fishnbowljoe Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Ask and ye shall receive. The banter between a couple of members here may have been in jest, but what the hey? Ā Pours that really missed the mark, and didnāt even come close to making the grade. In other wordsā¦ā¦ Iāll start things off. As I recently mentioned, a 3 yr old wheated bourbon from Rush Creek Distillery in Harvard Illinois wasnāt anywhere near up to snuff. After a few tries, down the spiral abyss it went. Ā Biba! JoeĀ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomLamb Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Ooooh oooh pick me! Ā I was at a bar in Melbourne FL a few years back and the ātop shelfā bourbon they had was High West āinsert gimmick western name hereā bourbon. Ā The one sip I took tasted like gasoline, immediately asked the bartender to dump it.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marekv8 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flahute Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 Dave wasting no time making a big splash! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry in WashDC Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 And here I sit, thinking I was the only person who could not stand 1776 Rye or Basil Hayden TOAST.Ā And it has been a few years, but I once was working my way down a shot list (a long shot list, not a short one) and balked at a Black Maple Hill.Ā To me, it was undrinkable and dangerous.Ā Bartender poured himself one, tasted, picked up my glass and his and poured them both down his sink.Ā He comped me two different 4R recipes to try, saying, "Now THESE are bourbon."Ā Lately?Ā A basic Rebel Yell almost got dumped this Spring; my wife used some of it to make a pork tenderloin marinade with soy sauce and a couple other ingredients.Ā Bottle is now in HER condiment cabinet and does not count against my stash. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clueby Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 The Dickel/Leopold Collaboration was almost that. Glad I didn't buy a bottle. Others raved about it.Ā 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWBadley Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 I try to Repurpose not dump.Ā Ā Having said that, I have dumped some pretty nasty old flat bourbons when they come along.Ā Harry has it right. Whiskey marinade for bbq. Deelish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroo5880i Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 6 hours ago, Marekv8 said: Ā I recall your "purge" from prior posts.Ā This photo saddens me.Ā "Whiskey, whiskey down the drain. It tasted like piss but still a sad refrain.Ā Whiskey, whiskey, down the drain."Ā Hey, maybe this should go in the favorite poem or lyric post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0895 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Clueby said: The Dickel/Leopold Collaboration was almost that. Glad I didn't buy a bottle. Others raved about it.Ā It actually grew on me a lot as time went on, to the point where the wife and I enjoyed finishing the rest of the bottle Frank left behind.Ā Ā Also, donāt you still have that HH gold label kicking around collecting dust? Ā That might be a candidate. Ā Edited July 5, 2022 by 0895 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry in WashDC Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, RWBadley said: I try to Repurpose not dump.Ā Ā Having said that, I have dumped some pretty nasty old flat bourbons when they come along.Ā Harry has it right. Whiskey marinade for bbq. Deelish Getting to be an old faht over here.Ā PLUS, I been hitting a 750 of SB Blend that's been on the shelf for about seven months (i.e., exceptionally well blended) while watching "A Capitol Fourth" on PBS.Ā Mentioning flat bourbon to me is like saying, "Niagara Falls!" to the Three Stooges - - OLD BARDSTOWN ESTATE 101 does it for me.Ā Whenever I see a bottle, I cramp up and get "dry mouth".Ā Some of my circa 2015-2016 posts on SB document the travails - I blended it, added vanilla extract to it, put vodka in it, mixed it with a half dozen fruit juices, put sugar in it, even added molasses, put it in BBQ sauces, spread it on saltines.Ā NOTHING made this stuff consumable except extreme malnutrition or a drunken stupor looking for something close at hand.Ā Had I known what intellectual pain I would suffer in the future, I'd have dumped this crap when I opened the bottle and tasted it. Ā RANT IS OVER.Ā "Stars and Stripes" coming up. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnbowljoe Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Harry in WashDC said: Ā RANT IS OVER.Ā "Stars and Stripes" coming up. I wish I had a dollar for every time I played Sousaās iconic, patriotic march. Ā Biba! Joe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroo5880i Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Harry in WashDC said: Getting to be an old faht over here.Ā PLUS, I been hitting a 750 of SB Blend that's been on the shelf for about seven months (i.e., exceptionally well blended) while watching "A Capitol Fourth" on PBS.Ā Mentioning flat bourbon to me is like saying, "Niagara Falls!" to the Three Stooges - - OLD BARDSTOWN ESTATE 101 does it for me.Ā Whenever I see a bottle, I cramp up and get "dry mouth".Ā Some of my circa 2015-2016 posts on SB document the travails - I blended it, added vanilla extract to it, put vodka in it, mixed it with a half dozen fruit juices, put sugar in it, even added molasses, put it in BBQ sauces, spread it on saltines.Ā NOTHING made this stuff consumable except extreme malnutrition or a drunken stupor looking for something close at hand.Ā Had I known what intellectual pain I would suffer in the future, I'd have dumped this crap when I opened the bottle and tasted it. Ā RANT IS OVER.Ā "Stars and Stripes" coming up. Ā I found Old Bardstown, Noah Mill, Johnny Drum to be subpar during that period.Ā Frankly, I have not tasted any of those offerings since.Ā The Kulsveens made stellar barrel picks up until that time and for the WFE line.Ā However, as the brands of concern were batched, I assume they included the less than stellar bottles.Ā I haven't seen the Willet line in Indy for several years.Ā At some point when it hits Indy, I will give it a try.Ā I doubt I will go back to OBE, NM or JD...unless folks on here start talking about how great it is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroo5880i Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 18 minutes ago, 0895 said: It actually grew on me a lot as time went on, to the point where the wife and I enjoyed finishing the rest of the bottle Frank left behind.Ā Ā Also, donāt you still have that HH gold label kicking around collecting dust? Ā That might be a candidate. Ā Ā Of course, free whiskey will grow on you, especially if Frank left it behind.Ā Ā 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry in WashDC Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Just now, mbroo5880i said: Ā I found Old Bardstown, Noah Mill, Johnny Drum to be subpar during that period.Ā Frankly, I have not tasted any of those offerings since.Ā The Kulsveens made stellar barrel picks up until that time and for the WFE line.Ā However, as the brands of concern were batched, I assume they included the less than stellar bottles.Ā I haven't seen the Willet line in Indy for several years.Ā At some point when it hits Indy, I will give it a try.Ā I doubt I will go back to OBE, NM or JD...unless folks on here start talking about how great it is. Hhhmpf.Ā THANKS!Ā I had not thought about 2015-2016 as a transition period.Ā HECK!Ā That's when some of us thought Wild Turkey 101 KSBW had gone sour and WT 101 Rye disappeared..Ā Perhaps the whole industry was retooling on the fly then, and as any of us who have worked in a bureaucracy of more than 500 people can attest, nine months of adjustment is INCREDIBLY FAST(!!).Ā Now that six/seven years have gone by, maybe that's why I'm back down on the bottom shelf sniffingĀ . . . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomLamb Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Marekv8 said: Funny, the restoration rye single barrel I got is either wonderful or rancid depending on the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clueby Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 54 minutes ago, 0895 said: Also, donāt you still have that HH gold label kicking around collecting dust? Ā That might be a candidate. Ā I do have that around somewhere. I'll bring it just for you next time we get together! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulO Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 18 hours ago, Marekv8 said: Is that JEP 1776 the 95% rye from Indiana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fosmith Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, PaulO said: Is that JEP 1776 the 95% rye from Indiana. If it is, it hurts my heart to see it in that picture.Ā I've had several bottles and they've been quite good.Ā But it is a very small batch product so there could be some that are sub par...Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulO Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 12 hours ago, Harry in WashDC said: Getting to be an old faht over here.Ā PLUS, I been hitting a 750 of SB Blend that's been on the shelf for about seven months (i.e., exceptionally well blended) while watching "A Capitol Fourth" on PBS.Ā Mentioning flat bourbon to me is like saying, "Niagara Falls!" to the Three Stooges - - OLD BARDSTOWN ESTATE 101 does it for me.Ā Whenever I see a bottle, I cramp up and get "dry mouth".Ā Some of my circa 2015-2016 posts on SB document the travails - I blended it, added vanilla extract to it, put vodka in it, mixed it with a half dozen fruit juices, put sugar in it, even added molasses, put it in BBQ sauces, spread it on saltines.Ā NOTHING made this stuff consumable except extreme malnutrition or a drunken stupor looking for something close at hand.Ā Had I known what intellectual pain I would suffer in the future, I'd have dumped this crap when I opened the bottle and tasted it. Ā RANT IS OVER.Ā "Stars and Stripes" coming up. Harry, I must concur.Ā I purchased a bottle of that Old Bardstown Estate 101 in Louisville around that same time.Ā It was horrible, worst whiskey I ever tried.Ā I described it like Evan Williams that went terribly wrong.Ā It tasted like citrus fruit that had gone bad.Ā One small sip, and this stale orange peel bitterness coated the palate like paint, and would not go away.Ā And they sold this abomination at the time mid shelf price.Ā I would have returned it if local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marekv8 Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 2 hours ago, PaulO said: Is that JEP 1776 the 95% rye from Indiana. Ā Apparentlyā¦ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geclbxf Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Marekv8 said: Ā Apparentlyā¦ I've had good luck my my Pepper bottle - back to the quality of the batch blending I suppose.Ā Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flahute Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 My first drain pour bottle was the original batch of Michter's Toasted. I had avoided their products generally due to price and their shenanigans related to their history but someone told me how great it was so I caved in a moment of weakness and regretted it immediately. Super strong flavor of fake red hot cinnamon that I tried and tried to like over multiple tastes over about a month or so. It was definitely not a bad palate day situation. Felt good to finally get rid of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Loblaw Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 20 hours ago, Clueby said: I do have that around somewhere. I'll bring it just for you next time we get together! Careful @0895Ā is always primed for a Benchmark retaliation! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marekv8 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Queued up for the next roundā¦ Ā 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anwalt Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 32 minutes ago, Marekv8 said: Queued up for the next roundā¦ Ā I'll be curious as to your impressions on Peerless & Revival.Ā I really like Peerless.Ā A little spendy on the rye, but good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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