SW Bourbon List?

[jeff]

I'm curious as to what extent the W.L. Weller 12 year old was ever made from S-W whiskey? Any way to distinguish current Weller 12 from the S-W batches, if there were any.

Thanks in advance for your answer(s).

I'm not sure when Weller 12 changed but I believe Ken Weber has stated semi-recently that there is still some S-W in the current bottling. Probably not much though and that might have changed with the new design.

[chasking]

If anyone can get there, The Northender liquor store in Springfield, Illinois, as of about a week ago had a bunch of bottles of David Nicholson 1843 on the shelf. This is a 7-year-old BIB from DSP-KY-16. They're selling it for under $15 a bottle.

[Sijan]

Would still like to find out how to tell an "early" Lousiville bottle of VSOF12 from a "later" bottle of VSOF12

See http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=63522&postcount=42

[cowdery]

Based on the information provided in the previous post, in particular the presence of the BHC collar, both would appear to be "early." I suppose you want to know which would be earlier, and there I can't help you. However, in the other post you asked if they are SW and I have to believe both are.

[Sijan]

Thanks for your answer. I don't care which one is earlier - they're identical as far as I can tell. I don't even know which one is which now. But glad to hear they're likely S-W whiskey.

[Big Chipper]

I can understand a reluctance on the old decanters but I did get an Old Cabin Still decanter off eBay a year or so ago that I find to be very nice whiskey. The cork disintegrated when I opened it but it had stayed reasonably intact enough to seal in all the goodness with no harshness left. I believe it was in a Ducks Unlimited decanter in the same style as the SW Irish series. (Not bad for a ten dollar bid back before the snipers started bushwhacking me.)

I just finished a 1969 hillbilly decanter that I got off of eBay for $4.99. It was truly a wonderful drink. If that was a six year old SW, then I can't imagine how good an old stock 10 or 12 year old would be. It ended up near the top of all bourbons I've had the pleasure of tasting. Pronounced alchohol in the nose...vanilla and spice...and a lonnnngggg finish. Beautiful!

[tmas]

Just curious, in the later bottlings of Antique 107 that don't show Louisville, Kentucky as their origin, what distillery does that bourbon come from? Thanks, Tom V

Hey, by the way, what happened to all those fun icons? 'Am I just missing how to access them? They were fun.

[BourbonJoe]

Just curious, in the later bottlings of Antique 107 that don't show Louisville, Kentucky as their origin, what distillery does that bourbon come from? Thanks, Tom V

Buffalo Trace in Frankfort.

[fussychicken]

• W.L. Weller Special Reserve 7yo (Louisville label)
  
• Old Weller Antique 107 (Louisville label)

I just found some Weller Special Reserve from what appears to be a 1994 bottling w/Lousiville label so I did a little digging and am now a little unsure of the above listing for the two Wellers.

Ken Weber said the following in this post: (http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=43640&postcount=21)

Just because the label says it is produced in Louisville, you still need to consider a few things. The Buffalo Trace Distillery distilled and aged some wheated whiskey for UD for nearly a decade before we actually bought the brand. Even after we purchased the brand, we continued using the former labels (with the Louisville address) because we had so many and the BATF gave us permission to use them up.

While early/mid 90's Weller is probably SW, late 90's Weller might not be even if it has the Louisville label. Is my analysis right in that late 90's Weller could be old SW, BT that was distilled for UDV, OR some of the first Bernheim?

Ken do you know what year BT starting making this wheated whiskey for UDV? Did you guys get any of the aging Bernheim stock when purchasing the Weller name? (If you are allowed to say of course )

[TomH]

Since this this is an older thread that has just been brought back to life, it should be noted that the postings relating to all Pappy 15 being S-W were true when written. However, according to Julian, there have been some bottles released recently that are not S-W.

Tom

[tango-papa]

Since this this is an older thread that has just been brought back to life, it should be noted that the postings relating to all Pappy 15 being S-W were true when written. However, according to Julian, there have been some bottles released recently that are not S-W.

Tom

Tom,

Can you add info to this?

Any way to tell when and which bottlings?

I'm just about to make a purchase of six bottles of Pappa 15 and will hold off now - at least until I can be sure that what I will be purchasing is in fact SW whisky.

~tp

[TomH]

Really not much to add to this. When Julian was in town for a tasting at a local store we talking about the Pappy 15 and how much longer it would be produced. He said that they had released a small amount of Pappy 15 recently with BT product. When I asked if there was any way to identify them he said no.

As someone else previously said in the thread, Julian does not put out bad bourbon, so I really wouldn't worry too much. If you are planning on buying several bottles, buy one and try it. It would be a pretty good assumption that all bottles sitting on a shelf should be the same, so if you like it buy some more.

Tom

[tango-papa]

Really not much to add to this. When Julian was in town for a tasting at a local store we talking about the Pappy 15 and how much longer it would be produced. He said that they had released a small amount of Pappy 15 recently with BT product. When I asked if there was any way to identify them he said no.

As someone else previously said in the thread, Julian does not put out bad bourbon, so I really wouldn't worry too much. If you are planning on buying several bottles, buy one and try it. It would be a pretty good assumption that all bottles sitting on a shelf should be the same, so if you like it buy some more.

Tom

Thanks - my primary 'bourbon' focus right now is all things SW, so unless I know these 15's are, in fact SW, I won't be purchasing them.

Maybe Julian will see this post and advise when the Non-15's were released.

~tp

[Joeluka]

Thanks - my primary 'bourbon' focus right now is all things SW, so unless I know these 15's are, in fact SW, I won't be purchasing them.

Maybe Julian will see this post and advise when the Non-15's were released.

~tp

You know he's in the business of SELLING Pappy 15's. If he thinks the bourbon is good enough to carry HIS name, then why would he help you to not buy his product. IMHO, I don't think Julian will be much help to you. I'm also betting that the non-S/W Pappy 15's are just as good as the other ones. Julian is gifted at picking out GREAT whiskey. Maybe you should trust him. Most SB.com members do.

[robbyvirus]

Just picked up these dusty shelf bottles last week...Two Cabin Still bottles, both tax-stamped, no barcode, from Louisville. I assume these are SW whiskey? I sampled one of them, and it's pretty tasty...the flavor doesn't linger around very long, but definitely better than today's "bottom shelf" brands.

[gothbat]

Before last night I had 1 open PVW15 and 2 sealed ones, now I just have 2 sealed. They were all purchased while I was under the impression that all PVW15 was 100% SW and the quantity I purchased was heavily influenced by this fact. Since then I’ve learned that they may not be SW and was a bit disappointed; I am a pessimist so I am just going to assume that all of the ones I have are not the SW ones since there is no way to know for sure really. Having said that the one that the one I finished last night tasted just as good as any other PVW15 I’ve had in the past and the disappointment I mentioned above faded shortly after it began once I began thinking about the bottles as 2 really good bottles for later rather than 2 possible SW bottles for later. I can see trying to bunker SW stuff but for this brand it seems pointless seeing as how all the bottles and their contents are pretty much identical anyway.

[boone]

Hi Rob :grin: :grin:

Check the bottom of the bottle for a date...

What a coninsidence :grin: :grin: :grin: I found these five liter's yesterday in Eastern Kentucky...

Bettye Jo

Just picked up these dusty shelf bottles last week...Two Cabin Still bottles, both tax-stamped, no barcode, from Louisville. I assume these are SW whiskey? I sampled one of them, and it's pretty tasty...the flavor doesn't linger around very long, but definitely better than today's "bottom shelf" brands.

[Barrel_Proof]

What a pretty sight, indeed, Bettye Jo! Just look at the color in those faux tax stamped Cabin Stills!

[tango-papa]

You know he's in the business of SELLING Pappy 15's. If he thinks the bourbon is good enough to carry HIS name, then why would he help you to not buy his product. IMHO, I don't think Julian will be much help to you. I'm also betting that the non-S/W Pappy 15's are just as good as the other ones. Julian is gifted at picking out GREAT whiskey. Maybe you should trust him. Most SB.com members do.

Wow, that was really helpful - thanks... :rolleyes:

[robbyvirus]

Hi Rob :grin: :grin:

Check the bottom of the bottle for a date...

Bettye Jo

I looked at the bottom of the bottles, and all it says is "Liquor Bottle", and then there's a circle with the number 81 in it...is that the date, maybe 1981??

[Hedmans Brorsa]

Wow, that was really helpful - thanks... :rolleyes:

T-P,

You have just committed the gruesome sin of assuming that the consumer has any rights at all.

You couldn´t be more wrong. On this forum (according to some), the customer is always wrong.

In the future, make sure that your wishes and desires concide with those of the businessman and all shall be well.

P.S good luck with hunting your S-W whiskies. It should be worth the while.

[Joeluka]

Wow, that was really helpful - thanks... :rolleyes:

No problem. I was wondering if Julian PM'd you with the info yet??? :slappin: :slappin: When he does would you share it with the rest of us? :lol:

[Joeluka]

T-P,

You have just committed the gruesome sin of assuming that the consumer has any rights at all.

You couldn't´t be more wrong. On this forum (according to some), the customer is always wrong.

In the future, make sure that your wishes and desires coincide with those of the businessman and all shall be well.

P.S good luck with hunting your S-W whiskies. It should be worth the while.

So I'm wrong?? :skep: :skep: :skep: You don't think Julian is good at picking whiskey?? Which brands do you prefer??? I guess I'm just a mark for all things Pappy. I haven't had a bad bottle of ORVW 10/90 & 10/107 and VWSR 12 since it stopped being S-W bourbon. I just assumed JVW was picking great bourbon for it. Now if you don't like it anymore, I can understand why you would demand JVW to tell you which bottle's would be no good for your purchase.

[Joeluka]

Wow, that was really helpful - thanks... :rolleyes:

So your going to spend the money or just go without Pappy 15 for the rest of your life???

[tango-papa]

T-P,

You have just committed the gruesome sin of assuming that the consumer has any rights at all.

You couldn´t be more wrong. On this forum (according to some), the customer is always wrong.

In the future, make sure that your wishes and desires concide with those of the businessman and all shall be well.

P.S good luck with hunting your S-W whiskies. It should be worth the while.

Thanks, I do enjoy the hunting...

And they heard him as he wandered into all the dusty old liquor stores...

"Here Stitzel, Stitzel, Stitzel... come to papa..."