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P&MLiquorsEric Virtuoso

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The real question is whether it's legal for them to sell and if not the purchaser is engaging in a conspiracy to commit a crime.

Ding ding ding. A number if states would definitely say the person selling to ibuypappy is breaking the law. The issue is enforcement and reporting. If both parties are happy, no victim exists. Victimless crimes are nearly impossible to enforce.

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mosugoji64 Guru

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Wow. Props to you, dude, for having the balls to pop up here posting. If you've followed the forum for a while you couldn't possibly expect to get a lot of love around here. Still, I commend you for not lurking in the shadows. It's unfortunate that you chose that screen name as I'm sure it will haunt you, but I hope you'll stick around to contribute. I'm sure we'd all like to hear more from you, for better or worse. I mean that sincerely. We're a great group, but you have to know that you started at a significant disadvantage.

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wadewood Disciple

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Now I'd like to set some things straight especially with wadewood. It is LEGAL for anyone with a New York State Liquor license to buy wine or liquor from collectors as long as it is resold in New York and the buyer is made aware that he is buying a previously owned bottle. It is even legal to sell it outside of NY if you get permission from the locale where you are selling it to. I have a letter from the NYSLA stating that fact.

Then you should have no issue with me reporting you to the NYLA. As far as the NYLA giving you the authority to sell outside the state, what other states have given you the authority to do so? Also, you may be able to legally buy from a collector in New York, but anybody outside of New York is probably violating their state law by selling to you. Does your letter give you the right to purchase from those outside your state or only from those within it? You are new so probably can't post attachments yet, but PM copy of your letter and I'll post it here for all to see.

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MacinJosh Connoisseur

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Maybe he can hook you up with a new VWFRR, Winston. :P

Oh, that's just cold man. :)

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Balcones Winston Enthusiast

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Then you should have no issue with me reporting you to the NYLA. As far as the NYLA giving you the authority to sell outside the state, what other states have given you the authority to do so? Also, you may be able to legally buy from a collector in New York, but anybody outside of New York is probably violating their state law by selling to you. Does your letter give you the right to purchase from those outside your state or only from those within it? You are new so probably can't post attachments yet, but PM copy of your letter and I'll post it here for all to see.
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DBM Enthusiast

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I think most people would accept that acquiring and selling anything for a profit is simple business... The American dream. It's even fitting that we are talking about a classic American product. If anything, ibuypappy.com is riskier than a typical business model.What some don't like is that they (we) are being priced out of the market that was supported and appreciated before the hype. Also a position most people would understand.It's not so much right or wrong, just which side of the fence you want to hang out on.I enjoy picnics on both sides, depending on my mood.

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Trey Manthey Connoisseur

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...acquiring and selling anything for a profit is simple business... The American dream.

So that's what the American Dream is now?

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HighInTheMtns Disciple

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So that's what the American Dream is now?

Thanks Trey. This was needed.

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oke&coke Connoisseur

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Wow. Props to you, dude, for having the balls to pop up here posting. If you've followed the forum for a while you couldn't possibly expect to get a lot of love around here. Still, I commend you for not lurking in the shadows. It's unfortunate that you chose that screen name as I'm sure it will haunt you, but I hope you'll stick around to contribute. I'm sure we'd all like to hear more from you, for better or worse. I mean that sincerely. We're a great group, but you have to know that you started at a significant disadvantage.

+1 on that. It shows courage to voice your position to an audience that is at best unsympathetic or hostile at worst. I personally don't have a problem with what you are doing if all parties go into it with both eyes open. Some will never be swayed no matter how true or convincing your argument is. I think the biggest reason for it is the possibility of fraud on your or another parties part.

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Restaurant man Virtuoso

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It's no better or worse than ticket scalping. Which is illegal most places. I hate scalpers! post-7662-14489819270496_thumb.jpg

When the price creeps into the thousands, fake bottles will abound

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Restaurant man Virtuoso

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Anybody remember the idiots selling twinkles on eBay for two hundred a case? I didn't do it because I didn't want to get stuck with a case of twinkles. And to ibuypappy. Being that this site bans the commercial sales of alcohol, did you think that screen name was the best choice. Just sayin'

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MyOldKyDram Guru

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That redirects me to Ibuypappy. Either way, be it paying these prices or buying the Cock, I guess you're getting the shaft.

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HighHorse Enthusiast

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To think that all this fuss is about Pappy Van Winkle. It only makes me appreciate all the more a bit of OGD114 on ice. I keep a bottle under the desk in my garage and (so far) no one has tried to buy it or steal it. And the empty bottle. It goes in the recycle bin.

Fuck Pappy.

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Restaurant man Virtuoso

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To think that all this fuss is about Pappy Van Winkle. It only makes me appreciate all the more a bit of OGD114 on ice. I keep a bottle under the desk in my garage and (so far) no one has tried to buy it or steal it. And the empty bottle. It goes in the recycle bin.

Fuck Pappy.

Hey, thats my pappy your talking about :lol:

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squire Deity

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To think that all this fuss is about Pappy Van Winkle. It only makes me appreciate all the more a bit of OGD114 on ice. I keep a bottle under the desk in my garage

Just the one Jon?

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Quantum Enthusiast

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I just like that he has renamed the 10 and 12 on his website:

"Pappy Old Rip Van Winkle 10 Year"

"Pappy Old Rip Van Winkle Reserve 12 Year"

Anyone want to buy a bottle of "Pappy Old Weller Antique" for $100? I have plenty in stock.

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squire Deity

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Anyone want to buy a bottle of "Pappy Old Weller Antique" for $100? I have plenty in stock.

Hold on to those, they can only increase in value.

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I just like that he has renamed the 10 and 12 on his website:

"Pappy Old Rip Van Winkle 10 Year"

"Pappy Old Rip Van Winkle Reserve 12 Year"

Anyone want to buy a bottle of "Pappy Old Weller Antique" for $100? I have plenty in stock.

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MyOldKyDram Guru

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Does he have any of the Unaged Pappy, many years asleep without any wood?

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Does he have any of the Unaged Pappy, many years asleep without any wood?
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