Yeti Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Good point, Yeti. I'm just saying, YMMV. And I didn't exactly move heaven and earth to find them. Dropped some cash on some other bottles, got in good with the owner, moved quickly and to some extent may have gotten lucky.Just pulling your leg, bud. It's exactly your kind I story that keeps the hope alive for everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki993 Posted November 1, 2013 Author Share Posted November 1, 2013 Hopefully mine too, well I wont be tripping over anything, Im only getting one bottle if I can....for whatever reason I feel strangely optimistic about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Santana Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Hopefully mine too, well I wont be tripping over anything, Im only getting one bottle if I can....for whatever reason I feel strangely optimistic about it...Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinjoe Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 If you don't have one, and you want one...yes, it's worth the hunt. Just, retain your dignity and your Soul while doing so...:toast: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theglobalguy Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 If you don't have one, and you want one...yes, it's worth the hunt. Just, retain your dignity and your Soul while doing so...:toast:I always go with the approach of "don't do anything you'd hide from your Mother or your Employer", Otherwise...have at it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkEdwards Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 When is the "new" distillation of Pappy bourbons coming out of BT? I seem to remember they were eventually going to release some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
393foureyedfox Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I always go with the approach of "don't do anything you'd hide from your Mother or your Employer", Otherwise...have at it!if only the other 99.9% of the population thought like that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighInTheMtns Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 When is the "new" distillation of Pappy bourbons coming out of BT? I seem to remember they were eventually going to release some.Do you mean when will BT distillate be in bottles labeled "Pappy Van Winkle?" Because that already happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 When is the "new" distillation of Pappy bourbons coming out of BT? Not sure of your question Mark, are you asking at what point will all Pappy labels be 100% Buffalo Trace distillate? It's my understanding the 23 is still SW whisky, the 20 is SW/BT blend and all the rest is BT though I don't follow such things closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd2005 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Not sure of your question Mark, are you asking at what point will all Pappy labels be 100% Buffalo Trace distillate? It's my understanding the 23 is still SW whisky, the 20 is SW/BT blend and all the rest is BT though I don't follow such things closely.It seems like the closer you try to follow it, the more confusing it gets...I've read so many different statements on this site alone about the supposed composition of the current releases... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) My post was based on some comments made by Julian and Preston Van Winkle, also a few from Harlen Wheatley, but I wasn't really paying attention to them because it's not something I care much about. If all the Van Winkle/Pappy versions were readily available on the shelves I would still pass. Edited November 2, 2013 by squire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
393foureyedfox Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 it's not something I care much about. If all the Van Winkle/Pappy versions were readily available on the shelves I would still pass.that says a lot right there. Squire's been at this for decades, and still says this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Dog Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 that says a lot right there. Squire's been at this for decades, and still says this.Yeah, but Squire's not a wheater guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOldKyDram Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I know I'd be a Pappy camper if ORVW or VWFRR were always available on the shelves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkEdwards Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Not sure of your question Mark, are you asking at what point will all Pappy labels be 100% Buffalo Trace distillate? It's my understanding the 23 is still SW whisky, the 20 is SW/BT blend and all the rest is BT though I don't follow such things closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richnimrod Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 .....is chasing pappy worth it or should I look elsewhere for something different? I mean you have to do it at least once right? IMHO the answers to your questions in order are: Pappy isn't really special enough in intrinsic taste/aroma to be worth the price. It is, of course the great 'unicorn' of many folks who hunt it. So, for respect and rarity it is in a class by itself. That doesn't mean it's fabulous, only rare, expensive, and hard to get. As to 'something different', you mentioned you have many in the lower to middle price ranges that you like well enough; so there's your answer. As to the idea that "you have to do it at least once"; there is no such rule. ... But, it is an experience that will broaden your understanding of what all the commotion might be (or not be). So, look for a place that'll serve you a dram of it at $25 or $30 and try it "once". Then you'll truly know whether it's worth the effort and expense to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulO Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I agree with everyone that said to try a pour at a bar. I remember that for many years, I could have easily walked into one of several stores and bought the various VWs for regular retail prices. I thought the stuff was some kind of novelty/permanent store display in the glass case with the crazy expensive scotch and tequilas. I did purchase a couple bottles of Old Rip, when I could get it under $40. I thought it was good, but very similar and not better than Weller 12 at $25. Granted Pappy is older. Older doesn't guarantee you will like it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smknjoe Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Don't forget you can probably get a sample from some of the fine SBers around here. That's how I got my first taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 As to whether it's something one should do at least once I'm reminded of the bamboo fly rod aficionados who want to fish with an original Dickerson just once and when they do discover that while nice it isn't really identifiably "better" than one that cost 1/10th of the price.Sometimes rare and expensive is just rare and expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodowsky Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 There are those who love or hate Pappy because it's fashionable to love or hate Pappy There are those that love it or not because they just love it or not. All I know is that I've enjoyed it for more years than I want to admit and it's always been a tasty treat. I've also never paid more than retail for a bottle. It's always been worth it to me. YMM-Certainly-V. But, IMO, you should try it - preferably with a good friend on a good night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroo5880i Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 There are those who love or hate Pappy because it's fashionable to love or hate Pappy There are those that love it or not because they just love it or not.All I know is that I've enjoyed it for more years than I want to admit and it's always been a tasty treat. I've also never paid more than retail for a bottle. It's always been worth it to me. YMM-Certainly-V. But, IMO, you should try it - preferably with a good friend on a good night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smknjoe Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 This raises a good question. What is the MSRP for the various releases? I checked the internet and can only find online premium prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I have not bought any since 2009 when I bought 2x PVW20 ($75 each) and 6x PVW15 ($45 each) on clearance because it wouldn't sell at this college area store (I drink it sparingly, still have 1.4 and 4.5 bottles). It had been on the shelf since 2007, so they said. The same store just announced that this year there will be a lottery with the prices $100 for the PVW15, $200 for the 20, and $300 for the 23. Times have changed. As mentioned earlier, I love my Pappy but for the price I buy W12 and OWA.Interestingly, I suddenly have many friends asking me where to get Pappy, that they just have to have a bottle, since all the news about the stolen Pappy??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagehenry Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I have not bought any since 2009 when I bought 2x PVW20 ($75 each) and 6x PVW15 ($45 each) on clearance because it wouldn't sell at this college area storeDamn, I really need to get to work on my Flux Capacitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dementedavenger Posted November 4, 2013 Share Posted November 4, 2013 I have not bought any since 2009 when I bought 2x PVW20 ($75 each) and 6x PVW15 ($45 each) on clearance because it wouldn't sell at this college area store (I drink it sparingly, still have 1.4 and 4.5 bottles). It had been on the shelf since 2007, so they said. The same store just announced that this year there will be a lottery with the prices $100 for the PVW15, $200 for the 20, and $300 for the 23. Times have changed. As mentioned earlier, I love my Pappy but for the price I buy W12 and OWA.Interestingly, I suddenly have many friends asking me where to get Pappy, that they just have to have a bottle, since all the news about the stolen Pappy???Receipt from online order placed on 10/28/09. Those were days, lol:Order Number: 3722Description Quantity Price Ext Price.Old Rip Van Winkle 10 Year 107 Pr 3 $34.99 $104.97Item #: 31446Old Rip Van Winkle 10 Year 90 Pro 3 $28.99 $86.97Item #: 42373 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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