cowdery Posted May 20, 2005 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Let me be the first. It's coming this fall and surely will be at the gazebo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNbourbon Posted May 20, 2005 Share Posted May 20, 2005 That's surely interesting. Can you divulge (if you know) the grain percentages of the mashbill? Taste profile? Comparisons to other 'wheater' bourbons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillman Posted May 20, 2005 Share Posted May 20, 2005 I await the answers too (although one surely is, a straight wheat whiskey must be at least 51% wheat in the mash) but want to say this, this is great for whiskey and its traditions. Wheat whiskey was a constant in the time up to Prohibition, there were "white" (young) versions and older ones. Good to see it back. Kudos to the Schapiras, Beams and all the team at Heaven Hill for trying something different but (at the same time) harking back to tradition.Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrel_Proof Posted May 20, 2005 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Can you divulge (if you know) the grain percentages of the mashbill? Comparisons to other 'wheater' bourbons? Do note, this is wheat whiskey, not a wheated bourbon, so we know that the mashbill includes at least 51 percent wheat and that there are currently no other wheat whiskies to which it can be compared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musher Posted May 20, 2005 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Is it safe to guess that this is coming to us thanks to Heaven Hill (since their distillery in Louisville bears the same name)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillman Posted May 20, 2005 Share Posted May 20, 2005 Yes, Mike, this is a Heaven Hill release.Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff Posted May 20, 2005 Share Posted May 20, 2005 there are currently no other wheat whiskies to which it can be compared. True, but this will serve as a nice counterpoint to rye whiskey and heavily ryed bourbons. I can't wait to try it. Any information on price point or availability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNbourbon Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 ...Do note, this is wheat whiskey, not a wheated bourbon...I did, indeed, note that -- but as it will be the only one of its type, the only comparison extant seems to me to be wheated bourbons. Not clear was my reference to 'other...', by which I meant 'other wheated', not 'other bourbons'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted May 21, 2005 Author Share Posted May 21, 2005 It is "barely legal" at 51 percent wheat, 39 percent corn and 10 percent malted barley. It is five summers old and will be bottled at 90 proof. It will start appearing in August/September initially in Kentucky, Texas, Georgia, Tennessee, Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, Pennsylvania, New York and Colorado.Tasting notes to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian12069 Posted May 21, 2005 Share Posted May 21, 2005 I would love to try this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 I'm glad that SC is among them, but how are these states chosen?Also, while bourbon, by law, has to be at least 51% corn, is the grain proportion of other whiskies specified?Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNbourbon Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 To be "bourbon", "rye" or "wheat" whiskey, the minimum for the naming grain must be at least 51%, but it can (and often is) more than that. So, no, only the minimum is specified. There are many different mashbills within each variety, but all must only meet the mininum specification for the naming grain.To be "straight" it also must also be aged in new, charred oak barrels for at least 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Here's a photo of the actual bottle, sent to me by Larry Kass of Heaven Hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rughi Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 So,The big question is: will civilians be able to purchase this wheatier wheat in mid-September - say the 14th-18? Because I didn't notice California listed as one of the anointed states.I'd hate to come all that way, virtually to the source, only to find it was for tasting only, and not for sale until a few weeks later.-Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bourbonmed Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Jeff/Chuck:Is it similar or identical to the Pogue bottle?Omar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Omar, From the picture it looks to me to be more similar to the Woodford Reserve bottle. Look out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted May 23, 2005 Author Share Posted May 23, 2005 I've only seen the same pictures you all have seen, but this seems to be a straight-sided flask-type bottle, whereas the Pogue bottle is tapered, if I remember correctly.I believe Bourbon Festival attendees will be able to buy all they want at Toddy's and other local purveyors. You can even contact Guthrie (at Toddy's) in advance and ask him to hold some for you. It should be available throughout Kentucky by mid-September, wherever you choose to shop.As for other states, I'm sure it's all about supply and demand. They want to see how it does in the initial states and how well their supply holds up before they start to offer it in other markets. Since this is a relatively young product and since they have been making it steadily since the first batch, unless it goes through the roof in the initial markets they'll probably roll it out further soon enough. As for when, where and how soon, it's not that they aren't saying, it's that they don't know. It all depends on what happens in the initial release states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koji Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 I didn't know when it was coming out so I didn't really know when to put this picture up, and I kind of forgot about it, I interviewed Craig Beam at Bernheim in 2003.Sep.17th and he showed me this sample bottle. On the bottle it says 2000.Jan.10, it was very rich in color and taste for a whiskey that young he told me it was 125 proof 51% wheat, aged all in Bardstown, and hopefully the product will be 5~6years when it was coming out as a product. I know this one is not gonna make it to the Japanese market, this was one goood whiskey(well at barrel proof it was)Can't wait till September. Koji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BourbonJoe Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Gary, I agree with your statement about praises for Heaven Hill. I, for one am anxiously awaiting the release. Since I live in Pennsylvania, I'll let you all know when it hits our shelves. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted May 27, 2005 Author Share Posted May 27, 2005 That's the stuff. The first batch was 129 barrels made in January of 2000.I have a little more information. The suggested retail price for Bernheim Original Wheat Whiskey will be $39.99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camduncan Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 This sounds intriguing - I can't wait to sample it.Does anyone know if it will eventually be marketed internationally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyc Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 The suggested retail price for Bernheim Original Wheat Whiskey will be $39.99. Proud of it, aren't they. So far I'm only intrigued enough to want a taste,I'll make up my mind after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrel_Proof Posted May 28, 2005 Share Posted May 28, 2005 The suggested retail price for Bernheim Original Wheat Whiskey will be $39.99. Proud of it, aren't they. So far I'm only intrigued enough to want a taste,I'll make up my mind after that. The price of novelty is dear, 'cuz the marginally higher cost of the grain sure ain't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boone Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 It's getting closer We just finished making the guides (for the filler) to run the new Bernheim Original They might fill them next week if all goes well Bettye Jo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miller542 Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 bump.Any new details? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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