What did you pass up today? Autumn '12

[AaronWF]

Came across a few bottles of Hirsch Selection 20 year old American Whiskey. At $81.99 each I left them all on the shelf.

I was offered a bottle of 28 year old Hirsch Selection Bourbon for $300. It had just been returned (I did not know liquor stores take returns...). The clerk tried to sell it based on the fact that Pappy 23 goes for $250, so for only $50 more I was getting another 5 years in wood. I know I tasted some very aged Hirsch Selection bourbon a few years ago that was some of the blandest, most overly-wooded whiskey I've ever had; not sure if it was from this bottling, but I told the clerk that if he was going to drink it he should watch out for splinters on his tongue.

[Brisko]

Nice. Even with the 90 proofers, we could probably make an educated guess based on the known entry proof and the percentage of loss, though I suppose we can't assume that a given rate of loss would equal a constant rise in proof... yet again, more math than I'm willing to attempt.

[jersey12]

Here's what I'm getting:

2012 Stagg: 10,962 bottles

2012 WLW: 4266 bottles

2012 Handy: 6581 bottles

I didn't do the other two because they're not barrel proof and we don't know what the proof was before dilution.

I was looking into the bottle calculations and came up with some different results. Please correct me if there's something I'm doing incorrectly.

2012 Stagg: 14,481 bottles ((118 barrels x 53 gallons)x (1-0.5369 for evaporation loss) x 5 for # of bottles per gallon

2012 WLW: 5,634 bottles. 0.566 for evaporation

2012 Handy: 8,689 bottles. 0.3023 for evaporation

[HighInTheMtns]

750 ml is not a fifth of a gallon. It's close, but over that many gallons it makes a difference.

[jersey12]

750 ml is not a fifth of a gallon. It's close, but over that many gallons it makes a difference.

You're correct. Revised calcs below using .198129 for 750ml expressed in gallons.

Stagg: 14,617

WLW: 5,688

Handy: 8,771

Maybe I'll give the 90 providers a go this weekend if anybody cares.

[T Comp]

Here's what I'm getting:

2012 Stagg: 10,962 bottles

2012 WLW: 4266 bottles

2012 Handy: 6581 bottles

I didn't do the other two because they're not barrel proof and we don't know what the proof was before dilution.

You're correct. Revised calcs below using .198129 for 750ml expressed in gallons.

Stagg: 14,617

WLW: 5,688

Handy: 8,771

Maybe I'll give the 90 providers a go this weekend if anybody cares.

I'm impressed Gentleman. It was difficult enough for me to export the barrel numbers over correctly from the fact sheets :grin:. So who's more correct and based on evaporation loss is there much of any bottle difference between 2012 and 2011?

[ChainWhip]

Passed up a PHC 6 batch 2 today

[unclebunk]

Jefferson's Straight Rye Whiskey had to be left behind when I went on my latest whiskey run yesterday. Maybe next time.

[luther.r]

You're correct. Revised calcs below using .198129 for 750ml expressed in gallons.

Stagg: 14,617

WLW: 5,688

Handy: 8,771

Ah, I forgot to convert to 750ml, so my figures are in liters. Yours are correct!

[z327]

Left 4 bottles of THR in Baltimore on sale for $59 made it hard to do but luggage was near the legal limit. Bought 3 plus a GTS. Shipped the GTS and carried the Rye's in my luggage.

[clingman71]

Passed up 4R SB '11 LE & 100th, couldn't find SB '12 LE. Passed up 1993 BTEC rediscovered, have yet to see "large barrels". The 1993s are a possibility as I really liked the 1991.

[c2walker]

Passed up 4R SB '11 LE & 100th, couldn't find SB '12 LE. Passed up 1993 BTEC rediscovered, have yet to see "large barrels". The 1993s are a possibility as I really liked the 1991.

FWIW I prefer the 1993 to the 1991 rediscovered.

[theglobalguy]

THH 2012 @$80 and PHC 2012 @$89 at a really small shop. Was frankly stunned they had either. Stopped in on a whim.

[portwood]

Mastersons 10yo straight rye.

No way I'm paying $110 for a bottle that would sell for <$50 if it were packaged where the whisky was distilled and aged - in CANADA.

[WAINWRIGHT]

I would definitely second this,of the'89,'91 and '93 releases of the BTEC.The '89 being the worst and the '93 being the best.

[atfree]

A WT Tradition at $100, and a couple of Elijah Craig 20yr bottles for $120.

[savagehenry]

PVW 23 - $550

VWFRR - $360

ORVW 10/107 - $170

V23 Rye - $110

[c2walker]

PVW 23 - $550

VWFRR - $360

ORVW 10/107 - $170

V23 Rye - $110

Not an awful price on the V23.

[savagehenry]

Not an awful price on the V23.

I thought it was reasonable. I will be returning without the wife. I walked out of there with a WTRR 10 from 2006 so I wasn't going to push my luck. The V23 has been sitting there for a few years so I'm going to bet it will be safe until Monday.

[oke&coke]

I thought it was reasonable. I will be returning without the wife. I walked out of there with a WTRR 10 from 2006 so I wasn't going to push my luck. The V23 has been sitting there for a few years so I'm going to bet it will be safe until Monday.

I would believe so. I saw two bottles sit on the shelf for about a month here at $65 before I snagged them.

[Phil T]

Not an awful price on the V23.

[savagehenry]

Yea, but the other 3 are laughable

[Tico]

Seriously. The guy with the VWFRR & the ORVW 10 said he had just sold a PVW 20 for $600. Only in Del Mar. I'm thinking of going in there with my bottle of PVW 20 or 23 and seeing if he'd trade the VWFRR & ORVW 10 for one of my PVW's.

[michaelturtle1]

Passed on full shelves of BTAC and another PHC Cognac, which has shown up now in 2 local stores

[portwood]

I don't get it :confused:

Some people come on here and claim to be passing full shelves of BTAC, at the same time, I keep hearing that BTAC bottles are impossible to get - strict allocations, stores get one bottle of each, waiting lists hundreds deep, yada yada yada.

At the risk of :deadhorse: can someone help a newb understand the BTAC hype?