-2008, 14:00
But a former employee of Powers Irish Whiskey does.

I am now getting very interested.
Are you hinting that someone is going to be distilling Irish whisky in Kentucky?
I'm in, I have plenty of glasses to pour it into.

Or maybe they are coming in from over the pond to make bourbon?
Yeah, very interested.

05-26-2008, 14:14
Is Barry Walsh perhaps doing a joint venture with Buffalo Trace to make pure pot still whiskey in Kentucky?

However and whomever is doing this, it is an interesting idea. I gave the link some time ago to an 1860's story in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle about a venture designed to do just that on Long Island. (I don't know if it ever got off the ground).

Duffy's Pure Malt Whisky, made in the Rochester, NY area in the later 1800's and early 1900's, was some kind of barley whiskey although I think it had a high degree of rectification.

The Feckin whiskeys I mentioned recently are (or one of them certainly, the unflavored one, is) an Irish whiskey being distributed by a company out of Minnesota.

There are numerous Irish-style red and other beers you can get in America.

In other words, the old attachment of America to Ireland and its products is still strong, and perhaps it is felt this style of whiskey will take off here. I wish them well, it is a good idea.


P.S. The iconography of those 70's Old Fitzgerald bourbon decanters also traded on the old ties to Emerald Isle.

05-26-2008, 14:18
And the other thing is, no need to ship expensively ex-bourbon barrels over to Gaelic lands to fill them with pot still whiskeys.

Just roll 'em up to that Jules Verne-looking contraption over in the shed next door!


05-26-2008, 14:43
Interesting, as Louisville, KY just became the Sister City of Bushmills, Ireland.

05-28-2008, 05:35
Well, B-F Woodford is even closer.

So you're getting hot.

Interesting Idea from Gary that someone from across the pond might be at the helm. That's exactly correct. This guy had The Power at a major distillery.

An the barrels wouldn't have to be shipped anywhere since this site has some used cooperage on site. In fact, some has been used twice. (Biggest Hint Yet)

05-28-2008, 05:37
Barton's Early Times? It's somewhere in L'ville.


05-28-2008, 05:38
Early Times would be a good guess if the barrels were used for whiskey. But they're not.

05-28-2008, 06:15
Heaven Hill, Bernhiem?

Are those Christian Brother's Brandy Barrels you're referring to?

05-28-2008, 06:29
Belay that...I think I've got a better one:

Four Roses. Lawrenceburg. Kirin Holdings owns Martell Cognac (or did).

05-28-2008, 07:07
I'll go back to Timothy's earlier point, Christian Brothers. Could a former Irish Distiller's executive be doing a JV with HH to make an Irish-style whiskey in B'town? If so, raise a hurrah, the return of distilling to Heaven Hill's original site. I know the names of a number of execs at Irish Distillers, highly skilled at making or blending Irish whiskey, but I believe they are all still with that company (which makes Jameson, Powers).


05-28-2008, 09:45
Versailles is hot
Louisville is warm
Owensboro is cold

We were heading in the right direction for awhile.

Louisville is not the site, nor is Versailles for that matter.

Yet, the barrels, although filled in Louisville, resided in Versailles before moving on to this third site.

05-28-2008, 10:17
Then its Altech's Lexington Brewery in Lexington. I recall their CEO/Owner is from Dublin. And they age a beer in bourbon barrels.


05-28-2008, 10:18
Well, I guess Jimmy & Co. could be up to something in Tyrone...

05-28-2008, 10:24
Randy has it.

Dr. Pearce Lyons, the CEO of Alltech is in fact an alumnus of both Powers Irish Whisky and Guiness stout.

He is driiving this new project along with brewers Chris Byrd, Adam and Robyn.
They've bought an entire block of property next to the existing Kentucky Ale Brewery, which currently brews Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Ale, aged in Old Forrester (Woodford Reserve) barrels.

The proximity of the this distillery to the Town Branch (a creek) ties it to Lexington's distilling history, with two defunct distilleries within blocks of this site.

This is truly an exciting and bold move by Alltech.

05-28-2008, 10:34
That is very interesting. I look forward to seeing the results of this venture.

05-28-2008, 10:36
Tres cool. But I hope they do not limit themselves to Irish-style whiskey.


05-28-2008, 11:06
I suspect they will for while.
They've been brewing for 8 years and basically make one style of beer, a cross between an Irish Red and a English Bitter.

But that's completely conjecture on my part.

Do you think they can re-use barrels that have had beer in them?

05-28-2008, 12:52
Oh yes, for finishing at least, and a number of Scotch whiskies have been released finished in a similar way. Grant's Ale Cask was finished in casks that held beer (although I am not sure you can taste it). Signatory (well known Scottish whisky merchant) bottled an Ardmore single malt, 10 years old, in a barrel that had held kriek beer!

As for maturation from the outset, I would think they might scour and re-char the barrels that had held beer, but I'm not sure.


dave ziegler
06-02-2008, 11:32
This sounds very Interesting to me also and I look forward to seeing how they do in this bold Venture!
Dave Z
Old Hickory America's Most Magnificent Bourbon