Master_Photog Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I'd start with the PRC, a bit lower abv, probably a bit sweeter, though I can't recall if I had the '09 Mariage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Photog Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 Thanks SKU! I hope to get feedback on some that have had the 2009 FR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronWF Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Open them both. Drink the PHC. Wait two* weeks. Now drink the Mariage.*might need more than 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 The Four Roses is very good. The Parker's is exceptionally good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Oh, I was thinking you were asking what order to drink in a tasting. I get it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbon Boiler Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Beautiful pic btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trumpstylz Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 My buddy said? "whichever is lower proof". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bourbon Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Brother, you have more thankful fo than what you know. It's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Photog Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 There was a hidden reason in the question that I'll reveal now. I'm keeping one and giving one as a gift.The receiver of the gift is a novice bourbon drinker that has recently started to appreciate and enjoy it.I've been an avid bourbon drinker and know what I like and know what I don't like. So, I was curious which one I would appreciate and which one he would appreciate as a novice.If this helps:I really like -Russell's Reserve 10yrPappy 15ry Family ReserveWoodford ReserveOld Potrero 15 yr. Hotaling'sOld Potrero 18th Century RyeWhistlepig RyeI DO NOT care for -WT 101Booker'sRip Van Winkle 10yr 107 proofWH HarrisonHope this gives you an idea which of these two I would really like to keep for myself and the one to give as a gift.chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Photog Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 The Four Roses is very good. The Parker's is exceptionally good.Thanks Chuck - I was told by the retailer that he had not tried the Parker's Heritage Collection that I picked up. He advised me that last year's was a wheated bourbon as this 2011 that I got was not.Any truth to that? If so, have you had an opportunity to try both?Just curious if there's a significant difference in comparrison.Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman1099 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Hey Chuck,Given your likes/dislikes, I recommened you keep the 4 roses and gift the PHC....Awesome pic as usual my friend !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restaurant man Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 There was a hidden reason in the question that I'll reveal now. I'm keeping one and giving one as a gift.The receiver of the gift is a novice bourbon drinker that has recently started to appreciate and enjoy it.I've been an avid bourbon drinker and know what I like and know what I don't like. So, I was curious which one I would appreciate and which one he would appreciate as a novice.If this helps:I really like -Russell's Reserve 10yrPappy 15ry Family ReserveWoodford ReserveOld Potrero 15 yr. Hotaling'sOld Potrero 18th Century RyeWhistlepig RyeI DO NOT care for -WT 101Booker'sRip Van Winkle 10yr 107 proofWH HarrisonHope this gives you an idea which of these two I would really like to keep for myself and the one to give as a gift.chuckSafe bet is to keep the 4 roses. One with such specific tastes may not Love the barrel finished Parker's. Plus i'm sure your friend will want to share with you and you'll get a fair share of the "experimental" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcg9779 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Thanks Chuck - I was told by the retailer that he had not tried the Parker's Heritage Collection that I picked up. He advised me that last year's was a wheated bourbon as this 2011 that I got was not.Any truth to that? If so, have you had an opportunity to try both?Just curious if there's a significant difference in comparrison.ChuckThat is correct. The PHC 2010 was a wheated bourbon at cask strength. The 2011 is a bourbon that was finished in cognac barrels and is 100 proof. Very different whiskeys. While I like the PHC 2011 a lot, I think that the PHC 2010 is the best out of the five PHC versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Tough choice, both very good. But wanted to comment as others did that the picture is great.Best regards, tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Lamplighter Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Great pic, tough choice(s). It would be nearly impossible for me to part with either. To keep & open both, I would start with the lower proof PHC and after it settles in, go for a nice pour of the 4R. Great Bottles!:toast: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trumpstylz Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 The receiver of the gift is a novice bourbon drinker that has recently started to appreciate and enjoy it. I personally would not give something that expensive to a novice unless i had stacks of cash lying around that I needed to burn. I would gift a 30 or 40 dollar bottle. But thats just me.Wouldn't be a bad idea either though if he kept the bottle for a long time and kept track of how his views on it changed over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bourbonNOOG Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 The PHC is still readily available and probably will be for a little while longer. The FR 2009 is very hard to find and extremely good. The PHC barrel finish is so so in my opinion. Dull in comparison to the 2010 wheater.Those are both very expensive bottles to gift to a newbie. I would buy them something more entry level and maybe open one of these bottles and enjoy it with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Keep the Parker's. You need experience to appreciate it. The 4R will stand on its own.HH makes two bourbon recipes, one that uses rye as the flavor grain and one that uses wheat. The 2010 PHC was the wheat recipe. The 2011 in the rye recipe. The rye recipe bourbon is what's sold as Evan Williams, Elijah Craig, and others. They started to make the wheat recipe when they acquired Old Fitzgerald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivto Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 The Four Roses is very good. The Parker's is exceptionally good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Photog Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 I'm starting to lean toward keeping the two bottles based on the logic I've been reading. I too agree that gifting one of these to a newbie may be a disservice to being properly introduced (thru the ranks) to lower end, middle of the road and complex bourbons.I think a bottle of RR would be a great gift!The 10 Year Russell's Reserve is my little unsung hero. I love that bourbon and I'll put it near the top of any list of 10! Not to mention its price point!Thanks all, I'm still gathering data and will keep you all posted on my decision.Other ideas/thoughts or gifted bourbon suggestions for my buddy are welcome.Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronWF Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Keep the Parker's. You need experience to appreciate it. The 4R will stand on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 That's an interesting stance on the PHC cognac. I disagree that you need experience to appreciate it. I haven't had the pleasure of the '09 Mariage, but if it's anything like the other 4RLE's I've had, it will be complex and exotic. Everyone I've shared the PHC cognac with has enjoyed it, though I don't think anyone I know has enjoyed it as much as I have.I have to believe the PHC is the more accessible of the two, but Chuck's probably right that much of its pleasure will be lost on someone new to bourbon. With 4R, you either get it or you don't (though I actually don't know anyone who 'doesn't get' 4R).I'd parse that a little bit. I agree you know need experience to enjoy the PHC, I said you need experience to appreciate it, as in to grok what's so unusual and sophisticated about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I'm starting to lean toward keeping the two bottles based on the logic I've been reading. I too agree that gifting one of these to a newbie may be a disservice to being properly introduced (thru the ranks) to lower end, middle of the road and complex bourbons.I think a bottle of RR would be a great gift!The 10 Year Russell's Reserve is my little unsung hero. I love that bourbon and I'll put it near the top of any list of 10! Not to mention its price point!Thanks all, I'm still gathering data and will keep you all posted on my decision.Other ideas/thoughts or gifted bourbon suggestions for my buddy are welcome.ChuckThe RR is a good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neat Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Keep the Parker's. You need experience to appreciate it. The 4R will stand on its own.HH makes two bourbon recipes, one that uses rye as the flavor grain and one that uses wheat. The 2010 PHC was the wheat recipe. The 2011 in the rye recipe. The rye recipe bourbon is what's sold as Evan Williams, Elijah Craig, and others. They started to make the wheat recipe when they acquired Old Fitzgerald.chuck, any plans by HH to either improve old fitz bib OR come out with another line of wheated bourbons? they showed they can make very good wheated bourbons and they must see what BT is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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