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The 18 I had recently at a tasting was phenomenal, and a favorite of most of the people there. If the 17 is even better, I need to track some down!

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We recently compared two different 18yr single barrel picks. For me, one was excellent with a delightful balance of caramel and char while the second was OK but not inspiring (particularly at it's price point) with an intrusive woody character that over powered the sweetness and provided a much dryer taste. One of the tasters is primarily a Scotch drinker and he much preferred the dryer one as he usually finds Bourbon too sweet.

Each to his own and YMMV.

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Beat me to it - I would also be interested in the Batch numbers. I have tried Batch 27 and Batch 28. I liked them both very much. Of the two, I think I prefer Batch 28- kind of woody (not a detriment for me) with black licorice. I plan to do a blind tasting soon with a few bourbon friends of mine.

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Beat me to it - I would also be interested in the Batch numbers. I have tried Batch 27 and Batch 28. I liked them both very much. Of the two, I think I prefer Batch 28- kind of woody (not a detriment for me) with black licorice. I plan to do a blind tasting soon with a few bourbon friends of mine.
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I enjoy a bit of wood on occasion. I also really liked JRPS 17 and the first K&L 18 bottling last year. However, my recently purchased JRPS 18 batch 30 is remarkably different. It has very little of the sweet caramel profile of JRPS 17. It is flat, uninspiring, earthy, musty and generally just tastes tired. I can't chalk it up to just one more year in wood. I would say they botteled the best barrels last year. I'm going to leave this one open for a while and maybe force myself to revisit it, but I really don't expect much.
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The JRPS 18 is getting better as it gets some air. It has lost it's funky, musty profile and added a bit more caramel and wood. A definite improvement. Still not as good as the 17 or the K&L 18, but definitely drinkable now.

Joe

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The JRPS 18 is getting better as it gets some air. It has lost it's funky, musty profile and added a bit more caramel and wood. A definite improvement. Still not as good as the 17 or the K&L 18, but definitely drinkable now.

Joe

The 2 Jeff. 18 bottles I had got SOOO much better after a couple months of air.

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  • 4 weeks later...

I had a previous bottle of JPS18 the barrel # was somwhere in the teens IIRC. This while it was pretty darn good bourbon seemed a little oaky, overaged and a little too mellow / muted.

I recently purchased another bottle this time Barrel # 9 and I have to say this is much better than my recollection of the previous barrel. While the oak is still prevalent it is much more subdued than my previous bottle. This has a much more rounded profile and a much livelier cinnamon-esque punch wheaters have. Overall, it has a much stronger and balanced profile.

I must say that I really like this barrel. So much so that I went back and bought 2 more for the bunker.

Gotta grab that SW juice while it last. While this may not be the creme-de-la-creme of SW production it is very, very good and I am glad that I was able to get something from them at this stage of the game.

Bottomline, when this is good it can be very good but, caveat emptor as some bottles may not be past their prime and the profile can be very muted.

Hope this helps some on the fence with this great bourbon.

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Has anyone had Batch #12? I am trying to decide whether to get that or another WLW2011.

Nope, I've only had batch 27. But you can't go wrong with 2011 WLW.

Josh

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I guess the word got out on this one. I have been monitoring JRPS @ TPS for the last month. 2 weeks ago there were over 40 left in stock of their private selection bottle. Last weekend, there were 34. Yesterday and early this morning there were 20. I just checked and someone wiped out the remainder sometime between then &now. They also had about 20-30 of the standard JRPS 18 release the last time I checked midweek. Those are now down to 3.

So, I guess I waited too long on another one...:cry: For some reason I thought there was a limit on individual purchasing like there was on the Bowman limited releases they had. Maybe there should have been. Oh well, as I have often learned the hard way...once again - snooze & lose!

All is not lost though. I know where there is an ample supply of the 17 from Batch 7 and a couple of 18s but batch unknown. They will cost more and probably won't be as good as what Jay picked though.

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I finished the 2010 WLW and 2010 PHC on the same day (has there ever been a sadder day?) and need something awesome to cheer me up. Locally, I can get a standard JPS17 or the 2011 Stagg, basically at the same price.

In my opinion the PHC 2010 better represented the old SW stuff than any of the JPS offerings, but since the JPS happens to BE the old SW, even if it wasn't treated so well and not aged perfectly, etc., it's the most appealing to the collector in me. On the other side of the coin, the Stagg is reliably good and unique in its own right. If you have enough for one bottle, what would you get?

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I finished the 2010 WLW and 2010 PHC on the same day (has there ever been a sadder day?) and need something awesome to cheer me up. Locally, I can get a standard JPS17 or the 2011 Stagg, basically at the same price.

In my opinion the PHC 2010 better represented the old SW stuff than any of the JPS offerings, but since the JPS happens to BE the old SW, even if it wasn't treated so well and not aged perfectly, etc., it's the most appealing to the collector in me. On the other side of the coin, the Stagg is reliably good and unique in its own right. If you have enough for one bottle, what would you get?

Easy for me, stagg is 142 proof and delicious. Jeff 18 is 90 proof. I'm going with a bottle and a half of stagg over a btl of Jeff any day.

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I bought the JPS18 for now, knowing that the Stagg will be there for next month's purchase.

I was really surprised at how good this is - I was worried that it'd be sooty and weak, but it was full of peaches and apricots, with a nice rounded old wood component. My scotch-loving friend really enjoyed it, as well, which was unexpected because he doesn't like bourbon at all. I'm looking forward to how this will change in the bottle. A very pleasant surprise.

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Seems to be quite a bit of the 17 and the 18 still on the shelves. I just picked up a few bottles of the original 17YO batch #1 for under $65 this past weekend.

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Seems to be quite a bit of the 17 and the 18 still on the shelves. I just picked up a few bottles of the original 17YO batch #1 for under $65 this past weekend.

That's an excellent price point for this whiskey IMO. Much better than the $80-$100 I typically see it for. The 17 and 18 are both good but I do not think they are $100 good.

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Guys... appreciate all the PM's but the ones I left behind are now gone.

LOL, guess that means I should stop typing my PM now to ask you if there were anymore.

Great, great finds Reid. Both juice and price.

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Seems to be quite a bit of the 17 and the 18 still on the shelves. I just picked up a few bottles of the original 17YO batch #1 for under $65 this past weekend.
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