meadeweber Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Looks like Campari is releasing a couple bourbons distilled at Wild Turkey. I really liked the price until I realized they were 375ml bottles. http://whiskyadvocate.com/2017/01/27/24091/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanstaafl2 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, meadeweber said: Looks like Campari is releasing a couple bourbons distilled at Wild Turkey. I really liked the price until I realized they were 375ml bottles. http://whiskyadvocate.com/2017/01/27/24091/ I didn't like the price all that much even if they were 750's. And I have no idea what this line means. "Although both bourbons were distilled at Wild Turkey, neither Jimmy nor Eddie Russell, Wild Turkey’s co-master distillers, were involved in their creation." But it is not particularly encouraging! Edited January 31, 2017 by tanstaafl2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meadeweber Posted January 31, 2017 Author Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 minute ago, tanstaafl2 said: I didn't like the price all that much even if they were 750's. And I have no idea what this line means. "Although both bourbons were distilled at Wild Turkey, neither Jimmy nor Eddie Russell, Wild Turkey’s co-master distillers, were involved in their creation." But it is not particularly encouraging! I would have been willing to give it a chance at that price for a 750 especially the Old Ripy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanstaafl2 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Seems more like an attempt by the suits at Campari to find another way to push into the Limited Edition craze with high priced semi-mystery whiskey. I still think I would take my chances with something made by at least one of the Russell's. Their lack of involvement in a Wild turkey bottling of any sort just seems weird, and therefore suspicious, to me. Not that I am paranoid or anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAGentleman Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I agree, it doesn't make any sense that the Russell's weren't involved at all. Wonder who the hell did it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Dusty Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 18 minutes ago, VAGentleman said: I agree, it doesn't make any sense that the Russell's weren't involved at all. Wonder who the hell did it all This guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flahute Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 hour ago, tanstaafl2 said: Seems more like an attempt by the suits at Campari to find another way to push into the Limited Edition craze with high priced semi-mystery whiskey. I still think I would take my chances with something made by at least one of the Russell's. Their lack of involvement in a Wild turkey bottling of any sort just seems weird, and therefore suspicious, to me. Not that I am paranoid or anything... ^^^^This. I'm going to need to read multiple reviews that proclaim how amazing it is (from trustworthy sources) before I consider paying that price for a whiskey that the Russells weren't involved with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 ^^^^Especially since they (Jimmy and Eddie) seem to have gone to the trouble to have them explain that they WERE NOT involved in this creative endeavor. Not that I'm paranoid, either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvd99 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, Paddy said: ^^^^Especially since they (Jimmy and Eddie) seem to have gone to the trouble to have them explain that they WERE NOT involved in this creative endeavor. Not that I'm paranoid, either! LOL!!! If you want some Turkey, go with some WT101 or RR and call it a day for a fraction of the cost and you'll get a full bottle to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeTerp Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 9 hours ago, tanstaafl2 said: "Although both bourbons were distilled at Wild Turkey, neither Jimmy nor Eddie Russell, Wild Turkey’s co-master distillers, were involved in their creation." I have no idea why anyone would consider that a positive. I would think that the Russell's involvement would be a huge plus for these products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richnimrod Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) For all the reasons stated already, I shall not zoom out and buy either of these offerings. At $50 a half-bottle, it's easy to pass, or at least await some information coming from folx not expecting to profit from the releases. It really is a head scratcher to see the publicity point out that the Russells weren't involved. The only logical reason I can readily see is that neither wants his name associated with these releases. That may not be the reason, but it's the only one I initially come up with. Hopefully, more info will materialize giving a better idea about the Russells, and hopefully some tasting notes will indicate why one or both of these releases is worth the premium asked... or why not. Edited February 2, 2017 by Richnimrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hop Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Price is set at $59.99 in VA - noticed them on their website yesterday - none available but coming soon - I'd say it's a pass for now anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clueby Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Saying that the Russells are NOT involved seems like a sneaky marketing way to GET their name associated with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinjoe Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I'm stumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbanzobean Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Read you Lima Charlie. Ignore these, continue purchasing whiskies the Russells WERE involved with. Out. Edited February 2, 2017 by garbanzobean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpiz Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) Also interesting because @VAGentleman indicated in an older thread that the Russells said they WERE involved. Edited February 2, 2017 by Kpiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAGentleman Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Thanks for refreshing my memory, that was almost a year ago. Very strange. I guess he never said he or his Dad were distilling it or working on it but still weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emr454 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 From the WhiskyCast Facebook page: If you heard the story about Campari's new Whiskey Barons series on this week's show, you heard me mention that while the Old Ripy and Bond and Lillard whiskies came out of Wild Turkey, Jimmy and Eddie Russell didn't have anything to do with the creation of these two whiskies. I cheekily mentioned that it's hard to understand how anything happens at Wild Turkey without Jimmy and Eddie being involved...and received this response just now from a Campari representative: "To bring back to life the Old Ripy and Bond & Lillard blends for the Whiskey Barons collection, Campari America conferred with T.B. Ripy IV and Tom Ripy, great-grandson and great-great-grandson of T.B. Ripy, and employed the talents of Norm Matella, Ph. D. and Campari America North American Technical Center Manager, and Robin Coupar, Campari America Global Whiskies Brand Ambassador. Together they analyzed historical documents, dipped into family archives and experimented with different blends to achieve a final product as close to the original whiskies as possible. The liquid was distilled at the Wild Turkey Distillery in Lawrenceburg, KY, which sits upon the same spot where the Ripy distillery once stood. Wild Turkey Master Distillers Jimmy and Eddie Russell were not involved with the creation of Old Ripy and Bond & Lillard, as they were fully committed with projects for Wild Turkey and Russell’s Reserve. However, moving forward, Eddie Russell will be pouring his passion and expertise into the development of future Whiskey Barons products while continuing in his award-winning role as Master Distiller and key product innovator for Wild Turkey and Russell’s Reserve." Link to page: https://www.facebook.com/WhiskyCast Still not enough to convince me to pay $50 for a 375, but interesting nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanstaafl2 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Might be great stuff but still not particularly interested until and when someone, or multiple someone's, who I know says it is worth a look. Or better yet somebody offers me a pour or two to try for myself! But not interest in "collecting" these bottles or buying them blind as I might have done in the past. Hmm, can bourbon zen truly be close at hand????? Nah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emr454 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Just now, tanstaafl2 said: Hmm, can bourbon zen truly be close at hand????? For me it is. I've never had the budget for LE's, and lately I'm content to bunker some discontinued brands and try to find bottles who recently lost their age statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flahute Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 55 minutes ago, tanstaafl2 said: Might be great stuff but still not particularly interested until and when someone, or multiple someone's, who I know says it is worth a look. Or better yet somebody offers me a pour or two to try for myself! But not interest in "collecting" these bottles or buying them blind as I might have done in the past. Hmm, can bourbon zen truly be close at hand????? Nah! But wait......I thought YOU were the guy who always took the plunge so we could read about it in the Wednesday tastings thread. Now what will we do? Harry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpiz Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 20 minutes ago, flahute said: But wait......I thought YOU were the guy who always took the plunge so we could read about it in the Wednesday tastings thread. Now what will we do? Harry? We're going to need an elaborate rotational program and A LOT of volunteers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emr454 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Just now, Kpiz said: We're going to need an elaborate rotational program and A LOT of volunteers I'm currently taking donations for review bottles. It's gonna be tough but I think I can manage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanstaafl2 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 46 minutes ago, flahute said: But wait......I thought YOU were the guy who always took the plunge so we could read about it in the Wednesday tastings thread. Now what will we do? Harry? Oh, I am still plunging! But if I do and it is going to be for mystery liquor of unknown provenance it is going to mostly be for some really weird stuff! If it is going to be for mystery bourbon it is going to need to have a better gimmick than Messrs. Ripy, Bond & Lillard are offering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCWoody Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Y'all know I'm a sucker, and will cull the fat chick. I want give notes, but I'll let you know if it's good...... I'm talking about the bourbon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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