amg Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 19 hours ago, Madhatter said: Howdy, amg, Your comment reminded me of a blast from the past. https://whiskeylately.com/bourbon/elijah-craig-12-blend/ He goes at the EC12 vs. water choices a bit systematically. Salud. M-H Yep, pretty similar to my results. I think I proofed down to 107 myself and let them rest a couple days in sample bottles. I think they're just putting higher quality barrels into the barrel proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 42 minutes ago, amg said: I think they're just putting higher quality barrels into the barrel proof. Another illustration, I believe, that good batching can get good results without going the single barrel route. I never understood why HH uses single barrels for McKenna 100. If they batched the McKenna, the results would be just as good, while eliminating the risk from barrel variation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroo5880i Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I am traveling for work and staying in Fort Wayne, Indiana. I usually make it up here a 3 or 4 times a year and visit a couple of different stores. I usually have luck finding something that I can't find at Indy in these stores. This time was no different as I saw a single bottle of ECBP A117 on the shelf at one of the stores. Since it usually doesn't hit the shelves in Indy, I bought it even thought it was $68.99. I then headed to the opposite side of town to another store in the same chain. It also had a bottle on the shelf but I passed. I then visited the second store and they had 3 bottles on the shelf for $61.99. It curbed my excitement on my initial find a little since I could have bought it cheaper. However, I didn't know and there is nothing I can do about it now. I ended up seeing 5 bottles of ECBP A117 on the shelf at three different stores. I haven't seen ECBP on the shelf ever in Indy. The lady at the first store was very nice and was surprised when I told her we don't find it often in Indy. She said she thought we got everything being a bigger market. I told her that was the problem, more people seeking higher end bottles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlutz Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 Has anyone tried the B517 124 proof batch yet and care to share impressions? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbstout Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 On June 2, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Charlutz said: Has anyone tried the B517 124 proof batch yet and care to share impressions? Thanks! I just picked up a bottle tonight. Hopefully will be able to open tomorrow night. I'm a little scared the proof has gone down the last two batches. Although that doesn't mean much as compared to what's in the bottle. Good news is EHTBP has gone from 127 to 128 and I was luck enough to come across a stash tonight as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amg Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 On 6/4/2017 at 0:29 AM, Bbstout said: I just picked up a bottle tonight. Hopefully will be able to open tomorrow night. I'm a little scared the proof has gone down the last two batches. Although that doesn't mean much as compared to what's in the bottle. Good news is EHTBP has gone from 127 to 128 and I was luck enough to come across a stash tonight as well. The proof goes up and down from batch-to-batch and doesn't correlate to my enjoyment of them. 62% is still plenty of punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flahute Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 On 6/3/2017 at 9:29 PM, Bbstout said: I just picked up a bottle tonight. Hopefully will be able to open tomorrow night. I'm a little scared the proof has gone down the last two batches. Although that doesn't mean much as compared to what's in the bottle. Good news is EHTBP has gone from 127 to 128 and I was luck enough to come across a stash tonight as well. Why is it good news that EHTBP has gone up one proof point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlutz Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 14 hours ago, flahute said: Why is it good news that EHTBP has gone up one proof point? Because 128>127. That's math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWBadley Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, Charlutz said: Because 128>127. That's math. Haha That's funny! It would be cool to do a blind SBS and see if anybody can pick the higher proof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcbt Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 7 minutes ago, RWBadley said: Haha That's funny! It would be cool to do a blind SBS and see if anybody can pick the higher proof If everyone had to pick one, I'd guess half would get it right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbstout Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 14 hours ago, flahute said: Why is it good news that EHTBP has gone up one proof point? I just picked up a bottle tonight. Hopefully will be able to open tomorrow night. I'm a little scared the proof has gone down the last two batches. Although that doesn't mean much as compared to what's in the bottle. Good news is EHTBP has gone from 127 to 128 and I was luck enough to come across a stash tonight as well. Maybe because I perceive higher proof=Better Value. A beer analogy would be 2 Guinness Stouts=1 Craft Beer Stout. 5% ABV compared to 10% ABV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffrey r Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, Bbstout said: Maybe because I perceive higher proof=Better Value. A beer analogy would be 2 Guinness Stouts=1 Craft Beer Stout. 5% ABV compared to 10% ABV. Well, my 129 (batch 3) beats your 128... How about them apples... Sorry, couldn't resist--just kidding around. Seriously though, just enjoy the EHTBP. It is a favorite of mine, and I have several stashed away of different batches. They're all really good, and EHTBP is a nice counterpoint to ECBP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWBadley Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 59 minutes ago, dcbt said: If everyone had to pick one, I'd guess half would get it right... Many variables. Maybe nobody would get it right- but for all the right reasons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcbt Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, RWBadley said: Many variables. Maybe nobody would get it right- but for all the right reasons! Actually it's simple math. If there are two choices, everyone would have a 50/50 chance to pick the right one. (So, yes, I'm saying nobody could tell a difference in proof, but by sheer luck odds say half of everyone would pick the right one - over the long run, anyway.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flahute Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Charlutz said: Because 128>127. That's math. And yet......it matters not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flahute Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Bbstout said: I just picked up a bottle tonight. Hopefully will be able to open tomorrow night. I'm a little scared the proof has gone down the last two batches. Although that doesn't mean much as compared to what's in the bottle. Good news is EHTBP has gone from 127 to 128 and I was luck enough to come across a stash tonight as well. Maybe because I perceive higher proof=Better Value. A beer analogy would be 2 Guinness Stouts=1 Craft Beer Stout. 5% ABV compared to 10% ABV. I hear you, but that's nowhere near the same as a 1/127th gain in proof. Indistinguishable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnbowljoe Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Just now, flahute said: And yet......it matters not. Now that's funny. I was kinda thinking the same thing about the Stagg Jr batches. (aside from batch #1.) Some differences in proof, but all good. Cheers! Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kpiz Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Since these are all CS batches, isn't it possible that a significant difference in proof indicates a change in either the age or the warehouse location (high rack vs low rack) where they're pulling barrels from? This could certainly change the overall profile (not necessarily for the better or for the worse). I guess my point is that while I don't think high proof is superior in flavor to lower proof, it could mean it will have a different flavor. The again, batch 7 had the lowest proof of the first dozen batches and I don't recall it being significantly different than the others... Wow, I really came full circle with that one. Also, I don't think this has been mentioned yet, but Fred Minnick really liked batch A117 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeTen Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 On 6/6/2017 at 5:13 PM, flahute said: I hear you, but that's nowhere near the same as a 1/127th gain in proof. Indistinguishable. Hey Steve, Is that like the "Law of Large Numbers" that doesn't significantly increase your winning a Powerball Lottery until you buy more tickets than any one dealer can sell????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroo5880i Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Sometimes higher proof wins, sometimes it doesn't. If the whiskey lacks complexity and flavor, higher proof helps bail it out. Otherwise, I prefer whiskey in the 100-105 proof range, maybe 110, with complexity and a nice finish. Just like when I was dating in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanstaafl2 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 On 6/8/2017 at 9:22 PM, mbroo5880i said: Sometimes higher proof wins, sometimes it doesn't. If the whiskey lacks complexity and flavor, higher proof helps bail it out. Otherwise, I prefer whiskey in the 100-105 proof range, maybe 110, with complexity and a nice finish. Just like when I was dating in college. You were dating 100-110 year olds??? That must have limited the options... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnbowljoe Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 2 hours ago, tanstaafl2 said: You were dating 100-110 year olds??? That must have limited the options... Now that's funny. FWIW, I joined the army right after I graduated from high school. Man, back then, the younger stuff .........ooops never mind. Don't want to get myself in trouble. Cheers! Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroo5880i Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 4 hours ago, tanstaafl2 said: You were dating 100-110 year olds??? That must have limited the options... Awesome! Truthfully, most dates back then were NAS. We didn't ask and they didn't tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbrink Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Found a place that had A117 on the shelf (first I have seen in NJ) and reluctantly paid $75 for it, they had 10 bottles but based on the feedback I figured I would just buy 1 for now, still have 3 or 4 at home of various other batches so didn't see any real reason to bunker up. If anyone local wants to know the store just PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmossle Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 When you find the newest release B517, get what you can while sharing because it is wonderful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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