The Vatting Thread 2014

[Crowes]

I tried a new one this weekend that I really liked, not sure if it has been mentioned here before. I did 80% OWA, and 20% ER10. Reall , really nice. Brought the proof down just a smidge, rounded out the harsher notes of the OWA. I just did a few glasses as a test, and didn't let it rest for very long. I'm definitely going to try a full bottle vat now.

[sutton]

One of my Favs that came out of this mentality-- AAA10yr/Stagg jr. 70:30 Wow just fantastic.

Thanks Don - nothing wrong with experimenting, I do it myself with no more thought behind it other than boredom.

And this suggestion is one that I hadn't thought of, but can see how this could really work. I have some AAA10yr, and at times it seems it needs a bit of something. I was looking for a reason to buy a Stagg Jr., this could be it. Cheers!

[dSculptor]

Been having this controversy with myself over RB12 & GS (Green Spot) which one do I like better? They both are excellent I think the GS edges out the RB12 by a hair, So..... I did it...vatted them 1:1...I must say these play together well! I immediately mixed up a 200 ml batch of it..the best of both worlds in one. I love it when a plan comes together! A must try if you got 'em....

And Mark, I totally agree with you on the AAA10 yr. just seems a bit flat to me. It's definitely one of my "fillers" or bases for my vats.

Edited November 12, 2014 by dSculptor

[tanstaafl2]

Been having this controversy with myself over RB12 & GS (Green Spot) which one do I like better? They both are excellent I think the GS edges out the RB12 by a hair, So..... I did it...vatted them 1:1...I must say these play together well! I immediately mixed up a 200 ml batch of it..the best of both worlds in one. I love it when a plan comes together! A must try if you got 'em....

Different ages of pretty much the same whiskey (GS is several years younger). But I rather like the differences in them the different ages create. Not sure I can make myself do that to either of them!

[tanstaafl2]

Different ages of pretty much the same whiskey (GS is several years younger). But I rather like the differences in them the different ages create. Not sure I can make myself do that to either of them!

RB12 does likely get a good bit more sherry cask aging than GS though GS does have some aging in sherry casks.

[dSculptor]

Not sure I can make myself do that to either of them!

Just try 'em ...you got nothing to loose! Just pour a little of each in your glencairn and be ready for a pleasant surprise!

[tanstaafl2]

Just try 'em ...you got nothing to loose! Just pour a little of each in your glencairn and be ready for a pleasant surprise!

Gonna have to give that one some thought. Fortunately I have a good bit of both so I might eventually overcome my apprehension... :cool:

[HD 335]

My Four Roses barrel proof vat didn't work out well. Even parts 12 year 2 month OESV, 9 year 7 year OESF and 9 year 5 month OBSK. Came out to be a super candied corn taste.

[BB Slim]

Any suggestion what might making a good vatting with Baby Saz?

[Paddy]

A cheap/easy try would be Larceny. Maybe a Weller, but there sure is a lot more of the Larceny around nowadays.

[BB Slim]

A cheap/easy try would be Larceny. Maybe a Weller, but there sure is a lot more of the Larceny around nowadays.

Thanks for the suggestion Paddy. I have some Larceny on hand and will give it a try.

[dSculptor]

I've never tried the Baby Saz... might be time too. We did a vat of some OF 1849 and OF 12 last night these 2 play very well together.I think I prefer the Of 1849 over the 12. Much better nose for me.

[dSculptor]

Tried an interesting one last night: KC/AAA10 yr. with a touch of WFR 5 yr. The first 2 were very good on their own, but wanted to add a bit more proof so went with the WFR. I have to say, quite tasty(of course don't think I ever had a bad one, just keep adding till it gets there). Ratio was 125ml/125ml to 50 ml of the WFR.

[Vadertime]

I think I read somewhere on SB.com that someone has a very good vatting of WT101/MM/4RYL. I can't find the post anymore though. Anyone have any feedback on this?

Also, I would imagine that GlenMorangie 10 would make a good Scotch/Bourbon vatter. Anyone play around crossing the Atlantic?

Cheers

[amg]

Is it time to start a "vatting thread 2015" or just rename this one?

I'm currently sipping on a 60/40 Larceny/4RSB vat that I mixed up about a week ago. It's tasty but I don't think I like it as much as either of its components.

[Tony Santana]

Felt like experimenting tonight, a few that were just okay, but two I really liked. 5 parts OFBB13, 4 parts Barterhouse, 2 parts WFE 10 year. Really good. Then a 60/40 blend of MWND and VOS19. Just kind of threw that one together at the end, but the oakiness of the VOB balanced out the sweetness/port/fruitiness of the MWND. Thought it was a terrific pour.

[dSculptor]

Felt like experimenting tonight, a few that were just okay, but two I really liked. 5 parts OFBB13, 4 parts Barterhouse, 2 parts WFE 10 year. Really good. Then a 60/40 blend of MWND and VOS19. Just kind of threw that one together at the end, but the oakiness of the VOB balanced out the sweetness/port/fruitiness of the MWND. Thought it was a terrific pour.

Hey Tony, glad to see you experimenting, VOS19? sure you meant VOB but what's the 19 about? How'd you like the W12 you scored?

[Tony Santana]

VOS 19 = SA Very Old Scout 19 year old. I said VOB in the second part of my post, but that was wrong. Maybe had a few too many samples by the time I was typing that. VOS 19 is a dusty now, very nice pour, I get a bold caramel as the predominant flavor, but there is a fair amount of oak presence.

The Weller 12 is just fine. Was lucky enough to score a second bottle, not too much showed up in our fine state. That said, I'm not quite sure why people go crazy over it. A solid pour/fine bourbon to be sure, but nothing spectacular, and when the price starts creeping into the $30's one has to wonder whether there aren't better alternatives.

GO PACK!

[dSculptor]

Hey guys, just tried another winner tonight! 50/50 EC12 Bp / ORVW10 107, Oh my what a vat!!! I got dark chocolate and caramel, nice bite at first then quickly dissipating into a smooth finish....if you got it ---- try it! (119.7 proof with the ECBP 132.4 batch)

[amg]

Hey guys, just tried another winner tonight! 50/50 EC12 Bp / ORVW10 107, Oh my what a vat!!! I got dark chocolate and caramel, nice bite at first then quickly dissipating into a smooth finish....if you got it ---- try it! (119.7 proof with the ECBP 132.4 batch)

I wonder how OWA would do in place of ORVW? Might have to try that later.

[R-Savage]

Interesting thread:

What the Heck Im going to try this tonight with my two favorites

50/50 EWB/4RSB

Ill keep you posted

[Paddy]

WTRB and WTKS @ 50/50 is a 107 proof home run!

[R-Savage]

Alright Just made my little recipe. In my opinion. This is great I think Less EWB maybe 30 / 70 Mixture and this would be perfect. I must say. Very Nice for a first attempt

The aroma is very mild, some the sweetness of the EWB has been taken away, and the silky creamy texture of the 4RSB has snuck in. THis is a must try at 50/50

The Recipe

1 oz Evan Williams Black, with 1 oz of Four Roses Single Barrel

after the second and third sips.... Very Nice.

[GaryT]

So . . . I am on the brink of having all 10 Four Roses recipes, and of course my first thought is "What are the vatting possibilities?"

I've got 3 in mind I want to start on this weekend:

1) All 10 in equal proportions (likely a "micro vat", using like 6 mL of each which gives me about a 2 oz vat)

2) All OB recipes in equal proportions (similar approach, 10mL each)

3) All OE recipes in equal proportions (ditto)

I know the combinations and ratios are truly endless. I want to make these three and then blind taste to see which I like the best, and start tweaking from there.

What vats would you make if you had (or if you have!) all 10?

[jaycamm]

Reportedly, Yellow Label is a blend of all 10 and Bulliet a blend of the five high rye recipes. So could make barrel proof versions of those. Or maybe try to replicate some of the limited edition small batches.