Vosgar Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, fishnbowljoe said: Did you have help from some of the Indy crew Eric? Biba! Joe 6 hours ago, Old Dusty said: You know it! And you know them. For those of you who don't know these people, they're as nice and generous a group of guys and gals as you'll ever find! (I'd have said the same thing about the GBS bunch, but they've got Troyce and he kinda ruins everything ) Edited January 12, 2020 by Vosgar 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinjoe Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 37 minutes ago, Vosgar said: (I'd have said the same thing about the GBS bunch, but they've got Troyce and he kinda ruins everything ) He’s the Chairman. The rest of us are powerless to stop him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vosgar Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, smokinjoe said: He’s the Chairman. The rest of us are powerless to stop him... That problem can be "taken care of" in April. I'll pm you, Big Rich and Stu with some ideas. (My apologizes to those of you who haven't got a clue what or who I'm talking about. Come to Bardstown some year and get to know everyone!) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vosgar Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Last pour of this PS W12 to celebrate the Packers win tonight!!!! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRich Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 That problem can be "taken care of" in April. I'll pm you, Big Rich and Stu with some ideas. (My apologizes to those of you who haven't got a clue what or who I'm talking about. Come to Bardstown some year and get to know everyone!)I kind of wish I didn’t. [emoji3064]@smokinjoe - I’ll see if Matt can procure some of those “snacks” and we should be good to go[emoji6] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokeCal Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I emptied a standard bottle of Eagle Rare last night. I don't know, it didn't seem to hit the spot for me. Tasted over oaked to my taste buds. It is one of BT's cheaper offerings but I was pretty disappointed. ER wouldn't be the place BT puts barrels that for whatever reason get to oaky is it? Just slap a 10 year old statement on it and watch the demand climb through the roof for a overly woody bourbon that didn't make the cut for some of their much pricier and better limited releases? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fosmith Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 36 minutes ago, BrokeCal said: I emptied a standard bottle of Eagle Rare last night. I don't know, it didn't seem to hit the spot for me. Tasted over oaked to my taste buds. It is one of BT's cheaper offerings but I was pretty disappointed. ER wouldn't be the place BT puts barrels that for whatever reason get to oaky is it? Just slap a 10 year old statement on it and watch the demand climb through the roof for a overly woody bourbon that didn't make the cut for some of their much pricier and better limited releases? My understanding is that ER is not a batched product but pretty much a single barrel (there's some mixing when they start a new barrel so it can't be called SiB) and thus, variation in the flavor profile. I've had some that tasted "dirty" and some that were vanilla cherry cola bombs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richnimrod Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 34 minutes ago, BrokeCal said: I emptied a standard bottle of Eagle Rare last night. I don't know, it didn't seem to hit the spot for me. Tasted over oaked to my taste buds. It is one of BT's cheaper offerings but I was pretty disappointed. ER wouldn't be the place BT puts barrels that for whatever reason get to oaky is it? Just slap a 10 year old statement on it and watch the demand climb through the roof for a overly woody bourbon that didn't make the cut for some of their much pricier and better limited releases? Disclaimer; this is only my personal opinion..... I do not believe your theory is likely to be true, BC. When ER was a single barrel product, and so stated, it was a sought after bottle for good reason. The Price/Quality ratio for a 10-year old SB Bourbon was pretty close to unbeatable! Even after the SB designation was dropped (I'm told because of bottling line issues that allowed at least a bit of 'mingling' from one barrel to the next), many folx ran away from ER in the belief that it had been somehow 'downgraded'; but, without a commensurate lowering of the price. I believe no such thing. I DO believe that because it remains essentially a SB (without the claim) there exists a fair amount of possible variability from bottle to bottle purchased, especially, if purchases are done months apart and/or from different distribution areas. Further, I imagine with pressure on aged and aging stock that The Trace remains under for next 7+years, there may be fewer 10-year barrels from which the distillery can choose, possibly adding another layer of variability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokeCal Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Well that is good news! I'll just assume this particular bottle wasn't my favorite. I'm still pretty new to the game. I've had ER before at a friend's house and I've ordered it before at a restaurant and both times I enjoyed it much more than the bottle I picked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwperry Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Not sure why I pushed this to the back and overlooked it so long since opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbstout Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 On 1/13/2020 at 1:59 PM, Richnimrod said: Disclaimer; this is only my personal opinion..... I do not believe your theory is likely to be true, BC. When ER was a single barrel product, and so stated, it was a sought after bottle for good reason. The Price/Quality ratio for a 10-year old SB Bourbon was pretty close to unbeatable! Even after the SB designation was dropped (I'm told because of bottling line issues that allowed at least a bit of 'mingling' from one barrel to the next), many folx ran away from ER in the belief that it had been somehow 'downgraded'; but, without a commensurate lowering of the price. I believe no such thing. I DO believe that because it remains essentially a SB (without the claim) there exists a fair amount of possible variability from bottle to bottle purchased, especially, if purchases are done months apart and/or from different distribution areas. Further, I imagine with pressure on aged and aging stock that The Trace remains under for next 7+years, there may be fewer 10-year barrels from which the distillery can choose, possibly adding another layer of variability. I might have to agree with you on this Rich. A store by my house did a ER pick around 5 years ago that many people swoon over. Supposedly it was 14 year juice and picked by Harlan. Rumor has it there was a SBS with ER17 and the "10" year won. Those days are unfortunately over though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinjoe Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, Bbstout said: I might have to agree with you on this Rich. A store by my house did a ER pick around 5 years ago that many people swoon over. Supposedly it was 14 year juice and picked by Harlan. Rumor has it there was a SBS with ER17 and the "10" year won. Those days are unfortunately over though. I’ll add, that there have been numerous eye witness accounts of seeing BT Mashbill #2 barrels being used for ER10 bottles. ER10 from Frankfort has historically been BT #1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Dusty Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, smokinjoe said: I’ll add, that there have been numerous eye witness accounts of seeing BT Mashbill #2 barrels being used for ER10 bottles. ER10 from Frankfort has historically been BT #1. And I can give an eyewitness account of BT #1 being used for Blanton’s. I was told (upon inquiry) that it is all by profile and their internal tasting panel. There is no more “bright line” between #1 and #2 in terms of single barrel selections. And my guess is that applies to the batched bottlings as well. But that’s just a guess. And (just my opinion here) the boom has stretched BT seemingly more than others and they are using what they have where they can to satisfy demand. Edited January 17, 2020 by Old Dusty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearmoon247 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 39 minutes ago, Old Dusty said: And I can give an eyewitness account of BT #1 being used for Blanton’s I'm not sure how that works, unless Buffalo Trace adds Mash #1 barrels to Warehouse H. One would think that they would maximize their possible stock for Blanton's with a fall-back of ETL, RHF, and Ancient Age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Dusty Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 30 minutes ago, clearmoon247 said: I'm not sure how that works, unless Buffalo Trace adds Mash #1 barrels to Warehouse H. One would think that they would maximize their possible stock for Blanton's with a fall-back of ETL, RHF, and Ancient Age. You might think. And I did not ask what warehouse they came from. But I can tell you that these were barely 6 yr old Mash #1 barrels (four of them) rolled out for a Blanton’s pick by a retailer. And he couldn’t have cared less because he sold out the whole barrel in two days at $75 a pop. It’s a crazy world right now. And it’s safe to assume that not much that we came to take for granted is still status quo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mross Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Never thought I would need support for an empty. After all it was a blast getting there, but this one hurts. Not so much that it's gone but does not seem replaceable. I got it at reasonable price. Now IF you can find it, it's a 100 or more. While it's good, not sure if it's that good. What happened. Talk to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clueby Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 16 hours ago, Old Dusty said: You might think. And I did not ask what warehouse they came from. But I can tell you that these were barely 6 yr old Mash #1 barrels (four of them) rolled out for a Blanton’s pick by a retailer. And he couldn’t have cared less because he sold out the whole barrel in two days at $75 a pop. It’s a crazy world right now. And it’s safe to assume that not much that we came to take for granted is still status quo. To be Blanton's (even a store pick) it would still have to come from H, correct? I didn't think there was any MB1 in H. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0895 Posted January 18, 2020 Author Share Posted January 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Clueby said: To be Blanton's (even a store pick) it would still have to come from H, correct? I didn't think there was any MB1 in H. Weird. Since they(bottling line workers) usually write “H” on the Blanton’s label by hand, I would assume they are being accurate.... but that’s just an assumption. I’ve never personally seen any other letter on a Blanton’s label check page 2, where it lists warehouses. Dont know if this means they put some barrels of mb2 into 2018 & 2019 GTS, or there’s mb1 in warehouse H, or if these letters are even gospel, but it’s interesting to note it. I only looked back as far as ‘17, and the 2017 letter doesn’t list warehouse H. 2018: https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/sites/default/files/letters/2018 George T. Stagg.pdf 2019: https://www.buffalotracedistillery.com/sites/default/files/letters/2019 George T Stagg.pdf Edited January 18, 2020 by 0895 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BourbonTexan Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 RIP RHF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMartin42 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Put a Pikesville to rest. It’s not a cheap rye, but it won’t be my last bottle of it I’m sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis Reed Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Batch #9. She will be missed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fosmith Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 11 hours ago, Curtis Reed said: Batch #9. She will be missed If you haven't already, try batch 12. It's superb! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double C's Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 dead buffalo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0895 Posted January 20, 2020 Author Share Posted January 20, 2020 15 hours ago, Curtis Reed said: Batch #9. She will be missed 3 hours ago, fosmith said: If you haven't already, try batch 12. It's superb! 13 is darn good as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radioyada Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Hump day bottle kill. Very sad to see this one go, but I am working on making room for all the newly opened bottles from a holiday tasting with the family. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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