VT Mike Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Medley has never been anything other than straightforward about who they are and what they do, the family has a rich history, and Charles himself has a 50 year reputation in the industry. That means something to me, maybe not to everybody.No disrespect Chuck, but I have to disagree with you on that point. Maybe the Medleys are straight forward about what they do when speaking to you in person, but the label and hang tag on their Wathen's Single Barrel bottles make it sound very much like they are distilling the whiskey themselves. Not to mention the page on their website titled "our distillery" that has pictures of the buildings and of mash actively fermenting in the tanks.http://www.wathens.com/distillery.cfmThat's a bit much when no whiskey has been made there since 1992 and Charles Medley only owned the distillery from 1995 to 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Well put. I'll add, QPR is a nice thing to consider, but I find it so annoying when "enthusiasts" continually fall back to it in relation to their "opinion" on a whiskey. QPR is a card that is many times overplayed, IMO.Its not overplayed if it wins. Secondly, we're talking about a whiskey that nearly nobody has tasted yet, so price has everything to do with it as much as any of the other numbers on the resume.How about this, I won't buy that whiskey because its too young. Happier? :grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinjoe Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Its not overplayed if it wins. Secondly, we're talking about a whiskey that nearly nobody has tasted yet, so price has everything to do with it as much as any of the other numbers on the resume.How about this, I won't buy that whiskey because its too young. Happier? :grin:My post really had nothing to do specifically about the Medley, be it the 12 yr that Sutton referred to, or 4yr. More of a general observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinjoe Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I don't understand what you mean by this. Unless it's a blind tasting situation, price is always going to shape a taster's expectations..Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using TapatalkFrankly, I enjoy discussions about whiskey, regardless of price. I quickly tire when the opinions go to price, relative value, etc, too close to the front end of the discussion. Yes, I'd like to pay $11 dollars for every bottle of bourbon that I buy, but the end for enthusiasts can't be that the trump card when judging a whiskey is how it compares to the lower cost "alternative". Simply, I've grown somewhat bored of the "I'd rather have 4 bottles of such-n-such $11 dollar whiskey, for what I could get 1 of these for..." But as always, YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Comp Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 ... I'll add, QPR is a nice thing to consider, but I find it so annoying when "enthusiasts" continually fall back to it in relation to their "opinion" on a whiskey. QPR is a card that is many times overplayed, IMO.I think you perfectly and precisely phrased it Joe and find it annoying too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r60slash5 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I'm following this disscusion until the QRP reference. Quailty vs Price? Personally the whole acronym thing seems lazy and confusing. (No offense) .Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 That's how I interpret their posts Ted though I don't use acronyms very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Mike Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I'm following this disscusion until the QRP reference. Quailty vs Price? Personally the whole acronym thing seems lazy and confusing. (No offense) .TedNo wonder you can't figure out the acronym, you mixed the letters up :grin:QPR = Quality-Price Ratio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Frankly, I enjoy discussions about whiskey, regardless of price. I quickly tire when the opinions go to price, relative value, etc, too close to the front end of the discussion. Yes, I'd like to pay $11 dollars for every bottle of bourbon that I buy, but the end for enthusiasts can't be that the trump card when judging a whiskey is how it compares to the lower cost "alternative". Simply, I've grown somewhat bored of the "I'd rather have 4 bottles of such-n-such $11 dollar whiskey, for what I could get 1 of these for..." But as always, YMMV.Gotcha. I'm with you. That's way too much math for me.Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I think you perfectly and precisely phrased it Joe and find it annoying too.I find it annoying when people talk about whiskey that doesn't exist yet.I also find it annoying when people talk about what whiskey tastes like. Taste is completely subjective so what is there to talk about?I also find it annoying when some people tell others what they should talk about.:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinjoe Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Gotcha. I'm with you. That's way too much math for me.Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 See, Josh?! And, we only have so many fingers and toes! To this day, I can still only count to 21. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulO Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I'll be picking up a bottle of Medley Brothers when I get the chance. More often than not, I'm in the Squire camp, drinking the BIBs that are a good deal. On the other hand, I like to try new things when I can. There are a number of factors that justify price. These would include: age, proof, and demand based on novelty/scarcity. None of these factors in itself guarantees how good something will taste. I have had OFBB that was older and more scarce than OF Signature. I found that I preferred the Signature. There is also another thread around here that points out not all dusties are good. I guess my point is, if you're curious, taste and see if you like it. I think a good example is Sazerac Rye. I hadn't seen any for a long time. I ran across a single bottle for $33 (normal price around here). I know I like it, so I got it. Now, if I compare maybe 6 year old 90 proof @$33 vs. 4 year old 102 proof @$25, $25 doesn't seem too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted October 28, 2013 Author Share Posted October 28, 2013 The Medley Brothers was just released. I've tasted it and gave my impressions. Presumably it's available to others (I know it's on the shelf in Kentucky) and they may offer comments too. One reason I decided to write about it was because I found the whiskey surprisingly good. The 12-year-old, on the other hand, is good but about what you'd expect from a 12-year-old, i.e., not outstanding. I think the Medley Brothers is outstanding for a 4-year-old, which is why I called it out. So why all the pissing and moaning? I think what I did pretty much describes what we do here. Does anyone have a different idea about how SB.com should be used?As for the Medley web site, nobody is 100% clean. Everybody exaggerates to some extent. I'd rather they didn't. I'd rather Van Winkle was "The Old Rip Van Winkle Company," but I also think it's possible to draw lines and say this person has gone too far. I respect others who want to draw the lines a little differently. I'm actually, believe it or not, beginning to wonder if I've been too hard on Michter's. I always try to keep an open mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I try to keep an open mind as well but mine sometimes shuts the door on it's own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBOmarc Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I find it annoying when people talk about whiskey that doesn't exist yet.I also find it annoying when people talk about what whiskey tastes like. Taste is completely subjective so what is there to talk about?I also find it annoying when some people tell others what they should talk about.:cool:I miss Andy Rooney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WsmataU Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I miss Andy Rooney.I don't miss Andy Rooney wannabees ... :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT Mike Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I also think it's possible to draw lines and say this person has gone too far. I respect others who want to draw the lines a little differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 Frankly, I enjoy discussions about whiskey, regardless of price. I quickly tire when the opinions go to price, relative value, etc, too close to the front end of the discussion. Yes, I'd like to pay $11 dollars for every bottle of bourbon that I buy, but the end for enthusiasts can't be that the trump card when judging a whiskey is how it compares to the lower cost "alternative". Simply, I've grown somewhat bored of the "I'd rather have 4 bottles of such-n-such $11 dollar whiskey, for what I could get 1 of these for..." But as always, YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulO Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I'm reviving an older thread. It so happens that I unexpectedly found some Medley Bros. Bourbon locally today. I have a glass in front of me now, and I like it. It's a little sweet, has a nice texture, and nearly no alcohol burn at all for 102 proof. I may have to revisit it several times to write a more complicated review. Overall, I give it a positive review. I don't think the bottle will last a long time in the cabinet. I would buy it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbanzobean Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I'm reviving an older thread. It so happens that I unexpectedly found some Medley Bros. Bourbon locally today. I have a glass in front of me now, and I like it. It's a little sweet, has a nice texture, and nearly no alcohol burn at all for 102 proof. I may have to revisit it several times to write a more complicated review. Overall, I give it a positive review. I don't think the bottle will last a long time in the cabinet. I would buy it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOakMonster Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 ...nearly no alcohol burn at all for 102 proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flahute Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Enjoyed a pour of the Old Medley 12 tonight. Still undecided if it's worth the price, but it's starting to work for me after the first couple pours were not hitting the right notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutton Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Bump - in MA now, saw it at $23-$24. I'll pick one up and give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry in WashDC Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Thanks for the bump. Because of the newer thread on the sale of the old Medley distillery and the comments there, I visited here. Ended up reading the whole thing. SB is endlessly entertaining - what a group we are. If we were bottled, we'd be a 4-star whisky at a bottom shelf price. Just my opinion of course. Your mileage may differ (YMMD, yeah, I had to look it up). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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