Current PVW Prices 2012/2013

[smknjoe]

A very respectable attitude and I'm glad you were rewarded.

[squire]

I believe this climate of increased Bourbon awareness results in a greater selection available to us. I may or may not buy Cask Strength Craig but I'm glad such things are now being made available.

[Bourserker]

I was tempted to go on a rant here as to how annoying the whole PVW thing is, but I have since gotten over it. As a newb to whiskey in general I got into it when the PVW craze was almost in full swing (late 2011). So it took me a long time to finally aquire 2 ORVW 107s, 4 VWSR Lot Bs, 1 PVW 15 and 1 VWFRR. I'm still chasing a PVW 20, but ain't holding my breath. At any rate, it really just ticked me off that I kept reading and hearing about this stuff and couldn't get any. Then I finally started getting one here and there with the PVW 15 and VWFRR being the 2 I most sought after, and you know what...now that I have them I just don't care anymore. There's plenty of other really good stuff out there that I don't need to be wasting my time chasing these guys. Anyway, mini-rant over.

So back on topic, I over paid for the ORVW 107s ($55 a piece I think) in the summer of 2012, got the Lot Bs at about the going price I think (between $50 and $55), got the PVW 15 for $68 (from a certain KY online retailer who I adore) and the VWFRR was a gift.

[squire]

The whole PVW thing is, well, irresistible to those of us interested in Bourbon at this level. It's also something to graduate from. Years ago I was leaving Van Winkle on the shelves when they were priced at $19.95 because, while interesting, I have always preferred rye recipe Bourbons.

[ebo]

The whole PVW thing is, well, irresistible to those of us interested in Bourbon at this level. It's also something to graduate from. Years ago I was leaving Van Winkle on the shelves when they were priced at $19.95 because, while interesting, I have always preferred rye recipe Bourbons.

[Tico]

People talk about they hype starting years ago. While true it never really hit the lower level offerings in my area until this recent release. Spring 2012 and fall 2011, Lot B and ORVW were readily available year round sitting on the shelf. The Fall 2012 release was the first time I saw these two never make it to the shelf.

[smknjoe]

The whole PVW thing is, well, irresistible to those of us interested in Bourbon at this level. It's also something to graduate from. Years ago I was leaving Van Winkle on the shelves when they were priced at $19.95 because, while interesting, I have always preferred rye recipe Bourbons.

[skidfive]

People talk about they hype starting years ago. While true it never really hit the lower level offerings in my area until this recent release. Spring 2012 and fall 2011, Lot B and ORVW were readily available year round sitting on the shelf. The Fall 2012 release was the first time I saw these two never make it to the shelf.

same here actually, always available 10 and 12 year. Same store had a 23 year that sat for a year, and only at $220 too in comparison to the $400s you see that sit.

[callmeox]

This thread really got off the rails in a stream of consciousness way (as opposed to a flame war).

The excess has been pruned and moved to a new thread in the General Bourbon Discussion forum.

[smknjoe]

Saw a bottle of the 12yr. lot B for $90. The cheapest VW I've seen in the wild in the last couple of years.

[Meruck]

I hope you bought it Joe. But then there are those that think the Weller 12 and lot B are identical twins.

[smknjoe]

Not at that price. If you haven't had a chance to read though this thread, I passed up the 20 and 23 at $299 and ~$500 each. Are you suggesting that I may not be able to find it cheaper? I'm starting to think that's the case here in TX. It seems like price is HIGHLY dependent on location as much as luck. I haven't seen one person from TX mention prices they have paid recently and think there is good reason for that.

And I hope that's not true about the Weller 12 because it's my least favorite bourbon out of the ~20 I've had. Thanks to another SBer I have a sample of the Lot B and 10yr. headed my way. So, I guess I'll find out soon enough.

Edited March 3, 2013 by smknjoe

[Meruck]

Well I'm in Idaho and we just don't get any PVWs here. State stores only so $90 sounds reasonable to me. I have no evidence related to the W12. Just something I read and don't remember where. Bummer you don't like it, I find a good pour

[michaelturtle1]

Payed $49.99 for an ORVW 10/107 tonight. A bit much, but still reasonable enough to not leave it on the shelf.

[SFS]

Payed $49.99 for an ORVW 10/107 tonight. A bit much, but still reasonable enough to not leave it on the shelf.

That was the price here in the fall. The 10/90 was about $30 in Vegas in December.

[Rockefeller]

Husk's Pappy Prices

So I just stumbled upon the updated cocktails page for Husk and let me say that I am personally offended by the prices they are charging for the Pappy line. This comes across as nothing more than a cheap cash grab by Sean Brock. If the Van Winkle's are truly against price gouging (like they say they are), then this should be just as outrageous. For Sean to exploit a personal relationship and supply of PVW, to charge more than 50% MRSP of a bottle per glass is ridiculous. I would hope that ORVW should divert supply to bars/restaurants that don't price-gouge to this degree much like they have recommended distributors do the same with stores.

[SFS]

Wow, that's really something. I've been wanting to eat at Husk since I first read of it, but now I'm not sure I want to contribute to an endeavor that is marking things up that much. The general rule I was taught is that bars want to pay for a bottle in 4 to 5 pours. Not 1 pour!

[Wryguy]

I was supposed to meet up with a group of friends to go to a pre-wedding lunch at Husk on March 22, mostly at my goading, but we were informed they couldn't accommodate a group of 10. Weak showing on their part IMO. I was BEGRUDGINGLY going to overpay for their private selection VW, but now I'll just have to wait until I go to Blue Smoke BBQ in NYC to try their privately selected VW 18 year at 23 a pour.

UPDATE: Blue Smoke is all out of PVW. Sorry for the fake out Rockefeller.

Edited March 7, 2013 by Wryguy

[smknjoe]

These are the most disgusting prices yet! Especially after I saw Sean's little video about how he wanted to be adopted by Julian because he loved the whiskey so much. As the story goes: Later, Julian was so impressed with Sean's food he stood up and announced to everyone that Sean was to be called Sean Van Winkle from then on. And then Brock goes on to say they are close friends now. What a load!

Edit: According to some of those prices I just sent out $100 worth of samples for free. I want my money! (Just kidding. You know it!)

Edited March 7, 2013 by smknjoe

[squire]

Their short term loss is your long time gain.

[matthewdc]

And I thought $65 for a pour of PVW23 at Bourbon Steak, here in DC, was high! That is truly unbelievable and disappointing. It's unfortunate that some restaurants/bars/liquor stores engage in this price gouging to do a quick cash grab, as you said. Is it really worth possibly alienating customers and even future customers--for what a few extra hundred dollars that won't dramatically impact your bottom line?

But I guess at the end of the day, we're under no obligation to pay those stupid prices. But I agree with you, it's just offensive.

[squire]

What I find offensive is they believe I will accept their practices.

[smknjoe]

You're right Matt, we don't have to overpay. What about the uninformed consumer who goes to the restaurant and it's suggested to them?

Edit: ^^What squire said, too.

Edited March 7, 2013 by smknjoe

[Tico]

You're right Matt, we don't have to overpay. What about the uninformed consumer who goes to the restaurant and it's suggested to them?

Bingo!

Less to retail and more to restaurants that will charge prices like this. Keeps people wanting more......

[matthewdc]

You're right Matt, we don't have to overpay. What about the uninformed consumer who goes to the restaurant and it's suggested to them?

You're right too. That would be a big problem. But I believe the age-old adage "BUYER BEWARE" aptly applies here.