Fun with TTB COLA's Online

[Richnimrod]

10 hours ago, Spade said:

I hope the price on that that Baker's is semi-reasonable.

It's good to have 'hopes', however, it's less 'good' when those hopes turn out to so vastly different from the eventual reality.

[kevinbrink]

Lots of good info on this bourbon label, except who made it...

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19137001000191  

And for good measure a Rye as well....

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19137001000198  

 

 

 

[KyleCBreese]

2 hours ago, Richnimrod said:

It's good to have 'hopes', however, it's less 'good' when those hopes turn out to so vastly different from the eventual reality.

I’m interested to see the pricing because you can get 14 year old KC barrels at 120 proof for $45. Why would I pay more for a 13 year, 107 proof?

[mbroo5880i]

4 hours ago, kevinbrink said:

Lots of good info on this bourbon label, except who made it...

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19137001000191  

And for good measure a Rye as well....

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19137001000198  

 

 

 

It interesting that the applicant's name is Aviator Distilling but they use the name Aerodrome Distilling on the bottle.

 

I wonder if the bourbon is really 14 years 4 month old?

Edited June 11, 2019 by mbroo5880i

[Harry in WashDC]

3 hours ago, mbroo5880i said:

It interesting that the applicant's name is Aviator Distilling but they use the name Aerodrome Distilling on the bottle.

 

I wonder if the bourbon is really 14 years 4 month old?

I wonder, too.  I think the regs require the "real" label to state the real age but allow the application to include a hypothetical placeholder.  That mash bill of 84% corn caught my eye.  MGP doesn't offer a bourbon with that corn %, and I can't recall if any of the majors do, either.  Hhhhhmmmm.

[FacePlant]

33 minutes ago, Harry in WashDC said:

I wonder, too.  I think the regs require the "real" label to state the real age but allow the application to include a hypothetical placeholder.  That mash bill of 84% corn caught my eye.  MGP doesn't offer a bourbon with that corn %, and I can't recall if any of the majors do, either.  Hhhhhmmmm.

 

I think we're looking at George Dickel here. They are finding and selling a lot of 12-14yr old barrels lately, mostly under new labels and WAY over priced.

[kevinbrink]

8 hours ago, KyleCBreese said:

I’m interested to see the pricing because you can get 14 year old KC barrels at 120 proof for $45. Why would I pay more for a 13 year, 107 proof?

There is some conversation over the similarities and differences between the different Beam products over in this thread, to me the profile of Baker's, and Booker's for that matter, isn't super similar to KC. 

 

[kevinbrink]

On 5/18/2019 at 8:57 AM, kevinbrink said:

A New York Outfit bottling a 101 proof Bourbon called Brooklyn Gobbler

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19119001000111

Just saw a post from Eddie Russell on social media that this was in fact something he and Jimmy helped to create back in 2012, color me particularly intrigued

[kevinbrink]

I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that Old Taylor currently still has a superfluous 6 on the label, a revision has been filed regardless. 

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19148001000057

 

 

Edited June 12, 2019 by kevinbrink

[kevinbrink]

Jim Beam Selected Batch 108 Proof Single Barrel

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19149001000146

 

Harlem Standard 4 year old 111 proof Four Grain Bourbon sourced from Indiana

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19147001000331

 

Wyoming Stargazer 100 proof Straight Bourbon

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19144001000890

 

Smoke Wagon Straight Bourbon "Aged and Bottled" in Las Vegas

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19144001000567

 

Barrell Bourbon Batch 20

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19136001000615

 

Odysea Blend of Straight Bourbons "Crafted on Florida's Space Coast" Distilled in TN and KY....

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19125001000153

 

 

[PaulO]

On 6/12/2019 at 10:52 AM, kevinbrink said:

I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that Old Taylor currently still has a superfluous 6 on the label, a revision has been filed regardless. 

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19148001000057

 

 

I noticed the new label gives Louisville as the address.  That seems new to me.  After ND, the brand went to Beam (Clermont) then to BT (Frankfort) now Loisville? 

[Jazz June]

43 minutes ago, PaulO said:

I noticed the new label gives Louisville as the address.  That seems new to me.  After ND, the brand went to Beam (Clermont) then to BT (Frankfort) now Loisville? 

This is quite confusing. Sazerac didn't sell the brand and Buffalo Trace (Sazerac) is the listed applicant. Sazerac's Kentucky distilleries are in Frankfort (BT) and Bardstown (Barton). The application lists DSP-KY-113 (BT), DSP-KY-24 (Glenmore in Ownesboro, owned by Sazerac but not in use for distillation as far as I know), and DSP-KY-12 (Barton). So it seems as though Sazerac is having someone else make Old Taylor. New Bernheim (Heaven Hill) is in Louisville and Heaven Hill does (did?) contract distillation. Considering Buffalo Trace can probably put everything it makes into one of its currently produced brands at a higher price, maybe it makes sense to have Old Taylor contract distilled.

[kevinbrink]

Boone County Single Barrel 6 year Wheated Bourbon (MGP)

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19141001001050

And a NAS Straight Bourbon (MGP)

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19141001001091

 

Stein 9 year Oregon Straight Rye Whiskey (the current distiller of Black Maple Hill)

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19144001000930

 

A new label for Old Hickory "Stamp Collection" white label Straight Bourbon

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19149001001023

 

Milam and Greene Straight Rye Finished in Port Casks (MGP)

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19114001001172

 

Bower Hill Straight Bourbon finished in Sherry Casks

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19149001001056

[Harry in WashDC]

On 6/15/2019 at 9:51 AM, kevinbrink said:

Jim Beam Selected Batch 108 Proof Single Barrel

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19149001000146

 

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Trying to figure out JB's business plan, let alone keep track of all those small batch/select/throwback/perfume bottle releases, is a lot of work.  Unless this is a placeholder, this look to me to sit just under their repurposed Baker's.

 

Keep these ttb things coming as I use them to encourage me to ruminate on bourbon instead of playing iPad games for hours on end.

[kevinbrink]

Widow Jane 14 Year old Blend of Straight Bourbons (TN/IN)

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19150001001310

Widow Jane 12 Year Old Barrel Proof (MGP)

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19150001001293

 

Rabbit Hole Heigold Hye Rye Straight Bourbon (3 Years)

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19155001000899

Rabbit Hole Cavehill 4 grain Straight Bourbon (3 Years)

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19155001000895

Rabbit Hole Boxergrail Straight Rye (3 Years)

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19155001000893

Rabbit Hole Dareringer PX Finished Bourbon

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19155001000890

[Richnimrod]

Hmmmm. Rabbit Hole gets a big buy-in, then clears 4-brands/labels with TTB... Coincidence?

[kevinbrink]

Good News it's back and 1 better, Heaven Hill 7 Year Bottled in Bond

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19156001000250

 

 

[JoeTerp]

47 minutes ago, kevinbrink said:

Good News it's back and 1 better, Heaven Hill 7 Year Bottled in Bond

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19156001000250

 

 

Bad news guess: gift shop only - $50

[Jazz June]

7 hours ago, kevinbrink said:

Good News it's back and 1 better, Heaven Hill 7 Year Bottled in Bond

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19156001000250

 

 

I didn't think the discontinuation of the Heaven Hill 6 BiB was such a big deal, but after reading the back label in this filing, it seems inevitable that Heaven Hill would bring back a BiB under its namesake brand. Hopefully it's a good bourbon at a good price (that people outside of Kentucky can buy).

[kevinbrink]

What appear to be barrel proof Ezra Brooks Store Picks

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19126001000945

 

A Bottled In Bond Bourbon from Maine, aged in 30 gallon barrels

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19151001000463

 

Nothing says "Limited Edition" like 80 proof TN bourbon.

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19161001000418

 

Nothing like throwing a bunch of big old 8's on a 3 year old bourbon

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19134001001117

[flahute]

1 hour ago, kevinbrink said:

What appear to be barrel proof Ezra Brooks Store Picks

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19126001000945

 

A Bottled In Bond Bourbon from Maine, aged in 30 gallon barrels

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19151001000463

 

Nothing says "Limited Edition" like 80 proof TN bourbon.

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19161001000418

 

Nothing like throwing a bunch of big old 8's on a 3 year old bourbon

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19134001001117

Whoa there!!!!

That’s my local named on the Ezra store pick and he knows nothing about it lol.

[kevinbrink]

So while there have been a number of outlets reporting KC is getting it's age statement back, this 12 year old is news to me:

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicDisplaySearchBasic&ttbid=19155001000696

 

Not my favorite label I've ever seen for a 10 year old seemingly Barrel Proof bourbon, and not just because of the lack of statement on where it was distilled.

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19154001001023

 

A 4 year old Straight malt aged in 25 Gallon Barrels from Litchfield

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19134001000074

[Marekv8]

57 minutes ago, kevinbrink said:

So while there have been a number of outlets reporting KC is getting it's age statement back, this 12 year old is news to me:

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicDisplaySearchBasic&ttbid=19155001000696

 

Not my favorite label I've ever seen for a 10 year old seemingly Barrel Proof bourbon, and not just because of the lack of statement on where it was distilled.

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19154001001023

 

A 4 year old Straight malt aged in 25 Gallon Barrels from Litchfield

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=19134001000074

 

The Litchfield distillery is super-close to my son's school in CT-- so they serve it without fail at the parent cocktail socials. I've learned to come prepared with my own flask/s.

[kevinbrink]

1 minute ago, Marekv8 said:

 

The Litchfield distillery is super-close to my son's school in CT-- so they serve it without fail at the parent cocktail socials. I've learned to come prepared with my own flask/s.

Some of the guys in one of the local groups are really going nuts for some of their bottles (I think mostly sourced stuff) but I have to add it to my list of places to check out at this point. 

[Marekv8]

19 minutes ago, kevinbrink said:

Some of the guys in one of the local groups are really going nuts for some of their bottles (I think mostly sourced stuff) but I have to add it to my list of places to check out at this point. 

 

PLEASE NOTE that my flasks are to bring in alternative liquid, as to avoid the possibility of drinking the Litchfield product. I'm pretty sure the glass I dumped in the bathroom sink was their own distillate.