Barrel_Proof Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I for one will be interested in the brand identification technology used by the undercover officers in this sting operation. Tomorrow's press conference should be interesting to say the least.http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/05/top-shelf_scheme_authorities_r.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alden Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 This has been going on for decades in places like TGI Fridays, Bennigans, etc.Why just now is it becoming a big sting operation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrel_Proof Posted May 23, 2013 Author Share Posted May 23, 2013 Why just now is it becoming a big sting operation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P&MLiquorsEric Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Mark Browns daily industry report had articles about counterfeit booze. With claims that 8% of booze sold worldwide was not genuine. The articles were geared more towards outright fakes and suggested laser etching as the only real solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Just think, if they had filled most of those bottles with Evan Williams Black label they might not have been caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosugoji64 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 If the clientele doesn't notice, does it matter? Yeah, from an ethical standpoint, it does. Still, with the drinks that most are ordering at Applebee's and TGI Friday's, I can't imagine it made any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBottle Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Oh man, I am pissed now that I found out TGI Fridays's was probably swapping out the high-end booze in my mudslides! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Ethics aside fraud and false pretenses are crimes and if the area chain stores are in it together it's criminal conspiracy.On the civil side I'm sure the Atlanta trial lawyers will think up some more stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosugoji64 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Ethics aside fraud and false pretenses are crimes and if the area chain stores are in it together it's criminal conspiracy.On the civil side I'm sure the Atlanta trial lawyers will think up some more stuff.I was making light of the subject, but it really is a terrible thing. Imagine if the restaurant were substituting Aldi stew meat for Kobe beef. The outrage would be devastating to those establishments. The press conference will be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_elliott Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 They don't do it in Iowa anymore but it used to be the law in Iowa that empty bottles had to be broke. Bars and restaurants would keep a divided box like you get from the liquor store behind the bar, put the bottle in it and punch the bottom out with a steel rod. I think they quit doing this when they added the $.05 deposit on the bottles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Those with larceny in their heart will cheapen the one on the shelf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinjoe Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Oh man, I am pissed now that I found out TGI Fridays's was probably swapping out the high-end booze in my mudslides! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 If one manager's profit margins are up the others will do what it takes to stay even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meruck Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 The simplest solution is to make all whiskey premium. See......problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I believe that's what they did, quickest way to age whisky is with a funnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/23/new-jersey-bars-filled-premium-liquor-bottles-with-cheap-booze-authorities-say/?intcmp=HPBucketNew Jersey bars filled premium liquor bottles with cheap booze, authorities sayPublished May 23, 2013Associated PressRead more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/23/new-jersey-bars-filled-premium-liquor-bottles-with-cheap-booze-authorities-say/?intcmp=HPBucket#ixzz2U8OriSxWStick with the regular tequila instead of the "premium". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alden Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Ditto.http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?20099-Operation-Swill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChainWhip Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Somewhat related (mods feel free to yank this post somewhere), I'd been reading recently about whisky counterfeit detection technologies (these stories came out around 2011):http://nanopatentsandinnovations.blogspot.com/2011/07/how-to-tell-real-whisky-from-fake.htmlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-15520904http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/physics/news/Panda_news/kd_Whisky_on_chip_31_10_11.phpBack on topic: I don't think counterfeiting is anything new in NJ (see the oh-so-historically-accurate "Boardwalk Empire" depictions of this practice) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Here a swill, there a swill, everywhere a whiff of swill, T.G. Friday's had a bar, Eee-yi, Eee-yi, Ohhhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 The latest news report says one of the bars served a Scotch that was made up from rubbing alcohol and caramel flavor/coloring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryT Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 The latest news report says one of the bars served a Scotch that was made up from rubbing alcohol and caramel flavor/coloring. What kind of flavoring? I mean - they might could argue they had improved it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richnimrod Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Seeeee, This is why I've always said it's so much better to buy new, full, unopened bottles of whatever high-end spirit you wish, take 'em HOME to dump 'em; then, refill 'em with your own swill, where the cleanliness and purity of your own rubbing alcohol can be trusted! Happy bar-hopping to all the poor fools who do that sort of thing, I guess. In all seriousness; I've always wondered what would prevent someone from 'stretching' their high-end liquors with some lower priced spirit; other than a moral compass... So Rare to find one of those these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinjoe Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) The latest news report says one of the bars served a Scotch that was made up from rubbing alcohol and caramel flavor/coloring. OK, Squire just Teed it up! Who wants to take the first hack! Oops, Sorry Gary. I see you stepped right up early! :toast: Edited May 24, 2013 by smokinjoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryT Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 OK, Squire just Teed it up! Who wants to take the first hack! Oops, Sorry Gary. I see you stepped right up early! :toast: That was lobbed nice and slow, right over the plate I'm more concerned by Richnimrod's remark . . . I've always wondered why he's so eager to serve me his "good stuff", when it never tastes nearly as good as I recall? :skep: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qman22 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 This is messed up. I don't like scotch, but I think I could tell if it was rubbing alcohol. http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/05/rubbing_alcohol_as_scotch_nj_o.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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