Josh Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Did your hands turn into lobster claws again?More or less. Saw the rheumatologist today and it looks like some form of inflammatory arthritis. Good thing I don't use my hands for blogging or being a stay-at-home dad. :skep: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Bummer. Probably can't treat it with bourbon either.Have you tried speech recognition software? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Bummer. Probably can't treat it with bourbon either.Have you tried speech recognition software?I'll definately look into it. Thanks for the tip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_elliott Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 More or less. Saw the rheumatologist today and it looks like some form of inflammatory arthritis. Good thing I don't use my hands for blogging or being a stay-at-home dad. :skep: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorvallisCracker Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Your way to young to be having these problems.Aren't we all?Seriously, get well soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Hope I didn't forget any of the suggestions made over that last few months.Mashbill Source: Regan & Regan, The Book of Bourbon and Other Fine American Whiskeys (London: Mixellany) 2009. Barton, WT, and Dickel are noted as approximate.Brand Name (%corn/%rye or wheat/%malted barley)Whiskey Tree, 4Now with cooperage information!Note: These tree is only a breakdown of "macro" distillersBeam, #4 char, Indepnedent StaveBeam Mashbill- all JB bourbons, Old Crow, Old Taylor*, Knob Creek, Baker's, Booker'sOld Grandad Mashbill- OGD, Basil HaydenRye- JB Rye, Old Overholt, Ri¹Brown-Forman, #3 char, Brown-Forman CooperageOld Forester (72/18/10)- Old Forester, Woodford ReserveEarly Times (79/11/10)Jack Daniels (80/8/12)Rye (see Heaven Hill below)- Current source of Heaven Hill's Pikeville and Rittenhouse ryes.Also sells to many NDPs.Buffalo Trace, #4 char, Independent Stave#1, higher corn BT White Dog, Benchmark, Buffalo Trace, Old Charter, Eagle Rare, Geo. T. Stagg#2, lower corn- Ancient Age*, Elmer T. Lee, Hancock, Blanton's*, Rock Hill Farms, Virginia Gentleman (no longer produced), Bowman Single BarrelWheat bourbon: Everything Weller, Van Winkle Special Reserve "Lot B"*, Old Rip Van Winkle*Rye: Sazerac, Bowman Rye (?)Diageo, char #3, Indpendent StaveDickel (80/12/8) George Dickel, Cascade HollowFour Roses, #3.5 charHas 2 mashbills and 5 yeasts.All Ten Combinations- Four Roses (yellow label)OBSK, OBSO, OESK, OESO- Four Roses Small BatchOBSV- Four Roses Single BarrelAll the combinations are also available as Single Barrel, Barrel Strength retailer bottlings.Also sells whiskey to Diageo that goes into Bulleit (from the high rye OBS recipes) and I.W. Harper (not available in the U.S.). Also produces the overseas version of McKenna. For more information, including mashbills, see Oscar's chart here.Heaven Hill, #3 char, Indpendent StaveRye Bourbon (75/13/12)- Heaven Hill, J.T.S. Brown, T.W. Samuels, Evan Williams, Elijah Craig, Henry McKenna (U.S.), Parker's Heritage (except for 2010), et al. Also probably the source of Luxco's Ezra Brooks line and the current Yellowstone.Wheat Bourbon- Old Fitzgerald, Parker's Heritage 2010. Also probably the source of Luxco's Rebel Yell and Rebel Reserve.Wheat Whiskey- Bernheim OriginalRye Whiskey (37/51/12, aprox.)**- Future source of Pikesville and Rittenhouse 80 & BiB, current source of Rittenhouse 21 & 23 (?)Corn Whiskey: Mellow Corn, JW Corn, Georgia Moon, Platte Valley*Also sells to many NDPs.LDI, ??? char, Independent Stave?Sells bourbon and rye for many brands including Templeton, High West, W.H. Harrison, Cougar (Australia), Bulleit Rye and KBD. For a breakdown of the of corn, rye and bourbon whiskey mashbills used, see the LDI website: http://www.lawrenceburgdistillersind...om/Custom.aspxMaker's Mark, #3 char, Independent StaveMaker's Mark (70/16/14)Tom Moore, #3 char, Independent StaveBarton (75/15/10)- Very Old Barton all proofs +???1792 (high barley?)- 1792 Ridgemont Reserve, +???Other Bourbons: Tom Moore BiB, Kentucky Gentleman, Kentucky Tavern, Ten High, Walker's Delluxe, other "cats & dogs".The rest, unknownRye- Fleischman's RyeBefore it was purchased by Sazerac, sold to a lot of NDPs.Wild Turkey, #4 "the heavy char", Independent StaveBourbon (75/13/12)- Wild Turkey, Russell's Reserve BourbonRye (37/51/12, aprox.)**- Wild Turkey Rye, Russell's Reserve RyeBrands on the market with whiskey from closed distilleries:Medley Rye- Older bottlings of Hirsch, post-PA Michter's, Black Maple Hill rye, others?Mix of Medley Rye and Cream of Kentucky rye (Bernheim distillery)- Van Winkle Family Reserve RyeStitzel-Weller bourbon- Pappy Van Winkle, Jefferson's Reserve 17, 18 et al*Brand not owned by the distiller.**Based on more current information. Regan & Regan list both ryes at 23/65/12.PROBLEMS/QUESTIONS: Regan & Regan list an approximate mashbill for all the bourbons made at "Ancient Age Distillery" as 80/10/10. That can't be right, but which mashbill does that represent, #1 or #2?Also, a mashbill of 75/20/5 is listed for Old Fitz, Weller and Rebel Yell while at Bernheim. What is the current mashbill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etohchem Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Buffalo Trace, #4 char, Independent Stave#2, lower corn- Ancient Age*, Elmer T. Lee, Hancock, Blanton's*, Rock Hill Farms, Virginia Gentleman (no longer produced), Bowman Single Barrel[ I have it on pretty good authority that Virginia Gentleman IS still being produced and sold, never went out of production. "the Fox" 90 proof is no longer bottled but there are several fine bourbons under theASB label, Bowman brothers small batch (90 proof), John Bowman single barrel (100 proof) and Abraham Bowman (limited/special releases)Etohchem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_elliott Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I have it on pretty good authority that Virginia Gentleman IS still being produced and sold, never went out of production. "the Fox" 90 proof is no longer bottled but there are several fine bourbons under theASB label, Bowman brothers small batch (90 proof), John Bowman single barrel (100 proof) and Abraham Bowman (limited/special releases)EtohchemSeeing how your the new Master Distiller at ASB maybe you could do something about bringing the Fox back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.H.Adams Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I'll second that request. I am enjoying the Bowman Rye and looking forward to trying the others that TPS has brought in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Dog Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Just awesome, Josh.This tree is beyond essential.Moderators, may we please sticky??:cool: :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I have it on pretty good authority that Virginia Gentleman IS still being produced and sold, never went out of production. "the Fox" 90 proof is no longer bottled but there are several fine bourbons under theASB label, Bowman brothers small batch (90 proof), John Bowman single barrel (100 proof) and Abraham Bowman (limited/special releases)EtohchemI knew I forgot something! Thanks for the correction. I loved the bottle of the Single Barrel I got a year or so ago. Great stuff. But I do miss the Fox! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I found my notes from a 2007 interview with Eddie Russell in which he told me the mash bill for Wild Turkey Rye is 51% rye.He also told me they make rye three to four days a year. That was almost four years ago, so they may be up to five by now. They age it on the middle floors of the warehouses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightBoston Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I have it on pretty good authorityThis made me smile. Congratulations Truman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbon Boiler Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Is the Russell's Reserve Rye a blend of three different ages of WT Rye in the same respect that the bourbon is? That is, a blend of specifically selected barrels of the same mashbill, same char, only different lengths of time in the warehouse(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_elliott Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Is the Russell's Reserve Rye a blend of three different ages of WT Rye in the same respect that the bourbon is? That is, a blend of specifically selected barrels of the same mashbill, same char, only different lengths of time in the warehouse(s).The RR rye is 6 years old all of it. Your confusing the RR Bourbon which is all 10 yrs old with Rare Breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightNoChaser Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 This is an invaluable resource. Now if only someone would format it to make for easier absorption! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMOWK Posted September 26, 2011 Author Share Posted September 26, 2011 This is an invaluable resource. Now if only someone would format it to make for easier absorption!Maybe something like this?http://www.mediafire.com/?w6tby45z9n4lb55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timd Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 This is an invaluable resource. Now if only someone would format it to make for easier absorption!I'm working on a graphical approach... but not moving super fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbon Boiler Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 The RR rye is 6 years old all of it. Your confusing the RR Bourbon which is all 10 yrs old with Rare Breed.Thanks for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Mashbill Source: Regan & Regan, The Book of Bourbon and Other Fine American Whiskeys (London: Mixellany) 2009, unless otherwise noted. Barton, WT, and Dickel are noted as approximate. Brand Name (%corn/%rye or wheat/%malted barley)Whiskey Tree, 4.1Note: These tree is only a breakdown of "macro" distillersBarton-1792, #3 char, Independent StaveBarton (75/15/10)- Very Old Barton all proofs +???1792 (high barley?)- 1792 Ridgemont Reserve, +???Other Bourbons: Tom Moore BiB, Kentucky Gentleman, Kentucky Tavern, Ten High, Walker's Delluxe, other "cats & dogs".The rest, unknownRye- Fleischman's RyeBefore it was purchased by Sazerac, sold to a lot of NDPs.Beam, #4 char, Indepnedent StaveBeam Mashbill- all JB bourbons, Old Crow, Old Taylor*, Knob Creek, Baker's, Booker'sOld Grandad Mashbill- OGD, Basil HaydenRye- JB Rye, Old Overholt, Ri¹Brown-Forman, #3 char, Brown-Forman CooperageOld Forester (72/18/10)- Old Forester, Woodford ReserveEarly Times (79/11/10)Jack Daniels (80/8/12)Rye (see Heaven Hill below)- Current source of Heaven Hill's Pikeville and Rittenhouse ryes.Also sells to many NDPs.Buffalo Trace, #4 char, Independent Stave#1, higher corn BT White Dog, Benchmark, Buffalo Trace, Old Charter, Eagle Rare, Geo. T. Stagg#2, lower corn- Ancient Age*, Elmer T. Lee*, Hancock*, Blanton's*, Rock Hill Farms*, Virginia Gentleman, Bowman BourbonsWheat bourbon: Everything Weller, Van Winkle Special Reserve "Lot B"*, Old Rip Van Winkle*Rye: Sazerac, Bowman RyeDiageo, char #3, Indpendent StaveDickel (80/12/8)George Dickel, Cascade HollowFour Roses, #3.5 charHas 2 mashbills and 5 yeasts.All Ten Combinations- Four Roses (yellow label)OBSK, OBSO, OESK, OESO- Four Roses Small BatchOBSV- Four Roses Single BarrelAll the combinations are also available as Single Barrel, Barrel Strength retailer bottlings.Also sells whiskey to Diageo that goes into Bulleit (from the high rye OBS recipes) and I.W. Harper (not available in the U.S.) and produces the overseas version of McKenna. For more information, including mashbills, see Oscar's chart here.Heaven Hill, #3 char, Indpendent StaveRye Bourbon (75/13/12)- Heaven Hill, J.T.S. Brown, T.W. Samuels, Evan Williams, Elijah Craig, Henry McKenna (U.S.), Parker's Heritage (except for 2010), et al. Also probably the source of Luxco's Ezra Brooks line and the current Yellowstone.Wheat Bourbon- Old Fitzgerald, Parker's Heritage 2010. Also probably the source of Luxco's Rebel Yell and Rebel Reserve.Wheat Whiskey- Bernheim OriginalRye Whiskey (37/51/12, aprox.)**- Future source of Pikesville and Rittenhouse 80 & BiB, current source of Rittenhouse 21 & 23 (?)Corn Whiskey: Mellow Corn, JW Corn, Georgia Moon, Platte Valley*Also sells to many NDPs.LDI, ??? char, Independent Stave?Sells bourbon and rye for many brands including Templeton, Redemption et al, High West, W.H. Harrison, Cougar (Australia), Bulleit Rye and KBD. For a breakdown of the of corn, rye and bourbon whiskey mashbills used, see the LDI website: http://www.lawrenceburgdistillersind...om/Custom.aspxMaker's Mark, #3 char, Independent StaveMaker's Mark (70/16/14)Wild Turkey, #4 "the heavy char", Independent StaveBourbon (75/13/12)- Wild Turkey, Russell's Reserve BourbonRye (37/51/12, aprox.)**- Wild Turkey Rye, Russell's Reserve RyeBrands on the market with whiskey from closed distilleries:Medley Rye- Older bottlings of Hirsch, post-PA Michter's, Black Maple Hill rye, others?Mix of Medley Rye and Cream of Kentucky rye (Bernheim distillery)- Van Winkle Family Reserve RyeStitzel-Weller bourbon- Pappy Van Winkle (?), Jefferson's Reserve 17, 18 et alA few American bottlers and/or marketers have been purchasing 100% rye rye from a Canadian distillery or distilleries. It is often presumed these are from Alberta distillers in Calgary, but as of yet there is no firm evidence. So far, these are Whistle Pig and Jefferson's Rye.*Brand(s) not owned by the distiller.**Based on more current information.PROBLEMS/QUESTIONS: Regan & Regan list an approximate mashbill for all the bourbons made at "Ancient Age Distillery" as 80/10/10. That can't be right, but which mashbill does that represent, #1 or #2?Also, a mashbill of 75/20/5 is listed for Old Fitz, Weller and Rebel Yell while at Bernheim. What is the current mashbill?OK, been away from this for a while, so I assume a forgot a bunch of stuff discussed since then. Let me know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Dog Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 As always, Josh, outstanding!:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: How about EH Taylor being listed under BT High Corn, and Stephen Foster under HH's Rye group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 As always, Josh, outstanding!:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: How about EH Taylor being listed under BT High Corn, and Stephen Foster under HH's Rye group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Mashbill Source: Regan & Regan, The Book of Bourbon and Other Fine American Whiskeys (London: Mixellany) 2009, unless otherwise noted. Barton, WT, and Dickel are noted as approximate. Brand Name (%corn/%rye or wheat/%malted barley)Whiskey Tree, 4.2Note: These tree is only a breakdown of "macro" distillersBarton-1792, #3 char, Independent StaveBarton (75/15/10)- Very Old Barton all proofs +???1792 (high barley?)- 1792 Ridgemont Reserve, +???Other Bourbons: Tom Moore BiB, Kentucky Gentleman, Kentucky Tavern, Ten High, Walker's Delluxe, other "cats & dogs".The rest, unknownRye- Fleischman's RyeBefore it was purchased by Sazerac, sold to a lot of NDPs.Beam, #4 char, Indepnedent StaveBeam Mashbill- all JB bourbons, Old Crow, Old Taylor*, Knob Creek, Baker's, Booker'sOld Grandad Mashbill- OGD, Basil HaydenRye- JB Rye, Old Overholt, Ri¹Brown-Forman, #3 char, Brown-Forman CooperageOld Forester (72/18/10)- Old Forester, Woodford ReserveEarly Times (79/11/10)Jack Daniels (80/8/12)Rye (see Heaven Hill below)- Current source of Heaven Hill's Pikeville and Rittenhouse ryes.Also sells to many NDPs.Buffalo Trace, #4 char, Independent Stave#1, higher corn BT White Dog, Benchmark, Buffalo Trace, Old Charter, Eagle Rare, Col. E.H. Taylor, Geo. T. Stagg#2, lower corn- Ancient Age*, Elmer T. Lee*, Hancock*, Blanton's*, Rock Hill Farms*, Virginia Gentleman, Bowman BourbonsWheat bourbon: Everything Weller, Van Winkle Special Reserve "Lot B"*, Old Rip Van Winkle*Rye: Sazerac, Bowman RyeDiageo, char #3, Indpendent StaveDickel (80/12/8)George Dickel, Cascade HollowFour Roses, #3.5 charHas 2 mashbills and 5 yeasts.All Ten Combinations- Four Roses (yellow label)OBSK, OBSO, OESK, OESO- Four Roses Small BatchOBSV- Four Roses Single BarrelAll the combinations are also available as Single Barrel, Barrel Strength retailer bottlings.Also sells whiskey to Diageo that goes into Bulleit (from the high rye OBS recipes) and I.W. Harper (not available in the U.S.) and produces the overseas version of McKenna. For more information, including mashbills, see Oscar's chart here.Heaven Hill, #3 char, Indpendent StaveRye Bourbon (75/13/12)- Heaven Hill, J.T.S. Brown, T.W. Samuels, Evan Williams, Elijah Craig, Henry McKenna (U.S.), Parker's Heritage (except for 2010), et al. Also probably the source of Luxco's Ezra Brooks line and the current Yellowstone.Wheat Bourbon- Old Fitzgerald, Parker's Heritage 2010. Also probably the source of Luxco's Rebel Yell and Rebel Reserve.Wheat Whiskey- Bernheim OriginalRye Whiskey (37/51/12, aprox.)**- Future source of Pikesville and Rittenhouse 80 & BiB, Stephen Foster, current source of Rittenhouse 21 & 23 (?)Corn Whiskey: Mellow Corn, JW Corn, Georgia Moon, Platte Valley*Also sells to many NDPs.LDI, ??? char, Independent Stave?Sells bourbon and rye for many brands including Templeton, Redemption et al, High West, W.H. Harrison, Cougar (Australia), Bulleit Rye and KBD. For a breakdown of the of corn, rye and bourbon whiskey mashbills used, see the LDI website: http://www.lawrenceburgdistillersind...om/Custom.aspxMaker's Mark, #3 char, Independent StaveMaker's Mark (70/16/14)Wild Turkey, #4 "the heavy char", Independent StaveBourbon (75/13/12)- Wild Turkey, Russell's Reserve BourbonRye (37/51/12, aprox.)**- Wild Turkey Rye, Russell's Reserve RyeBrands on the market with whiskey from closed distilleries:Medley Rye- Older bottlings of Hirsch, post-PA Michter's(?), Black Maple Hill rye, others?Mix of Medley Rye and Cream of Kentucky rye (Bernheim distillery)- Van Winkle Family Reserve RyeStitzel-Weller bourbon- Pappy Van Winkle (?), Jefferson's Reserve 17, 18 et alA few American bottlers and/or marketers have been purchasing 100% rye rye from a Canadian distillery or distilleries. It is often presumed these are from Alberta distillers in Calgary, but as of yet there is no firm evidence. So far, these are Whistle Pig and Jefferson's Rye.*Brand(s) not owned by the distiller.**Based on more current information.PROBLEMS/QUESTIONS: Regan & Regan list an approximate mashbill for all the bourbons made at "Ancient Age Distillery" as 80/10/10. That can't be right, but which mashbill does that represent, #1 or #2?Also, a mashbill of 75/20/5 is listed for Old Fitz, Weller and Rebel Yell while at Bernheim. What is the current mashbill?Again, if anybody sees anything screwy, don't be shy! post it here so it can be corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_elliott Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 How do we know that the E H Taylor is the high corn / low rye mash bill? This is a different bourbon every year. One year it's going to made with white corn. Not trying to ruffle any feathers just asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 How do we know that the E H Taylor is the high corn / low rye mash bill? This is a different bourbon every year. One year it's going to made with white corn. Not trying to ruffle any feathers just asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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