OGD 114 Being Discontinued? (Rumor)

[Guest]

Long chat with the Whiskey guy at my local Binny's -- he said the OGD 114 was coming back with a $1 price bump.  

 

I can only hope he is right about both assertions...

[Whiskey Dick]

good news, but still, another black eye for Beam. Hell, jack up the price a bit more and throw a decent age statement on it while you're at it

[smokinjoe]

56 minutes ago, Whiskey Dick said:

good news, but still, another black eye for Beam. Hell, jack up the price a bit more and throw a decent age statement on it while you're at it

Raising the price by a buck is "another black eye"?  Tough crowd!  

[Nm0369]

What is the MSRP now? I see everything from $21-$35 in Indianapolis....

[emr454]

7 minutes ago, Nm0369 said:

What is the MSRP now? I see everything from $21-$35 in Indianapolis....

$24.99 in Central NY when I can find it.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, smokinjoe said:

Raising the price by a buck is "another black eye"?  Tough crowd!  

Yeah, I was totally okay with this.  I mean, at the places where I've been stocking up, we're still a little under $20!  Butttt.... we'll see about that "one" buck I guess.  No problem to me if it's + two or three.  Just would like to make sure it's not  +10 or +20!

 

Guess my main interest is keeping the flavor profile and the price-point relatively close to where they are now.  I'm hoping that's Beam's goal too.

[stoopsie]

1 hour ago, Nm0369 said:

What is the MSRP now? I see everything from $21-$35 in Indianapolis....

Its $31 at my local Total Wine.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, stoopsie said:

Its $31 at my local Total Wine.

Maybe y'all are already seeing that $1 increase.    The range I see in IL and SE WI is 20 - 27.

 

 

[Clueby]

It was all over the St. Louis area for between $21.99 and $27.99.  After the "announcement" it started creeping up in price and eventually disappeared from shelves.  Last week or so it suddenly started showing back up everywhere for between $25.99 and $32.99.

[Whiskey Dick]

4 hours ago, smokinjoe said:

Raising the price by a buck is "another black eye"?  Tough crowd!  

 

 

No, I meant another black eye in that another decision was quickly reversed.

 

I'm surprised it's only a buck. I figured IF they brought it back it'd be $40.

[smokinjoe]

11 minutes ago, Whiskey Dick said:

 

 

No, I meant another black eye in that another decision was quickly reversed.

 

I'm surprised it's only a buck. I figured IF they brought it back it'd be $40.

 

Do we have corroboration of the statement from other sources other than the guy at the liquor store?  I hope he's right, but we hear all kinds of stuff from liquor store guys.  

 

I hear your point, but I look at decision reversals that reduce proposed price increases and potentially bring back a beloved brand label as good news.

[BottledInBond]

I find it to be a little crazy how wide of a price there is on 114 at this point. I can still buy it for $17.99. If it goes up to $18.99 it's obviously no big deal, but I suspect worse 

[Redslayer]

Grabbed one today at $25...that's about as cheap as I can find it here.

[musekatcher]

Maybe the producers are trying to respond to short term demand with the normal practice of raising prices but nervous and waffling at disgruntled fans.  I was thinking, it takes them years to respond with more supply, so they really are squeezed.  This up and down of prices with rumors is like commodity behavior lol.  

[emr454]

All i know is that I will try to stock up as much as my wallet and wife will allow lol.

[fishnbowljoe]

6 hours ago, smokinjoe said:

Raising the price by a buck is "another black eye"?  Tough crowd!  

 

With all due respect to Rodney Dangerfield and Henny Youngman, "What a tough crowd. No respect I tell ya'. No respect." & "Take my wife, please." I had to throw the Henny Youngman in just for good measure. 

 

Cheers! Joe

[MTNBourbon]

I think I paid $27.99 a couple of weeks back here in GJ.

[Richnimrod]

It goes for about $34 most places around me 'The Mitten State'.    Have not seen it for under $32 in several months.

[Limegoldconvertible68]

9 hours ago, Whiskey Dick said:

good news, but still, another black eye for Beam. Hell, jack up the price a bit more and throw a decent age statement on it while you're at it

I agree with you. At what point can we believe anything Beam says now?  I question how this many decisions can possibly be reversed. From my point of view the company has a bunch of idiots working for it who don't understand how business works or they think they can yank our chain anytime they need to boost sales. If either of those are true it's very troubling.  Maybe there's another explanation but I sure don't see it. 

[smokinjoe]

4 minutes ago, Limegoldconvertible68 said:

I agree with you. At what point can we believe anything Beam says now?  I question how this many decisions can possibly be reversed. From my point of view the company has a bunch of idiots working for it who don't understand how business works or they think they can yank our chain anytime they need to boost sales. If either of those are true it's very troubling.  Maybe there's another explanation but I sure don't see it. 

Is there a definitive statement from Beam that OGD 114 is not being eliminated?  

[Thig]

Just for the record I love some of Jim Beam's bourbons. Way too much Jim Beam bashing at times.

[Limegoldconvertible68]

Just now, smokinjoe said:

Is there a definitive statement from Beam that OGD 114 is not being eliminated?  

Not that I've seen but there is anecdotal evidence. Many of my stores told me last year that they couldn't get more and that what was in the distribution chain was all the was left. Now every store is fully stock with it.  I realize this is just my small corner of the world and I'm jumping to conclusions but coming so soon after the Bookers fiasco I am quite suspicious seeing so much of it all of a sudden. 

[smokinjoe]

2 minutes ago, Limegoldconvertible68 said:

Not that I've seen but there is anecdotal evidence. Many of my stores told me last year that they couldn't get more and that what was in the distribution chain was all the was left. Now every store is fully stock with it.  I realize this is just my small corner of the world and I'm jumping to conclusions but coming so soon after the Bookers fiasco I am quite suspicious seeing so much of it all of a sudden. 

I'm sorry, but that explanation may be the worst backtracking I've seen in a while.     

[Harry in WashDC]

24 minutes ago, smokinjoe said:

Is there a definitive statement from Beam that OGD 114 is not being eliminated?  

Joe, I just spent about 20 minutes browsing for such a reference.  I found nothing definitive, by which I mean nothing with an official Beam person saying or writing the OGD 114 is being discontinued.  The closest I came is a comment Chuck Cowdery added to his Oct 23,2016, blog article on the discontinuance of OGD in the 1.75L size.  On Oct. 24, he added, " The brand's high proof expression, Old Grand-Dad 114, probably will be discontinued next year, Beam sources say."
 

I thought that Fred Minnick had posted something similar and independent, but I couldn't find it.  BUT, people like me, who like it, sure have bought a lot "just in case".  A one dollar change?  I can handle it.  A five dollar change?  My bunker will bring down the average cost.  A ten dollar change?  My bunker is a couple years deep.

Edited January 12, 2017 by Harry in WashDC

[Hop]

I'm a fan of OGD but didn't really stock up. Just have 3 on the shelf waiting until this all shakes out


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