MacinJosh Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Just a quick question on the (hopefully) soon-to-be-released Angel's Envy Cask Strength.1.) Is it a bourbon finished in port barrels just like the standard release, except, of course, bottled at cask strength?2.) Or did the spirit spend 100% of its time in port barrels, and therefore, was never a bourbon?I tend to believe #1. Since Lincoln and Wes aren't distilling yet, they would have had to purchase already aged bourbon (I would assume from Brown-Forman with the past connections and all) and then finish it in port barrels. I swear I thought I read somewhere that the AE CS was 100% port matured but that just doesn't sound right. If that were the case, they would have had to source new make spirit right? And they wouldn't be able to use the same label as the standard AE right? So the only difference between the two expressions is proof? I'm sure I'm overcomplicating this but I thought I read or heard somewhere that it's not a "bourbon" and never was. Perhaps my mind made up the 100% port matured part to justify it.Wes, can you shed any light on this? Anyone else?On a side note, I've had this a few times and it's VERY tasty. Can't wait for its release!!!Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormeh Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I had not heard that AE was coming out at Cask Strength, but I'm glad it is! I very much like AE, but kept thinking a higher proof would suit it.I would imagine, like you, it's simply standard AE but at a higher proof. I can't imagine they would age it 100% in port casks, as they'd have to drop the Bourbon statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny.Applebury Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 When I tasted the Angel's Envy Cask Strength sample at a whisky event last year, I was told that it was the same product as the original bottled at cask strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightNoChaser Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 What's the proof going to be? I'm interested. Even if it likely is BF juice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Glad to hear that this is coming out. Always tasted like Barton whiskey to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbon Boiler Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Looking forward to the release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigarnv Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 What's the proof going to be? I'm interested. Even if it likely is BF juiceIf it is a true CS I would guess it would be in the 125 - 130PF range... if in fact it is a 4-7YO BF.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_Henderson Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Let me try to shed some light for you all on this.Louisville Distilling will be releasing a Cask Strength AE for the holidays this year. It will be "finished" just like our normal product, although it will be released after a MUCH longer finishing time and of course a higher proof.Typically AE is finished the the port wood for around 3-6 months. The cask strength, when actually bottled, will have been in the port wood for around 22 months depending on when we actually get around to putting it in the bottle. So we took our 4/5/6 year old bourbon, then basically finished it for 2 years. Current proofs coming out of the barrels are around 122-123. This was as of the first week of March, when I last pulled a sample. Of course this could change but I don't expect it to be drastic.-Kyle Henderson3rd Generation and Production Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 Let me try to shed some light for you all on this.Louisville Distilling will be releasing a Cask Strength AE for the holidays this year. It will be "finished" just like our normal product, although it will be released after a MUCH longer finishing time and of course a higher proof.Typically AE is finished the the port wood for around 3-6 months. The cask strength, when actually bottled, will have been in the port wood for around 22 months depending on when we actually get around to putting it in the bottle. So we took our 4/5/6 year old bourbon, then basically finished it for 2 years. Current proofs coming out of the barrels are around 122-123. This was as of the first week of March, when I last pulled a sample. Of course this could change but I don't expect it to be drastic.-Kyle Henderson3rd Generation and Production ManagerCan't wait! Thanks for posting. Will the cask strength be available everywhere AE is currently distributed or just in select markets? More to the point, will we see it in Michigan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacinJosh Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 Let me try to shed some light for you all on this.Louisville Distilling will be releasing a Cask Strength AE for the holidays this year. It will be "finished" just like our normal product, although it will be released after a MUCH longer finishing time and of course a higher proof.Typically AE is finished the the port wood for around 3-6 months. The cask strength, when actually bottled, will have been in the port wood for around 22 months depending on when we actually get around to putting it in the bottle. So we took our 4/5/6 year old bourbon, then basically finished it for 2 years. Current proofs coming out of the barrels are around 122-123. This was as of the first week of March, when I last pulled a sample. Of course this could change but I don't expect it to be drastic.-Kyle Henderson3rd Generation and Production ManagerThanks for clearing that up Kyle. Much appreciated!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restaurant man Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Let me try to shed some light for you all on this.Louisville Distilling will be releasing a Cask Strength AE for the holidays this year. It will be "finished" just like our normal product, although it will be released after a MUCH longer finishing time and of course a higher proof.Typically AE is finished the the port wood for around 3-6 months. The cask strength, when actually bottled, will have been in the port wood for around 22 months depending on when we actually get around to putting it in the bottle. So we took our 4/5/6 year old bourbon, then basically finished it for 2 years. Current proofs coming out of the barrels are around 122-123. This was as of the first week of March, when I last pulled a sample. Of course this could change but I don't expect it to be drastic.-Kyle Henderson3rd Generation and Production Manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gburger Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 I met Lincoln a year ago in Austin during a bottle signing. Then two weeks ago Wes, his son came to town and I got a bottle signed by him. We talked awhile about their new cask strength coming out this fall. He told me to shoot him an email and he would send me a sample this fall. Well look what came from FedEx today. I have not tried it yet, it was sitting outside all day and is a bit hot being in Texas. I was surprised to get a sample so soon. Maybe they will have it on the market sooner than later. Thanks Wes! Gregg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gburger Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 · Hidden Hidden 122 proof is the sample I got Link to comment
cowdery Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 I had a taste at WhiskeyFest, so they've obviously got the whiskey selected. No reason to think they won't stick to their release schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOldKyDram Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Very much looking forward to this one.Any guesses as to price? My apologies if I missed that info in the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigarnv Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I hear the price will quite high even when compared to premium bourbon like GTS..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanstaafl2 Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I thought it interesting that in addition to the long reported Angel's Envy cask strength this fall there was mention by John Hansell on his blog of a second pending release from Angel's Envy of a "high-rye" whiskey (Don't know if that means a high rye bourbon or another mystery rye from LDI/MGP/whatever the alphabet soup is today or some other source that will be finished in Caribbean rum casks. Has there been previous talk of this? Couldn't find it on an intial search. I know some don't care much for "finished" whiskey but it sounded interesting to me. I like the current Angel's Envy well enough to want to give it a try if I get the chance. As it happens "very interesting" was the phrase used on the website to describe them both. Not sure if that is a good hing or a bad thing. Or perhaps an intentional attempt to be non-specific? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gburger Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 At the KBF, Wes told me that only 600 bottles of Cask Strength will be available. So it will be hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Good Day All-Any more news on this? Finally had my first taste of the regular release and enjoyed it but would really enjoy it much more at a higher proof.Best regards, Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacinJosh Posted November 15, 2012 Author Share Posted November 15, 2012 Good Day All-Any more news on this? Finally had my first taste of the regular release and enjoyed it but would really enjoy it much more at a higher proof.Best regards, TonyHaven't ward anything yet......still waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vosgar Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 http://whiskeyreviewer.com/Go to the Nov. 14th post. I sure hope he's wrong about the price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanstaafl2 Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 http://whiskeyreviewer.com/Go to the Nov. 14th post. I sure hope he's wrong about the price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyjd75 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 $150 in Louisville. I think perhaps a little too expensive for me, especially as I am not a big AE fan anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOldKyDram Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 That is an absolute joke of a price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conecuhridge Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Friends, As noted in this thread, we have just released the Cask Strength version of Angel's Envy. By way of details, the release proofed at 123.7, is completely unfiltered, and we are only releasing 600 bottles worldwide. Each bottle is individually numbered, and presented in a hand crafted wood box. The package also contains an invitation to a private event in January hosted by my family, featuring Lincoln, of course. This event will not only be a celebration of food and drink, it will also be an exclusive opportunity to sample works in progress, and help guide taste profiles for future releases. While I don't set retail pricing, I am seeing a list price of $149.00. As for my friend MyOldKYDram----please email me your contact information (whenderson@louisvilledistilling.com). I will let the bourbon speak for itself, and send you a sample for evaluation. If it is NOT the most complex and smooth cask strength bourbon you have ever tried, I will purchase a bottle at retail and send it to you----all on me. Your word is final, and I will not argue your observations. Fair enough? I have uploaded a photo, which in preview, appears to be sideways....my apologies if this is the case. Cheers, Wes Henderson Louisville Distilling Company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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