OscarV Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 The 2009 Mariage contained 19yr & 10yr OBSK along with 10yr OESO...Yep, you are correct Sir, that is what I have posted on my chart and the "tweaked" chart of Josh.Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAINWRIGHT Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Aren't the O and the S left over from Seagrams? At the time Seagrams owned FR they were producing various types of whiskey at various distilleries.Yep. That. As I understand it the O was for Old Prentice, one of the names of what's now Four Roses.I had always wondered about this and now I know,always something for me to learn round here.:grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Comp Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 They need to drop the O and the S. I'd also recommend using other terms for the B and E mashbill designation so they just have the letters on the label for the yeast type. I've seen too many people not purchase because of the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hectic1 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 They need to drop the O and the S. I'd also recommend using other terms for the B and E mashbill designation so they just have the letters on the label for the yeast type. I've seen too many people not purchase because of the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOldKyDram Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Ha, agreed. By all means keep it confusing! Maybe they can even ADD a few letters, even a digit or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) Yep. That. As I understand it the O was for Old Prentice, one of the names of what's now Four Roses.Yes, what you said and what High said (code is vestigal Seagram's), confirmed for me recently by Al Young at Four Roses. Edited April 3, 2013 by cowdery 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 They need to drop the O and the S. I'd also recommend using other terms for the B and E mashbill designation so they just have the letters on the label for the yeast type. I've seen too many people not purchase because of the confusion.Oh, you young kids, always wanting to change everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hectic1 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Yes, what you said and what High said (code is vestigal Seagram's), confirmed for me recently by Al Young at Four Roses.Also, I can announce that the 2013 Limited Edition Single Barrel is OBSK at 13 years old. That information on the 2013 LE has been out for weeks but thanks anyway for reannouncing it...lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Comp Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 (edited) Oh, you young kids, always wanting to change everything.Not young enough to be wondering the exact same as you about the new MGP mash bills..."And, of course, I should live so long to taste one of these new recipes fully mature" :grin:. Edited April 3, 2013 by T Comp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburlowski Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Oh, you young kids, always wanting to change everything. As in: "O... like... B... like... S... like... V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscarV Posted May 1, 2013 Author Share Posted May 1, 2013 sku came up with the bourbons that are going to be in the 2013 Small Batch Limited Edition, (I haven't even gotten a bottle of the 2013 Single Barrel LE yet:bigeyes:).His post here,.... http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?19927-Fall-New-ReleasesI have updated the chart.Letter AbbreviationsO-...............The 1st letter=Produced at the Four Roses Distillery in Lawrenceburg, KY.B/E-.............The 2nd letter=The Mashbill.S-...............The 3rd letter=Straight Whiskey DistillationV/K/O/Q/F-...The 4th letter=The Yeast StrainMashbillsB=60% corn, 35% rye, 5% malted barleyE=75% corn, 20% rye, 5% malted barleyYeast CultureV=Delicate Fruity FlavorK=Slight Spice CharacterO=Robust FruitinessQ=Floral EssenceF=Light Herbal EssenceThe Ten Recipes And Where They Have Been UsedOBSV-Single Barrel & 2008 Mariage & 2010 1B 100th Ann & 2010 SmB LE & 2012 SmB LE** & 2013 SmB LEOBSK-Small Batch & 2008 1B LE 120th Ann & 2009 Mariage* & 2010 SmB LE & 2011 SmB LE & 2012 SmB LE & 2013 1B LE & 2013 SmB LEOBSO-Small BatchOBSQ-2011 1B LEOBSF-OESV-2011 SmB LEOESK-Small Batch & 2008 Mariage & 2010 SmB LE & 2011 SmB LE & 2012 1B LE & 2012 SmB LE & 2013 SmB LEOESO-Small Batch & 2007 1B LE Rutledge 40th Ann & 2009 MariageOESQ-2009 1B LE & 2011 SmB LEOESF-*=19yo and 10yo OBSK was used in the 2009 Mariage, so there was a vatting of 3 bourbons in that bottle.**=17yo and 11yo OBSV was used in the 2012 SmB LE, so there was a vatting of 4 bourbons in that bottle.Four Roses Bourbon or as commonly referred to as "Yellow Label" uses all 10 recipes plus 4 at different ages for a total of 14 bourbons in that bottle. Below is the same info as above but with bottle releases as the header.Single Barrel-OBSV2007 1B LE-OESO2008 1B LE-OBSK2009 1B LE-OESQ2010 1B LE-OBSV2011 1B LE-OBSQ2012 1B LE-OESK2013 1B LE-OBSKSmall Batch-OBSK,OBSO, OESK, OESO2008 Mariage-OBSV 13yo 5months, OESK 10yo 10months2009 Mariage-OBSK 19yo & 10yo, OESO 10years2010 SmB LE-OBSV 15yo, OBSK 11yo, OESK 10yo2011 SmB LE-OBSK 13yo, OESK 11yo, OESV 12yo, OESQ13yo2012 SmB LE-OBSV 17yo & 11yo, OBSK 12yo, OESK 12yo2013 SmB LE-OBSV 18yo, OBSK 13yo, OESK 13yo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Dusty Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Oscar, great list thanks for keeping this up and thanks to the Admin for the sticky. Would anyone care to rank the Mariage/SmB LE by year? I have the 09 and love it. But nothing to compare it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauiSon Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 I have a question regarding LE bottle quantities. I understand that bottles are marked with numbers indicating total number of bottles in the edition. I wonder if anyone else feels it would be useful to list that information in this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 All information is useful, what I want to know is where I can get some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjboatwright Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Absolutely love the updated list Oscar! Nice to see it in one place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauiSon Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) Well, here's what I've found so far (could use some help):Bottles 1442 ---- 2007 1B LE - 40th Anniversary JR at FR~3000----2008 1B LE - 120th Brand Anniversary~1800----2009 1B LE~2300----2010 1B LE - 100th Distilling Anniversary 3900 ---- 2011 1B LE - 'JR didn't choose every barrel' 5178 ---- 2012 1B LE 6559 ---- 2013 1B LE 2492 ---- 2008 Mariage 3432 ---- 2009 Mariage 3732 ---- 2010 SmB LE~3900----2011 SmB LE 4062 ---- 2012 SmB LE~8000----2013 SmB LE - 125th Brand Anniversary Edited August 31, 2013 by MauiSon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ors0 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Secretariat - 3504 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smknjoe Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Well, here's what I've found so far (could use some help):Bottles 1442 ---- 2007 1B LE - 40th Anniversary JR at FR~3000----2008 1B LE - 120th Brand Anniversary~1800----2009 1B LE~2300----2010 1B LE - 100th Distilling Anniversary 3900 ---- 2011 1B LE - 'JR didn't choose every barrel' 5178 ---- 2012 1B LE 6559 ---- 2013 1B LE - 125th Brand Anniversary (125th Single Barrel) 2492 ---- 2008 Mariage 3432 ---- 2009 Mariage 3732 ---- 2010 SmB LE~3900----2011 SmB LE 4062 ---- 2012 SmB LE12468----2013 SmB LE - 125th Brand Anniversary (125th Small Batch)Both the 1B and SmB LEs for 2013 say they are "celebrating our 125th anniversary." The total you had for the SmB 13 LE was for US distribution, but the rest of the list shows total bottles produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanstaafl2 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Both the 1B and SmB LEs for 2013 say they are "celebrating our 125th anniversary." The total you had for the SmB 13 LE was for US distribution, but the rest of the list shows total bottles produced.I don't recall the 2013 Single Barrel LE mentioning that, at least on the front, altohugh I don't have one on hand to examine. Might say so on the blurb on the side. But it doesn't have the swanky seal/banner on the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiskeyagonzo Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanstaafl2 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Well, there you go. Wonder why they didn't include the colorful little seal that is on the SmB? Perhaps another question for Mr. Rutledge this evening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smknjoe Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Well, there you go. Wonder why they didn't include the colorful little seal that is on the SmB? Perhaps another question for Mr. Rutledge this evening!Ask him about it. I'm curious too. The 1B does mention celebrating 125 years twice as you can see on the bottle. On the Four Roses webpage for the 1B LE it mentions it there as well and even goes on to say on the SmB LE page that the SmB LE "is a continuation of the 125th celebration." I think the 125th embellishment on the SmB LE was sort of an afterthought and not meant to be the official name of that bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Keeping the "official" 125th release on the Small Batch gives a welcome respite from "FRSmBLE13". Heaven forbid they do some kind of sherry finish and variable proofs. I can see it now... FRSmBLE15PX107Edit: For the record, that would make a pretty amazing password. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanstaafl2 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Ask him about it. I'm curious too. The 1B does mention celebrating 125 years twice as you can see on the bottle. On the Four Roses webpage for the 1B LE it mentions it there as well and even goes on to say on the SmB LE page that the SmB LE "is a continuation of the 125th celebration." I think the 125th embellishment on the SmB LE was sort of an afterthought and not meant to be the official name of that bottle.Dang, I knew there was something I forgot! Oh well, hope to see him back in town perhaps in February. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPPSmoker Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I got the November newsletter from Four Roses today. I will copy and paste this part that I think you guys will find interesting. This Holiday Season we will have something special in our Visitor Center and Gift Shop. A few weeks ago I selected a barrel of each of our 10 Bourbon recipes. The barrels will be bottled on November 22nd and available for purchase in our gift shops by the end of the month. As with the Limited Edition series, the Bourbon will be bottled at barrel strength and will not be chill filtered. I hope many of you can visit us and pick up one of your favorite recipes, or one in which you may not have previously been able to find. I will sign as many of the bottles as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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