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A 10yr 7mo OBSK from TPS

**also checked a few other bottles..Kahn's OESO 10yr 3mo 62.9%**

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...and it's usually the barrels stacked up high in the warehouses that raise the highest in proof during maturation, correct?

thinking on this, aren't 4R rack houses lower in height than many of the others? Would this be a reason for not many "astro-proofers" out of 4R?

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FR maintains that there is much less temp variation between the highest and lowest points in their warehouses -vs- multi-story rickhouses. I don't recall exact numbers but it is something like 10 degrees at FR vs 30 degrees elsewhere.

It is enough to be significant during maturation.

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57%-63% alcohol seems to be the general range for single barrels with a few outliers. The blends excluded. The 2013 small batch limited for example was deliberately blended with higher proof younger whiskeys to add proof to the 18 year OBSV which had dropped under 100 proof and Jim said he wouldn't release a sub 100 proof limited edition. That one was probably their lowest proof offering in the category. (Too lazy to go look at the bottles).

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I recently picked up an OESV 12 yr. 2 mo. FS 8-5L 63.7% private selection
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Thanks very much for the great responses, guys.

The hamster is running in overdrive trying to scheme a clever selection.

Perhaps a better metaphor could be chosen - I don't want to overexcite the GBS crowd...

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57%-63% alcohol seems to be the general range for single barrels with a few outliers. The blends excluded. The 2013 small batch limited for example was deliberately blended with higher proof younger whiskeys to add proof to the 18 year OBSV which had dropped under 100 proof and Jim said he wouldn't release a sub 100 proof limited edition. That one was probably their lowest proof offering in the category. (Too lazy to go look at the bottles).

2013 SmBLE was 103.2pf. I have a couple of FR BP selections that are a fraction over 126pf. Do we know with certainty that FR barrels at 125? That is the max but certainly can be less if they choose to. Seems likely that is what the bean counters would want but maybe Jim Rutledge pushes it a bit lower?

Last week in rickhouse R it was remarkably cooler than the outside temp of mid 80's. They did tend to frown on my efforts to climb up the ricks to check the temp up top!

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Ohhh....where did you get that one? I recently tried an OESV for the first time and loved it and am now on the lookout.

Got it in a NJ store, but I called today and they're all sold out. I first saw it in 2013 late Fall or early Winter but I passed because, among other things, they had a boatload sitting in boxes. When I went in about three weeks ago (not my usual store, so my visits are fairly infrequent), there were only one or two left on the shelf -- so I grabbed one. I didn't know if there were more in the back but, given my call today, apparently not.

The good news is that it sounds like they are planning on ordering another one in the next couple weeks for this Fall -- although I don't think (from what I heard) that they have any control over age or proof. It sounds like FR's does give a limited choice re: recipe.

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Got it in a NJ store, but I called today and they're all sold out. I first saw it in 2013 late Fall or early Winter but I passed because, among other things, they had a boatload sitting in boxes. When I went in about three weeks ago (not my usual store, so my visits are fairly infrequent), there were only one or two left on the shelf -- so I grabbed one. I didn't know if there were more in the back but, given my call today, apparently not.

The good news is that it sounds like they are planning on ordering another one in the next couple weeks for this Fall -- although I don't think (from what I heard) that they have any control over age or proof. It sounds like FR's does give a limited choice re: recipe.

Thanks so much for letting me know the details! If they get another barrel in, do you know if by chance they ship? The only place I've found that has this recipe is Binny's and they don't ship to Washington State.

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I think its the state you are shipping TO that is the issue. I am in GA and they won't ship here either, not because they don't want to, the state of GA won't allow it as far as I know. Otherwise a case of OESF and OBSF would be headed south, pronto.

Thanks so much for letting me know the details! If they get another barrel in, do you know if by chance they ship? The only place I've found that has this recipe is Binny's and they don't ship to Washington State.
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Picked up some new bottles of Four Roses...also completed the collection by selecting a least a barrel of each recipe.

Bob, fill us in on the 1789b Paws & Claws picks.

How many people were choosing?

Did y'all get multiple samples from each of the 10 recipes?

Etc, etc, details man let's have 'em.

zuhemudu.jpg

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Bob, fill us in on the 1789b Paws & Claws picks.

How many people were choosing?

Did y'all get multiple samples from each of the 10 recipes?

Etc, etc, details man let's have 'em.

zuhemudu.jpg

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The different selection had anywhere between 6 and 32 tasters Oscar. We don't do the prototypical one barrel from each recipe when we taste...We pick all our barrels blind so the best bourbon independent of recipe gets bottled. It took us 6 or 7 visits over 3 years and about 25 barrels bought to finally get all 10 recipes selected.

Fantastic!

Cheers

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  • 2 weeks later...

There is undoubtedly a lot of respect among SBers for what FR has accomplished. But cult? Then I took another look at the Starting from Nothing thread. There are numerous suggestions about what readily available bourbons should be in your cabinet if you had to start from scratch. EC12 made a very respectable showing but far and away the most frequently mentioned bourbon is FRSB. Nothing else even comes close.

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