cowdery Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I repeat, producers are prohibited from dictating distributor prices. What you may call 'gouging' is the invisible hand of the market working its magic. It's not a fireable offense. It's not even considered a bad thing. Think about what nightclubs charge for 'bottle service.' Regulators disfavor bottle service, but not because of the prices charged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oke&coke Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I repeat, producers are prohibited from dictating distributor prices. What you may call 'gouging' is the invisible hand of the market working its magic. It's not a fireable offense. It's not even considered a bad thing. Think about what nightclubs charge for 'bottle service.' Regulators disfavor bottle service, but not because of the prices charged.$400 for a $20 bottle of vodka, don't get me started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TunnelTiger Posted December 18, 2014 Author Share Posted December 18, 2014 I repeat, producers are prohibited from dictating distributor prices. What you may call 'gouging' is the invisible hand of the market working its magic. It's not a fireable offense. It's not even considered a bad thing. Think about what nightclubs charge for 'bottle service.' Regulators disfavor bottle service, but not because of the prices charged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danz Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 This also true with any manufactured product. Just try pricing something to a distributor in conjucntion with any other producer and see how fast Uncle Samm comes knocking on your door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 There are legal ways a producer can keep a distributor from undercutting the MSRP price, but not to prevent mark-ups. Regulators may set a price floor but never a price ceiling. There is, however, an exception for essentials during an emergency--such as gasoline after a hurricane--so I'm going to assume danz considers whiskey as an essential during an emergency, a fair assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.B. Babington Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 SB'ers are well prepared for whiskey shortages, so won't need FEMA handouts. Bunker few cans of corn with the bourbon and hold out for months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danz Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) There are legal ways a producer can keep a distributor from undercutting the MSRP price, but not to prevent mark-ups. Regulators may set a price floor but never a price ceiling. There is, however, an exception for essentials during an emergency--such as gasoline after a hurricane--so I'm going to assume danz considers whiskey as an essential during an emergency, a fair assessment.Chuck, I do not. I think I chose the wrong forum for an economic discussion.-Dan Z. Edited December 23, 2014 by danz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cards fan Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 It seems like DanZ is trying to talk economics and Chuck is telling the law side of things. Sounds like what you are saying Dan makes sense in theory, but isn't possible based on the law. Either way it doesn't sound like BT is ever going to tell off the people selling BTAC and pappy for crazy prices. For any flipper reading this forum I hear good things about the rum business. Lots of aged (15-20+) bottles just 1 aisle over sitting on the shelf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd2005 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 $400 for a $20 bottle of vodka, don't get me started.Pssst...you're not paying for the bottle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegator Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 For any flipper reading this forum I hear good things about the rum business. Lots of aged (15-20+) bottles just 1 aisle over sitting on the shelf.I second this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Tot Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 For any flipper reading this forum I hear good things about the rum business. Lots of aged (15-20+) bottles just 1 aisle over sitting on the shelf.I realize this was mostly a joke, but the rum world is much less regulated, and most age statements on rum aren't worth the label they're printed on. Some are.I don't think rums are going to skyrocket. Certainly not before their oft-cited undervalued cousin, armagnacs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd2005 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I realize this was mostly a joke, but the rum world is much less regulated, and most age statements on rum aren't worth the label they're printed on. Some are.I don't think rums are going to skyrocket. Certainly not before their oft-cited undervalued cousin, armagnacsShush you!Everyone knows rum is where the money is. Its the new Pappiez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amg Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Shush you!Everyone knows rum is where the money is. Its the new Pappiez!I heard that flavored vodka is where the serious collectors are going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Not just any old flavored vodka, the vintage stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Tot Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I hear anything by Mohawk is the dusty to get.Also, first edition Pie Hole has nowhere to go but up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cards fan Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Not just any old flavored vodka, the vintage stuff.+1. It was mostly a joke tot. It would be nice if something else took off though. That was my feeble attempt at getting it started. Maybe your Armagnac idea will be the one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulO Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I have to wonder, if this isn't so much about catching up as it is a changed business model. BT used to put out some really nice mid-shelf brands. The empirical evidence is now they are all about $50 and up bottles and bottom shelf dogs & cats brands. The only exceptions are their flagship brand and ER. I'm just not a big fan of either of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vadertime Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Mr. Brown had a lot to do with JD going International. I wonder if his goal is to push into the International market. If so, things are moving slower than he'd hope. Taiwan, the #2 Whisky market and #1 in growth, does not have a BT agent. I can't get anything but Fireball, Kentucky Gentleman and spoiled Blantons over here AFAICT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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