What bourbon are you enjoying? Fall 2016

[Golferpimp1]

WTRB for me tonight.

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[$helby]

Healthy pour of BT while watching Panthers game.   I had a ticket and was in Charlotte but decided to give it away and drive home this evening.  Got home about 5 minutes after kickoff.    No doubt the bourbon is much cheaper at the house than at the stadium! 

[BFerguson]

Some ETL after work earlier and moved in to a nightcap of VROHH.

B

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[Wedelstaedt]

Enjoying the last of an FC 103 6yr bottle, while watching UH put a whooping on Louisville 

[Charlutz]

Spent a little time with the cult tonight. Finished off a bottle of OESV 114.8 aged 9 yrs 5 months which had been a real favorite of mine and opened up an OBSK 105.2 aged 10 yrs 10 days. What a contrast in whiskey. Loved the silky smoothness of the OESV and very sorry to see if go. The OBSK is a beautiful rye spice kick and one I'll enjoy getting to know. Finishing my night with some ETL and a Girl Scout Samoa cookie, or whatever they are renamed. 

[flahute]

18 minutes ago, Charlutz said:

Spent a little time with the cult tonight. Finished off a bottle of OESV 114.8 aged 9 yrs 5 months which had been a real favorite of mine and opened up an OBSK 105.2 aged 10 yrs 10 days. What a contrast in whiskey. Loved the silky smoothness of the OESV and very sorry to see if go. The OBSK is a beautiful rye spice kick and one I'll enjoy getting to know. Finishing my night with some ETL and a Girl Scout Samoa cookie, or whatever they are renamed. 

The cult welcomes you to the fold.

[pwrmaster7]

Which should I open for thanksgiving to celebrate---- EC barrel proof, woodford corn, or four roses barrel proof? I cant decide!

[MTNBourbon]

6 hours ago, pwrmaster7 said:

Which should I open for thanksgiving to celebrate---- EC barrel proof, woodford corn, or four roses barrel proof? I cant decide!

ECBP!

[JTaylor]

1 minute ago, MTNBourbon said:

ECBP!

THIS! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[Golferpimp1]

ECBP!

I second that

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[pwrmaster7]

I guess the choice has been decided! lol. I did forget I have a jeffersons ocean cask strength up there too!. Ive been itching to open that ECBP anyway hah! Cheers!

[Clueby]

I'm debating between opening up a Stagg Jr. batch 6 (132.5) and an ECBP bath 12 (136) for Thanksgiving.

[Auracom]

One thing to really love about ECBP is that you can safely go for a big pour even if you're unsure you'll finish it that night. Cover your glass and return the next day. Like I'm doing right now with some batch 5. Even better than it was last night!

[Paddy]

^^^^Open all of 'em! 

 

It's Thanksgiving, after all! 

[smokinjoe]

30 minutes ago, Paddy said:

^^^^Open all of 'em! 

 

It's Thanksgiving, after all! 

^^^^Winner!!!!  Bounty of riches, cornucopia of delights, count and drink your Blessings, Firewater for the locals, and all that...

[MTNBourbon]

Have not touch this bottle for a very long time, way over a year. Very tasty!

Colonel E.H. Taylor Jr. Barrel Proof BIB (3rd Release 2014)  (129 Proof) 

[Clueby]

We need a like button for the above comments! Also, that Colonel Taylor is not bottled in bond. Bottled in bond is always a 100 Proof.

[$helby]

Just opened a bottle of RY10.   First impression is nice nose, smooth finish.   Light years away from standard RY.   Guess I will decide over the next several days whether or not to by a couple more for the bunker.     

[Golferpimp1]

WTRB.....first go at this....this is incredible, sweet enough and I love the kick. Learning I much prefer the turkey kick to the beam funk......

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[Queball]

1 hour ago, Clueby said:

... Bottled in bond is always a 100 Proof.

 

 

Not necessarily by Statute.

 

54th Congress, Second Session, Chapter 379, An Act To allow the bottling of distilled spirits in bond :

 

... and may whenever necessary reduce such spirits as are withdrawn for bottling purposes by the addition of pure water only to one hundred per centum proof for domestic use...

 

This passage in the Chapter can be interpreted to require a proof not less than 100, not 100 proof only.

 

Chapter 379 can be viewed here: http://www.loc.gov/law/help/statutes-at-large/54th-congress/session-2/c54s2ch379.pdf

 

Dean

[Clueby]

9 minutes ago, Queball said:

 

 

Not necessarily by Statute.

 

54th Congress, Second Session, Chapter 379, An Act To allow the bottling of distilled spirits in bond :

 

... and may whenever necessary reduce such spirits as are withdrawn for bottling purposes by the addition of pure water only to one hundred per centum proof for domestic use...

 

This passage in the Chapter can be interpreted to require a proof not less than 100, not 100 proof only.

 

Chapter 379 can be viewed here: http://www.loc.gov/law/help/statutes-at-large/54th-congress/session-2/c54s2ch379.pdf

 

Dean

I was not aware of that interpretation. I always understood it to be bottled at 100 Proof and that "only" referred to the water and not the proof. Are you aware of any BIB products actually released at a proof other than 100?  At any rate, I don't believe CEHTBP is labeled/released as a BIB product?  Doesn't diminish it in any way though.

[Queball]

Clueby,

 

You make good points, also. In my opinion, the Statute isn't worded precisely enough, as it allows differing interpretations of it. As for BIB products currently available, I am aware of none that differ from 100 proof. I'm willing to venture that several, which are bottled above 100 proof would qualify as BIB under the Statute.

 

I bring this entire subject up only as I have an interest in interpretation of laws, having worked for attorneys in a law office, and always enjoy a good legal discussion.

 

However, we probably should return this thread to its regularly scheduled programming!

 

Dean

[Harry in WashDC]

41 minutes ago, Queball said:

 

 

Not necessarily by Statute.

 

54th Congress, Second Session, Chapter 379, An Act To allow the bottling of distilled spirits in bond :

 

... and may whenever necessary reduce such spirits as are withdrawn for bottling purposes by the addition of pure water only to one hundred per centum proof for domestic use...

 

This passage in the Chapter can be interpreted to require a proof not less than 100, not 100 proof only.

 

Chapter 379 can be viewed here: http://www.loc.gov/law/help/statutes-at-large/54th-congress/session-2/c54s2ch379.pdf

 

Dean

 

The Federal regulation governing labeling, particularly 27 CFR § 5.42 - Prohibited Practices, in § 5.42(b)(3) sets out the requirements for putting "bonded" or "Bottled in Bond" etc on a label.  It explicitly says the spirits must, among other things, be bottled at 100 proof.  Here's the language -

 

§ 5.42 Prohibited practices.

 

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(b) Miscellaneous.

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(3) The words “bond”, “bonded”, “bottled in bond”, “aged in bond”, or phrases containing these or synonymous terms, shall not be used on any label or as part of the brand name of domestic distilled spirits unless the distilled spirits are:

(i) Composed of the same kind of spirits produced from the same class of materials;

(ii) Produced in the same distilling season by the same distiller at the same distillery;

(iii) Stored for at least four years in wooden containers wherein the spirits have been in contact with the wood surface except for gin and vodka which must be stored for at least four years in wooden containers coated or lined with paraffin or other substance which will preclude contact of the spirits with the wood surface;

(iv) Unaltered from their original condition or character by the addition or subtraction of any substance other than by filtration, chill proofing, or other physical treatments (which do not involve the addition of any substance which will remain incorporated in the finished product or result in a change in class or type);

(v) Reduced in proof by the addition of pure water only to 100 degrees of proof; and

(vi) Bottles at 100 degrees of proof.

In addition to the requirements of § 5.36(a) (1) or (2), the label shall bear the real name of the distillery or the trade name under which the distillery produced and warehoused the spirits, and the plant (or registered distillery) number in which produced; and the plant number in which bottled. The label may also bear the name or trade name of the bottler.

 

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Edited November 19, 2016 by Harry in WashDC

[MTNBourbon]

Again, at least a year since last I had some of this. For the last 3 nights, I've tried the highest proof bourbons I have. Still, this one is the smoothest of the bunch, easily, and the highest proof. More oak, definitely less cinnamon, less burn/hot finish. Also, this is one of the best if not the best bourbon I've had to date, very glad I still have another bottle in the bunker.

Elijah Craig 12 Yr. Old Barrel Proof (Batch 6) (140.2 Proof) 

Edited November 19, 2016 by MTNBourbon

[Queball]

Harry, thanks for posting that.

 

So the Federal regulation that interpreted the Statute specifies bottles labeled as BIB be bottled at 100 proof only.

 

So I guess I'll just take my interpretation and pour it into a Glencairn where it belongs........!

 

Henry McKenna 10 yr. BIB ought to do the trick.

 

Dean