gooneygoogoo Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Malts???? I'm confused and not sure what to think. http://www.whiskyadvocateblog.com/2013/09/11/woodford-malts/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOldKyDram Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Meh, perhaps?And doesn't Balcones call theirs a single malt? Why would that be a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Yeah, that's a curious quote. As long as you're not calling it "Single Malt Scotch Whisky" who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theglobalguy Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 (edited) "Morris has become accustomed to defending the Master’s Collection."See, you shouldn't have to...explain perhaps, but if you're defending...maybe you have a problem. Edited September 11, 2013 by theglobalguy Font color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Well I'm glad they did it but wish they had bottled the two expressions separately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOldKyDram Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Wonder if these will meet the same fate as the rye set and languish until hitting the discount bin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suntour Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Wonder if these will meet the same fate as the rye set and languish until hitting the discount bin.The beer world has taken to calling special releases that don't catch fire "shelf turds" and I suspect this may be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.B. Babington Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 depends. to some folks, the rye wasn't such a dramatic change from regular woodford. if this has only subtle differences from regular woodford, then probably not a big seller either. I'll certainly try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 I really wish these were bottled in 375 ml bottles at half the price. $90 for 750 ml keeps me from buying them pretty much ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejmharris Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 One word.... Yawn!!!!!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 That was three words and I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clavius Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 One word.... Yawn!!!!!My sentiments exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.B. Babington Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I really wish these were bottled in 375 ml bottles at half the price.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zillah Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 It doesn't seem like a gimmick this time but god damn those prices. I hope it turns out tasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanstaafl2 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 ack! I missed that. I assumed they were doing it like the ryes. I've got to get two bottles at $99 each to try both expressions?? I was not that interested to begin with, and that interest is fading fast.I too thought they would be doing a packaged set of two 375ml bottles. I really like to try experiments but if that is not the case then not sure I will buy two $100 bottles of a series that doesn't have the greatest track record to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 In 2010, I wrote an article for WHISKY Magazine in which Chris Morris revealed some of the Masters Collection projects then underway. I tasted the malt whiskeys and they were awful. Three more years of aging may have helped. I have not yet tasted what they released.The malt project was similar to the rye project. They took the spirit off the still at two different proofs, 62.4% ABV and 43.3% ABV. Those were the barrel entry proofs as well. The higher one was aged in new, charred oak barrels and the lower one was aged in used Woodford Barrels. I have also tasted experimental malt whiskeys made by Heaven Hill and Buffalo Trace. They were bad too. I'm sure all of the major American producers have experimented with malt whiskey at some point. No one has come up with anything they're willing to produce. Perhaps this Masters Collection release will show us why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOldKyDram Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Well that sounds encouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 (edited) Experimental releases are not necessarily great whiskey. Their purpose is to teach us something.The new Masters Collection is usually revealed in October, after the bourbon festival, so perhaps they're planning to do something with it at the festival.I've seen dispatches from some of the writers who are there and it looks like they did a whole BF dog and pony show, going to the cooperage and doing an Old Forester tasting too. Edited September 12, 2013 by cowdery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOldKyDram Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Yeah. They've taught me not to spend $100 on experimental whiskey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutton Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Why not go to the effort of distilling a wort as another variable? Not knowing anything about it, that would seem to be a major difference in the Irish/Scotch model from what they attempted. Do any of the other single malt whiskey producers in the U.S. distill the mash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisko Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Yeah. They've taught me not to spend $100 on experimental whiskey.No kidding. But as long as I can get Old Forester for $15 they can charge $300 for the "master's collection" for all I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petrel800 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I know Woodford has it's fans, but I'm just not one of them. Their whole outfit to me is a dog a pony show, from the pretentious distillery where you have to pay to take the tour to the crap they put on the shelves. It's Brown Foreman juice mixed with a little of the Woodford make and sold at a premium price for what's in the bottle. What is telling to me is they never come to the market with a straight up we made it here, age stated product like the other distilleries do. Doesn't even have to be a single barrel product, but it's telling that they can't let their bourbon stand for itself, it's always some stupid experiment or gimmick. Sorry, rant off, hope I haven't offended the Woodford fans, but I'm just not high on what they do from top to bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P&MLiquorsEric Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 This one is screaming flop to me. We will carry it but Im not ordering a ton.There are plenty of fine "single malts" available from all over scotland and ireland with age statements and reputable pedigrees. Now a bourbon style whiskey made and aged in scotland would be something interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanstaafl2 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 (edited) This one is screaming flop to me. We will carry it but Im not ordering a ton.There are plenty of fine "single malts" available from all over scotland and ireland with age statements and reputable pedigrees. Now a bourbon style whiskey made and aged in scotland would be something interesting.Might be as close as it gets. Made by HH but comes from Scotland.Alchemist Heaven HillAlthough I am not sure this was aged in Scotland so maybe not... Edited September 13, 2013 by tanstaafl2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portwood Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 There are plenty of fine "single malts" available from all over scotland and ireland with age statements and reputable pedigrees. Now a bourbon style whiskey made and aged in scotland would be something interesting.If your premise that a single malt produced and aged in the USA is going to be a flop, then a bourbon-style whisky made and aged in Scotland would likewise be a flop - i.e. why try to replicate something that is already being done "to perfection" at a fraction of the cost elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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