TomFischer Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 We've been anticipating this one for a while, and as of 10/10, the official name and release date of this expression, here is the review: Angels Envy It is quite unique and delicious, like nothing we've ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouKyLover Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I received an email from them a couple of weeks ago. They implied that their new target date for release was around the first of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Anybody have an idea of where and for how much Angel's Envy will be available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bourbonNOOG Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Mmmmmm... I want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Triple distilled...does that mean they bought some Bourbon and then redistilled it? Do any of the majors triple distill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman1099 Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I believe Woodford Reserve Triple Distills.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinjoe Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 I believe you're right on the Woodford, Scott. I also think you could include Bowman on the Virginia Gentleman, although initial distillation is at BT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMOWK Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Anybody have an idea of where and for how much Angel's Envy will be available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nblair Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Anybody have an idea of where and for how much Angel's Envy will be available?I remember seeing the price somewhere, I am pretty sure it's going to be in the $40-$60 range.On John's blog Wes Henderson mentioned they were trying to get it approved by the PALCB so I think there's a good chance it might hit MI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 You might want to check that "triple distilled" claim as it appears nowhere in the brand's official literature. That may have been a misunderstanding on someone's part.The official literature does say it will retail for about $44.99 and be available in Louisville, Chicago, San Francisco, Miami, Austin, Washington D.C., and Boulder/Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bourbonv Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Brown-Forman is not too happy about Lincoln starting a new distillery - he is no longer "Distiller Emeritas" at Brown-Forman. Do you think they would sell him whiskey for a project they don't approve of? I think not and Brown-Forman can be eliminated as a source of the bourbon.Mike Veach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Sku started a thread on it a while back. Wes Henderson posted a response in it:http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13910 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 Brown-Forman is not too happy about Lincoln starting a new distillery - he is no longer "Distiller Emeritas" at Brown-Forman. Do you think they would sell him whiskey for a project they don't approve of? I think not and Brown-Forman can be eliminated as a source of the bourbon.Mike VeachSince we're talking to the same people at BF I'm surprised you keep saying this because I've been told they wish him nothing but the best and still consider him part of the family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bourbonv Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Lincoln announced at the ADI meeting that he was removed as Distiller Emeritas of Brown-Forman. I assume he was telling the truth. Mike Veach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Assume whatever you want. Here's what Brown-Forman says about it:"BF is not mad at Lincoln or his distillery. They recently called us for some assistance and Lincoln was out at WR a few weeks ago. We have never created the Master Distiller Emeritus position and therefore couldn’t have taken it away." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conecuhridge Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 You might want to check that "triple distilled" claim as it appears nowhere in the brand's official literature. That may have been a misunderstanding on someone's part.The official literature does say it will retail for about $44.99 and be available in Louisville, Chicago, San Francisco, Miami, Austin, Washington D.C., and Boulder/Denver.Chuck,Your observation is correct about the "triple distillation". This is what happens when the PR folks get a hold of something, and it does not come across my desk, or Lincoln's desk. Per my instructions going forward, any communication that includes description of our processes must be cleared by one of us in advance. While plans going forward consist of a production plan that could be labeled as "triple distilled", our current expression is most certainly a product of a column method. While I look at this as more of a misunderstanding, I have gone to great pains to make sure what we are doing is credible, especially amongst the members of this particular community of bourbon lovers. We will always be open about what we are doing, as this is what creates the bond between distiller and consumer.Thanks for pointing this out...Wes Henderson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conecuhridge Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Lincoln announced at the ADI meeting that he was removed as Distiller Emeritas of Brown-Forman. I assume he was telling the truth. Mike VeachI think Lincoln was just having some fun with the group at ADI. The folks at BF have been great. I am sure they don't see us as a threat, and there is plenty of market share to go around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Thanks Wes. It's great to have the son of an independant bottler (for now!) interact in such a positive way with us SBers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomH Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 While I need to taste this again with a MUCH cleaner palette (not after 20 other bourbons and scotches), my initial impression is that this is a fantastic bourbon for those that like whisk(e)y with finishes (which I do). Unlike some other attempts, I found that the other flavors were well integrated.Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfw Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 I too tried this after about a dozen other tastes at Whiskeyfest in NYC this week. It is good, quite good, IMHO.I'm going to have to dig for it in D.C. I guess when it gets released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbk Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 I'm really curious to try this one, but I do have a question for you knowledgeable folks. A few bloggers/posters elsewhere have argued that Angel's Envy doesn't qualify as "Bourbon" because it was finished ("ACEd") in port pipes, and thus its entire aging history was not in new, charred oak barrels. By my reading of the Title 27 Code of Federal Regulations, bourbon does not have to be stored for its entire aging period in new, charred oak barrels, so long as it was stored in them for some period. Am I correct in this assertion, and thus Angel's Envy is indeed still bourbon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 I'm really curious to try this one, but I do have a question for you knowledgeable folks. A few bloggers/posters elsewhere have argued that Angel's Envy doesn't qualify as "Bourbon" because it was finished ("ACEd") in port pipes, and thus its entire aging history was not in new, charred oak barrels. By my reading of the Title 27 Code of Federal Regulations, bourbon does not have to be stored for its entire aging period in new, charred oak barrels, so long as it was stored in them for some period. Am I correct in this assertion, and thus Angel's Envy is indeed still bourbon?It is. Those bloggers/posters are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbk Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 It is. Those bloggers/posters are wrong.Thanks, Josh! It's nice to have your hunches validated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 More specifically, it is officially "bourbon finished in port barrels." The finish has to be disclosed on the label so, in that sense, it isn't just bourbon. That's the part some folks can't seem to wrap their heads around. Once it's bourbon, or straight bourbon, that's what it is and you can't un-bourbon it any more than you can un-ring a bell. If something is done to the bourbon after it has become bourbon, or straight bourbon, that 'something' must be disclosed, but it does not make it not bourbon.Some people can't distinguish between what they think the rules should be in their personal interpretation and what the rules actually are. As the saying goes, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nblair Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 Has their been any word on the official release date yet? At first it was 10/10/10, but that didn't happen and I haven't heard anything firm yet. I am anxious to give this a try, have heard nothing but good things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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