Whiskey Tree

[Vosgar]

7 hours ago, Richnimrod said:

However, my feeble skills 

Ok....who wants to take this one?   

[flahute]

14 minutes ago, Vosgar said:

Ok....who wants to take this one?   

If I had any photoshop skills I'd do it. Alas.

[Guss West]

I've been making notes on a printed copy.  Marking just my favorites to the relevant branches of the relevant trees.  It has been an enlightening exercise to see where the juice I love best and have bunkered falls across the tree line. 

 

The only product I've tried worthy of written addition so far has been the Jacks Daniels SBBP.

[Jazz June]

As a Josh with small children (but not the original Josh with small children) it seems like I might be able to help out...

 

This is my attempt to list only the regular (at least annual) in production straight bourbons from the major distilleries. I listed private selections where they are what I consider a different expression from one of the standard bottlings. I listed export only expressions if I think they are still in production. Lots of "cats and dogs" are missing (especially from Heaven Hill) so please let me know if they are still widely available somewhere, such that they are worth adding. Perhaps some of the Luxco products should be added to the Heaven Hill list as well?

 

I have taken information from various places around the web, so I will not be insulted at all if you think something is wrong - please share. Also, any additions, corrections, whatever can make this better are welcome. One particular area where I think additional information is needed are the Barton (VOB and 1792) mash bills. Also, my minutes of research (hey I said I had small children) did not yield a clear answer on whether Old Forester Single Barrel selections carry age statements - well, one of you must know?

 

Product	Distillery	Brand Owner	Age	Proof	Mash Bill	Entry Proof
Benchmark	Buffalo Trace	Sazerac	3	80	BT #1	125
Old Charter 8	Buffalo Trace	Sazerac	NAS	80	BT #1	125
Buffalo Trace	Buffalo Trace	Sazerac	NAS	90	BT #1	125
Eagle Rare 10	Buffalo Trace	Sazerac	10	90	BT #1	125
Eagle Rare 17	Buffalo Trace	Sazerac	17	101	BT #1	125
Old Taylor	Buffalo Trace	Sazerac	6	80	BT #1 (?)	125
CEHT SmB	Buffalo Trace	Sazerac	NAS	100	BT #1	125
CEHT SiB	Buffalo Trace	Sazerac	NAS	100	BT #1	125
CEHT BP	Buffalo Trace	Sazerac	NAS	BP	BT #1	125
Stagg Jr	Buffalo Trace	Sazerac	NAS	BP	BT #1	125
GTS	Buffalo Trace	Sazerac	15	BP	BT #1	125
Weller SR	Buffalo Trace	Sazerac	NAS	90	70%C/16%W/14%B	114
OWA	Buffalo Trace	Sazerac	NAS	107	70%C/16%W/14%B	114
Weller CYPB	Buffalo Trace	Sazerac	8	95	70%C/16%W/14%B	114
Weller 12	Buffalo Trace	Sazerac	12	90	70%C/16%W/14%B	114
WLW	Buffalo Trace	Sazerac	12	BP	70%C/16%W/14%B	114
ORVW 10	Buffalo Trace	Van Winkle Whiskey	10	107	70%C/16%W/14%B	114
VW SR 12	Buffalo Trace	Van Winkle Whiskey	12	90.4	70%C/16%W/14%B	114
PVW 15	Buffalo Trace	Van Winkle Whiskey	15	107	70%C/16%W/14%B	114
PVW 20	Buffalo Trace	Van Winkle Whiskey	20	90.4	70%C/16%W/14%B	114
PVW 23	Buffalo Trace	Van Winkle Whiskey	23	95.6	70%C/16%W/14%B	114
Ancient Age	Buffalo Trace	Age International	3	80	BT #2	125
Ancient Ancient Age 10 Star	Buffalo Trace	Age International	3	90	BT #2	125
Blantons	Buffalo Trace	Age International	NAS	93	BT #2	125
Blantons SR	Buffalo Trace	Age International	NAS	80	BT #2	125
Blantons Gold	Buffalo Trace	Age International	NAS	103	BT #2	125
Blantons SFTB	Buffalo Trace	Age International	NAS	BP	BT #2	125
ETL	Buffalo Trace	Age International	NAS	90	BT #2	125
RHF	Buffalo Trace	Age International	NAS	100	BT #2	125
HPR	Buffalo Trace	Age International	NAS	88.9	BT #2	125
VOB 80	Barton	Sazerac	NAS	80	75%C/15%R/10%B	125
VOB 86	Barton	Sazerac	NAS	86	75%C/15%R/10%B	125
VOB 90	Barton	Sazerac	NAS	90	75%C/15%R/10%B	125
VOB BiB	Barton	Sazerac	NAS	100	75%C/15%R/10%B	125
1792 SmB	Barton	Sazerac	NAS	93.7	75%C/15%R/10%B	125
1792 SiB	Barton	Sazerac	NAS	98.6	75%C/15%R/10%B	125
1792 HR	Barton	Sazerac	NAS	94.3	75%C/15%R/10%B	125
1792 SW	Barton	Sazerac	NAS	91.2	75%C/15%R/10%B	125
1792 FP	Barton	Sazerac	NAS	125	75%C/15%R/10%B	125
1792 BiB	Barton	Sazerac	NAS	100	75%C/15%R/10%B	125
Four Roses YL	Four Roses	Kirin	NAS	80	Blend of 10 recipes	120
Four Roses SmB	Four Roses	Kirin	NAS	90	Blend of OBSK, OBSO, OESK, OESO	120
Four Roses SiB	Four Roses	Kirin	NAS	100	OBSV	120
Four Roses PS	Four Roses	Kirin	Varies	BP	1 of 10 recipes	120
Four Roses Black Label	Four Roses	Kirin	NAS	86	50% OBSK and 50% OESK	120
Four Roses Super Premium	Four Roses	Kirin	NAS	86	Blend of OBSV, OBSK, OESV, OESK	120
WT 81	Wild Turkey	Campari	NAS	81	75%C/13%R/12%B	115
WT 101	Wild Turkey	Campari	NAS	101	75%C/13%R/12%B	115
WT KS	Wild Turkey	Campari	NAS	101	75%C/13%R/12%B	115
WT RB	Wild Turkey	Campari	NAS	BP	75%C/13%R/12%B	115
RR 10	Wild Turkey	Campari	10	90	75%C/13%R/12%B	115
RR SiB	Wild Turkey	Campari	NAS	110	75%C/13%R/12%B	115
WT 13	Wild Turkey	Campari	13	91	75%C/13%R/12%B	115
WT Longbranch	Wild Turkey	Campari	NAS	86	75%C/13%R/12%B	115
Woodford Reserve	Woodford	Brown-Forman	NAS	90.4	72%C/18%R/10%B	125
Woodford Reserve Double Oaked	Woodford	Brown-Forman	NAS	90.4	72%C/18%R/10%B	125
Old Forester	B.F. Shively	Brown-Forman	NAS	86	72%C/18%R/10%B	125
Old Forester Signature	B.F. Shively	Brown-Forman	NAS	100	72%C/18%R/10%B	125
Old Forester 1870	B.F. Shively	Brown-Forman	NAS	90	72%C/18%R/10%B	125
Old Forester 1897	B.F. Shively	Brown-Forman	NAS	100	72%C/18%R/10%B	125
Old Forester 1910	B.F. Shively	Brown-Forman	NAS	93	72%C/18%R/10%B	125
Old Forester 1920	B.F. Shively	Brown-Forman	NAS	115	72%C/18%R/10%B	125
Old Forester Birthday	B.F. Shively	Brown-Forman	12	Varies	72%C/18%R/10%B	125
Old Forester PS	B.F. Shively	Brown-Forman	?	90	72%C/18%R/10%B	125
Early Times BiB	B.F. Shively	Brown-Forman	NAS	100	79%C/11%R/10%B	125
Cooper's Craft	B.F. Shively	Brown-Forman	NAS	82.2	72%C/18%R/10%B	125
Maker's Mark	Maker's Mark	Suntory	NAS	90	70%C/16%W/14%B	110
Maker's 46	Maker's Mark	Suntory	NAS	94	70%C/16%W/14%B	110
Maker's Mark Cask Strength	Maker's Mark	Suntory	NAS	BP	70%C/16%W/14%B	110
Maker's Mark PS	Maker's Mark	Suntory	NAS	BP	70%C/16%W/14%B	110
Jim Beam White	Jim Beam	Suntory	NAS	80	77%C/13%R/10%B	125
Jime Beam Black	Jim Beam	Suntory	NAS	86	77%C/13%R/10%B	125
Jim Beam SiB	Jim Beam	Suntory	NAS	95	77%C/13%R/10%B	125
Jim Beam BiB	Jim Beam	Suntory	NAS	100	77%C/13%R/10%B	125
Jim Beam Distiller's Cut	Jim Beam	Suntory	NAS	100	77%C/13%R/10%B	125
Jim Beam Devil's Cut	Jim Beam	Suntory	NAS	90	77%C/13%R/10%B	125
Jim Beam Double Oak	Jim Beam	Suntory	NAS	86	77%C/13%R/10%B	125
Bookers	Jim Beam	Suntory	Varies	BP	77%C/13%R/10%B	125
Bakers	Jim Beam	Suntory	7	107	77%C/13%R/10%B	125
Knob Creek SmB	Jim Beam	Suntory	NAS	100	77%C/13%R/10%B	125
Knob Creek SiB	Jim Beam	Suntory	9	120	77%C/13%R/10%B	125
Old Crow	Jim Beam	Suntory	NAS	80	77%C/13%R/10%B	125
Basil Hayden	Jim Beam	Suntory	NAS	80	63%C/27%R/10%B	125
Basil Hayden 10	Jim Beam	Suntory	10	80	63%C/27%R/10%B	125
OGD	Jim Beam	Suntory	NAS	80	63%C/27%R/10%B	125
OGD BiB	Jim Beam	Suntory	NAS	100	63%C/27%R/10%B	125
OGD 114	Jim Beam	Suntory	NAS	114	63%C/27%R/10%B	125
Heaven Hill White Label	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	3	80	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
Heaven Hill Green Label	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	6	90	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
Elijah Craig SmB	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	NAS	94	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
Elijah Craig BP	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	12	BP	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
Elijah Craig 18 SiB	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	18	90	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
Elijah Craig 23 SiB	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	23	90	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
Evan Williams Green Label	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	NAS	80	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
Evan Williams Black Label	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	NAS	86	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
Evan Williams White BiB	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	NAS	100	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
Evan Williams 1783	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	NAS	86	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
Evan Williams SiB	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	Varies	86.6	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
Evan Williams 12 Red Label	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	12	101	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
Evan Williams 23 Blue Label	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	23	107	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
Henry McKenna	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	NAS	80	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
Henry McKenna 10 SiB BiB	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	10	100	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
JTS Brown BiB	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	NAS	100	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
JTS Brown 80	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	NAS	80	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
JW Dant BiB	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	NAS	100	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
TW Samuels BiB	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	NAS	100	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
Fighting Cock	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	NAS	103	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
Virgin	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	7	101	75%C/13%R/12%B	125
Larceny	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	NAS	92	75%C/20%W/5%B	125
Old Fitzgerald Prime	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	NAS	80	75%C/20%W/5%B	125
Old Fitzgerald BiB LE	Heaven Hill	Heaven Hill	Varies	100	75%C/20%W/5%B	125

 

 

[CUfan99]

Good job Josh. Should BiBs that aren’t otherwise age stated be listed as 4 yrs old rather than NAS? Just a thought. 

[Richnimrod]

8 hours ago, Jazz June said:

As a Josh with small children (but not the original Josh with small children) it seems like I might be able to help out...

 

This is my attempt to list only the regular (at least annual) in production straight bourbons from the major distilleries. I listed private selections where they are what I consider a different expression from one of the standard bottlings. I listed export only expressions if I think they are still in production. Lots of "cats and dogs" are missing (especially from Heaven Hill) so please let me know if they are still widely available somewhere, such that they are worth adding. Perhaps some of the Luxco products should be added to the Heaven Hill list as well?

 

I have taken information from various places around the web, so I will not be insulted at all if you think something is wrong - please share. Also, any additions, corrections, whatever can make this better are welcome. One particular area where I think additional information is needed are the Barton (VOB and 1792) mash bills. Also, my minutes of research (hey I said I had small children) did not yield a clear answer on whether Old Forester Single Barrel selections carry age statements - well, one of you must know?

 

GREAT JOB!!!!    My hat is off to you, Josh!   This had to be a hell of lot of work... it certainly would've been for me and my one good typing finger anyway.

When I factor in the "small children" for whom I assume you bear some responsibility of care and direction... well I am left in awe!

Thanx for this effort.

[Jazz June]

7 hours ago, CUfan99 said:

Good job Josh. Should BiBs that aren’t otherwise age stated be listed as 4 yrs old rather than NAS? Just a thought. 

Well, all NAS straight bourbons are at least 4 years old, so my logic was that a 4 year notation is redundant, even for the products advertised or effectively marked as four years old. Also, I would hope that the $40+ BiB products are more than 4 years old.

 

In looking at the table today, I note that the 1792 Sweet Wheat mash bill must be wrong, as it lists a standard rye bourbon mash bill. I would think the 1792 High Rye would be a different mash bill from their other offerings, but have not seen any specific information on that. I believe there is some discussion of how many mash bills the Barton distillery uses earlier in this thread, but don't recall a conclusion being reached. 

 

Also, I see the "Jime" Beam Black typo.

[PowderKeg]

On 12/8/2018 at 11:43 AM, Jazz June said:

....

In looking at the table today, I note that the 1792 Sweet Wheat mash bill must be wrong, as it lists a standard rye bourbon mash bill. I would think the 1792 High Rye would be a different mash bill from their other offerings, but have not seen any specific information on that. I believe there is some discussion of how many mash bills the Barton distillery uses earlier in this thread, but don't recall a conclusion being reached....

When I talked to Barton at the Bourbon Fest last year, they stated all VOB was one mashbill and most 1792 was another, with HR and (obviously) SW having their own different mashbills as well.  They wouldn't say what the general %'s were.  I was a little surprised about HR - thought it might be choice barrels of the VOB bill, if VOB has a higher rye content, which they wouldn't comment on either.

 

You also need to add 1792 Port Finish to your list, but I don't know the proof.

[Charlutz]

I believe 1792PF is 89 proof but that’s from memory. 

[kevinbrink]

19 hours ago, Charlutz said:

I believe 1792PF is 89 proof but that’s from memory. 

Pretty much it was a more specific 44.45% abv 88.9 proof...

[PowderKeg]

Couple more notes on Old Forester:

 

- "Signature" is no longer Signature, it's just "100"

- "Statesman" is missing, 95 pf

- your "PS" should actually be "Single Barrel", but it is commonly seen as a private selection too.

 

Good job on the list, a real challenge to keep up with it.

[Bours]

Dannggg thanks Josh!

[clearmoon247]

On 12/7/2018 at 11:05 PM, Jazz June said:

I have taken information from various places around the web, so I will not be insulted at all if you think something is wrong - please share. Also, any additions, corrections, whatever can make this better are welcome.

Just to dig up a bit of an older post, the list for the Heaven Hill mash bills are completely inaccurate. Recently (April) did a tasting at HH and they gave us a chart of the various mash bills of their products, which can also be found on their website.

 

All that being said, good job with the compilation!

[Jazz June]

11 hours ago, clearmoon247 said:

Just to dig up a bit of an older post, the list for the Heaven Hill mash bills are completely inaccurate. Recently (April) did a tasting at HH and they gave us a chart of the various mash bills of their products, which can also be found on their website.

 

All that being said, good job with the compilation!

Thank you. It would seem your source is certainly more accurate than mine (I don't recall the particular source, but still).

[JoeTerp]

On 10/4/2019 at 10:24 AM, clearmoon247 said:

Just to dig up a bit of an older post, the list for the Heaven Hill mash bills are completely inaccurate. Recently (April) did a tasting at HH and they gave us a chart of the various mash bills of their products, which can also be found on their website.

 

All that being said, good job with the compilation!

funny that they mis-spelled Bernheim

[tanstaafl2]

On 10/4/2019 at 10:24 AM, clearmoon247 said:

Just to dig up a bit of an older post, the list for the Heaven Hill mash bills are completely inaccurate. Recently (April) did a tasting at HH and they gave us a chart of the various mash bills of their products, which can also be found on their website.

 

All that being said, good job with the compilation!

It is interesting to me how minimal the difference appears to be from the rye bourbon and the corn whiskey. Obviously they are aged differently but I wonder how much difference it would make compared  to a current EW or Elijah Craig if you aged  the corn whiskey mashbill in new charred oak like a bourbon.

[clearmoon247]

That 2% is so minimal. The char does play a huge role in the overall flavor of a whiskey

[The Black Tot]

On 10/17/2019 at 12:53 AM, tanstaafl2 said:

It is interesting to me how minimal the difference appears to be from the rye bourbon and the corn whiskey. Obviously they are aged differently but I wonder how much difference it would make compared  to a current EW or Elijah Craig if you aged  the corn whiskey mashbill in new charred oak like a bourbon.

I'm shocked because I remember that Old Charter was 80% corn and I always thought "wow, that is extreme and unique in the industry".

 

Turns out it isn't.  I am also surprised to find out EW and EC AND McKenna are the same mashbill, given the differences in their profiles. 

[tanstaafl2]

21 hours ago, The Black Tot said:

I'm shocked because I remember that Old Charter was 80% corn and I always thought "wow, that is extreme and unique in the industry".

 

Turns out it isn't.  I am also surprised to find out EW and EC AND McKenna are the same mashbill, given the differences in their profiles. 

That part I knew. If you have enough barrels to choose from (and HH certainly does!) aged in various locations geographically as well different levels in the rickhouse, throw in barrel variability and various ages and you can end up with a pretty wide variety of profiles if you choose to do so!