Medley Brothers Bourbon

[Josh]

Really? Go suck on some baby wipes.

Factoring in proof, Medley Brothers is still a better value than baby wipes.

[MyOldKyDram]

I would think so, but I've never tried the two blind, SBS.

[Old Dusty]

Baby wipes aren't as good now as they used to be. Once the old Johnson & Johnson plant closed they changed the formula and now they are thin and harsher on the entry. BUT if you can find some packages without a SKU and in the old foil.....heaven.

[LCWoody]

Baby wipes aren't as good now as they used to be. Once the old Johnson & Johnson plant closed they changed the formula and now they are thin and harsher on the entry. BUT if you can find some packages without a SKU and in the old foil.....heaven.

The gold foil are the new humidor set....... I couldn't help it.

[393foureyedfox]

Baby wipes aren't as good now as they used to be. Once the old Johnson & Johnson plant closed they changed the formula and now they are thin and harsher on the entry. BUT if you can find some packages without a SKU and in the old foil.....heaven.

NOW this thread has gotten interesting!

[cowdery]

I think the comparison between High West and Medley is more than a bit of a stretch. The story with High West is that they came out of the gate fudging their story and leading people to believe they made Rendezvous. They got called on it and changed their tone immediately. Good for them. I think everyone now understands what High West does and that's the point. The whole "Potemkin Distillery" thing represented a particular moment in the evolution of the young micro-distiller and micro-producer movement. These days, David Perkins says he cares very much about what he distills and wants to be known for that and I have had no reason to doubt him. What's said is said, and I don't take anything back, but I've got no issues with High West now.

Medley has never been anything other than straightforward about who they are and what they do, the family has a rich history, and Charles himself has a 50 year reputation in the industry. That means something to me, maybe not to everybody.

I used to be very tough on all NDPs. Now I mainly save my ire for people who I feel I can't trust (Templeton, Michter's), and I've indicated my respect for people like the Pogues and Zoellers (Jefferson's) who have managed to maintain high quality standards in the bottle despite the trials and tribulations of being an NDP today. Since so many micro-producers go for the young, undistinguished whiskey in a fancy bottle at an inflated price, I was glad to see Medley doing a high quality popular price whiskey in a nostalgic package. It's a different choice.

My attitudes about some things have changed and so have my relationships with some people. We learn, we grow...at least some of us do.

As for the people who just seem to want to hate on me, or at least prove that I have feet of clay, that's their problem.

Edited October 20, 2013 by cowdery

[MauiSon]

Easy to winnow the grain from the chaff here, but the chaff is pretty amusing, at times.

[MyOldKyDram]

Didn't realize there was an attempt to deceive by HW, initially. Very interesting, seeing as how they're one of the most transparent NDPs out there now.

[cowdery]

In fairness to them, it may even have been more of a failure to give clear directions to the people who were doing publicity for them. They came out with this big burst of initial publicity, all over Utah media, about this new rye whiskey made in Utah, which of course was not. I'll even concede a possible overreaction on my part, after just having gone through the same sort of thing with Templeton, and both of them took the initial approach of coming down hard on me personally, directly and through their sock puppets, which didn't help matters. I'm not trying to open old wounds by going into this now, just trying to give people who weren't there some context. I don't harbor any hard feelings. It's water under the bridge. We've all moved on.

[White Dog]

Hey, what if Sam told him and asked Chuck not to reveal the info to the public? Or maybe he did not tell him who made it. In either case it is none of our business. And it would not be very upstanding of Chuck to reveal the source if he was not asked to, so why jump on him?

[Lazer]

Really? All this says to me is "I have no argument but I really want to disagree with Chuck."

No, that is my argument. How about this one. I've got a new bourbon and coke recipe: water, sugar, and an ounce of Isopropyl.

[WsmataU]

Sooooo.....Has anyone actually sampled the Medley 12 and willing to share their impressions?

[TunnelTiger]

Haven't seen it yet but then again I've been too busy chasing the BTAC, OFBB, and the 4RLE's

[Lazer]

Sooooo.....Has anyone actually sampled the Medley 12 and willing to share their impressions?

nope, that's why there's 7 pages of fighting here. Had anyone other than Chuck actually tasted it, there wouldn't be what to fight about.

[Brisko]

I saw this today at Eric's store in Elizabethtown. Was surprised as this is the first I have heard of it. I have been a fan of Wathens and the 12 yr "Old Medley" releases. IMHO both are quite good. Kind of dismissed this when I saw it but now think maybe I should give it a try.

I love the Old Medley 12yo I have - I'll keep an eye out for this, esp. if there is a family relationship to the 12yo.

I really enjoy the Old Medley 12. Have yet to try the Wathen's and will keep an eye out for this as it appears CT is on the future release list (surprisingly).

I tried the 12 y/o at Cork and Bottle in Covington. I did not like it well enough to buy it. YMMV.

Joe

In this thread alone... this internet thing isn't that hard, guys....

[ChainWhip]

I had the Medley 12 @ a bourbon event in my town and did not stand out to me - my palate was pretty fried by the time I got to it so YMMV.

[jburlowski]

Sooooo.....Has anyone actually sampled the Medley 12 and willing to share their impressions?

Had it a few weeks back. Solid pour. OK but nothing exceptional or even above average. IMO, not worth the price.

[cowdery]

The people who I think will want to know about the 12-year-old and the new Medley Brothers are the people who have enjoyed the single barrel through the years. If that hits your sweet spot, you might like the new ones.

[squire]

As NDPs go I like the Medley family approach, everything is genuine down to the generations old family recipe which they openly discuss. I suspect they don't disclose their contract distiller because there is a good chance their brand will be compared to a comparable brand from that distiller.

I have been a customer of Medley and Walthen whiskys in years past but I won't buy this one at $25 (that's popular price?) per 750 because this is basic whisky. I can get a 1.75 of very good 4-6 year old 100 proof Bourbon for less than $25 all day long.

Edited October 25, 2013 by squire

[Kyjd75]

I had the pleasure of participating in a local charity fundraiser in Elizabethtown last night, as the "bourbon guy/server" for a group of 100+ civic minded citizens, many of whom were bourbon enthusiasts. Bourbons served included 4R SmB LE 2013, PHC 7th, Eric's private 4R barrel selections (OBSF and OESF). . . . AND. . . Medley Bros and AAA 10 yr. Although naturally the high end stuff was consumed first, many wanted to try the Medley Bros and most liked it, including several serious bourbon drinkers. I would up serving almost 3 750s of the Medley Bros. Tried a taste myself and found it a little hot, but actually quite good, considering what it was. The 4R SmB 2013 was the star of the event, however, as it was clearly the favorite (until we ran out). PHC and the OBSF were a tie for second. But the response to the Medley Bros was both interesting and good.

[393foureyedfox]

I won't buy this one at $25 (that's popular price?) per 750 because this is basic whisky. I can get a 1.75 of very good 4-6 year old 100 proof Bourbon for less than $25 all day long.

this is one reason I like squire....he doesnt play the popular game. he knows what he likes and openly admits it. It may not be the best bourbon on the planet, but at $25, you cant go wrong with a 1.75 of HH/VOB/OGD BIB.

[shoshani]

Heaven Hill uses a contract distilling model with their distributors. The 6-year-old whiskey that will be 7-year-old (theoretically) Evan Williams next year isn't owned by Heaven Hill. They sold it to their distributors years ago, when it came off the still. This allows Heaven Hill to free up capital to invest in more production and gives the distributors a favorable price, especially in an expanding market.

[sutton]

We did Old Medley 12 as VBT #475 - I'm far from the most experienced bourbon enthusiast here, but I liked it. I'm not going to get into a QPR discussion here because I'm sure some will say it is $10 or $12 more than an EC12 or equivalent, but it was still very enjoyable and I'd gladly buy more.

[smokinjoe]

We did Old Medley 12 as VBT #475 - I'm far from the most experienced bourbon enthusiast here, but I liked it. I'm not going to get into a QPR discussion here because I'm sure some will say it is $10 or $12 more than an EC12 or equivalent, but it was still very enjoyable and I'd gladly buy more.

[Josh]

Well put. I'll add, QPR is a nice thing to consider, but I find it so annoying when "enthusiasts" continually fall back to it in relation to their "opinion" on a whiskey. QPR is a card that is many times overplayed, IMO.

I don't understand what you mean by this. Unless it's a blind tasting situation, price is always going to shape a taster's expectations.

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